Guild Wars 2

kRiza krimos.1637:

Revolution.6301:

Dradiin.8935:

It is a choice to decide to do the dailies, no one is forcing you or anyone else to complete them.

Just like it is a choice to acquire Legendary weapon skins.

I do not feel forced into doing any of these things, if i want the reward for there completion then i will work on completing it.

Oh stop it around with ‘its a choice’ arguments. They are old and overused and a logical fallacy since a game should not be considered a chore now should it?. This game should be fun not a chore, don’t forget the OP main point.

Man once said: “If you can eat all the biscuits, where’s the fun in biscuits?” That man was an idiot. But he was right. Perhaps their parrents are letting them play too much.

Daily IS by choice. Saying anything otherwise would be denying reality.

The only reason why you consider daily a chore is because it’s giving a reward to doing things you don’t want to do. Never did you stop and think maybe fun is subjective. Or maybe daily aren’t meant to be fun “For everyone”.

And why should they be?

All i ever do is pvp all day. Do I complain about not having enough pvp related daily? No. Because I understand what dailies are meant to do : Anytime I decide I’m too bored to pvp anymore the dailies are there, giving ideas and rewards as to what to do.

Do I have to do them? No.
Do I do them all? No. I hate pve that much.
Do I find them chores? No.

Why not? Because I didn’t do them – instead I just do what I want and play how I like, and I’m never ever punished for it. Once or twice I finished a few mob killing ones. I did them when I’m bored of pvping and I’m happy to say they provided adequate distraction.

As for saying everything in a game is supposed to be fun, that’s pure utopia. name a game that is 100% fun, and I can guarantee you there will be someone who doesn’t like it.

showatt.9413:

Seera.5916:

ginzo.8792:

Dradiin.8935:

It is a choice to decide to do the dailies, no one is forcing you or anyone else to complete them.

Just like it is a choice to acquire Legendary weapon skins.

I do not feel forced into doing any of these things, if i want the reward for there completion then i will work on completing it.

this sort of response is puerile tbh. EVERYONE knows they can choose not to do any given part of the game. it doesnt need repeating and offers nothing to a discussion.
I can choose to not go to my work i can choose to not even play the game etc etc.

now do you think a succesful business model is based on the ethos that " ach if they dont like it they can go do something else" ?
Stuff is added to the game to be fun and DESIRABLE to take part in , and if for any reason people feel its UNDESIRABLE for them to take part then perhaps there,s a problem.
folk enjoy daily rewards they just arn’t so keen for time to be taken up by doing stuff they dont enjoy to get it.
after all if i do 40 events in a day then havent i earned my daily as much as the guy who slavishly runs all over the map doing what the boss man says ticking off random tasks to get his?

We’ll eventually get the ability to say I’ll do X of Y things where Y is a higher number than X. So those that don’t want to do dungeons or do WvW can still get the monthly.

Then it will become more like leveling up. Y things will gain you levels. You can choose to omit some, but if you omit too many, you won’t achieve what you want to achieve (be it the daily, monthly, or speed of leveling up).

But right now we have to suck it up and hope ANet releases that sooner rather than later.

There’s this game called skyrim that everyone tells me it’s ‘sand-box’ and I can play it the way I want to play.

So I decided I want to kill everyone in game only to find out that I couldn’t because – you’re not gonna believe this – some npc are vital to some stupid quest I have zero care about.

Ok so killing everyone in game is out of the window. Boo.

I decided I’m gonna try to ally Alduin the big bad dragon and destroy the world but guess what? I can’t. Instead I have to travel to the top of this ridiculously tall mountains, listen to all these poor old people preach about the way of some voice, Get this scroll from some place with names I can’t pronounce, learn some trick from some old fart in another century and travel to some norn mythical land – which is kinda strange because I’m a Khajit – and help some dead norn ghost to kill Alduin. Non negotiable.

Ok so I can’t do what I want. Maybe I’ll just do some dailies… oh wait there is none. MFFFFFFFFFFFFF

That’s when it hit me : Skyrim was pretty sad. It’s dictating me, telling me ‘oh no you can only play like this, you can’t help alduin, you can’t kill children and if you touch any of the chicken I will break you’, forcing me to play the way the devs intended me to play. which is wandering in a big block of ice helping a bunch of people whose name i forget as soon as I pass them by.

So I thought sod it I’m gonna go try minecraft.
But guess what? I now have to walk around in a giant field of nothing wasting an entire days so I can build a small shack with doors. Why can’t I just spawn a house, add some traps and wait for zombies to come?

The world sure is full of dictators.

PS. in case if you’re not getting the hint : Daily is not the play. Killing monsters, crafting stuff, pvping and dungeons IS the play. They just add daily so you feel better about doing them.

I don’t understand why you play video games.

showatt.9413:

kRiza krimos.1637:

Revolution.6301:

Dradiin.8935:

It is a choice to decide to do the dailies, no one is forcing you or anyone else to complete them.

Just like it is a choice to acquire Legendary weapon skins.

I do not feel forced into doing any of these things, if i want the reward for there completion then i will work on completing it.

Oh stop it around with ‘its a choice’ arguments. They are old and overused and a logical fallacy since a game should not be considered a chore now should it?. This game should be fun not a chore, don’t forget the OP main point.

Man once said: “If you can eat all the biscuits, where’s the fun in biscuits?” That man was an idiot. But he was right. Perhaps their parrents are letting them play too much.

Daily IS by choice. Saying anything otherwise would be denying reality.

The only reason why you consider daily a chore is because it’s giving a reward to doing things you don’t want to do. Never did you stop and think maybe fun is subjective. Or maybe daily aren’t meant to be fun “For everyone”.

And why should they be?

All i ever do is pvp all day. Do I complain about not having enough pvp related daily? No. Because I understand what dailies are meant to do : Anytime I decide I’m too bored to pvp anymore the dailies are there, giving ideas and rewards as to what to do.

Do I have to do them? No.
Do I do them all? No. I hate pve that much.
Do I find them chores? No.

Why not? Because I didn’t do them – instead I just do what I want and play how I like, and I’m never ever punished for it. Once or twice I finished a few mob killing ones. I did them when I’m bored of pvping and I’m happy to say they provided adequate distraction.

As for saying everything in a game is supposed to be fun, that’s pure utopia. name a game that is 100% fun, and I can guarantee you there will be someone who doesn’t like it.

i dissagree EVERYthing in game should be fun. sure there are parts of games i fine less fun that others , but if i find i’m doing the same non-fun things everyday i’m onto another game rapid. Why is it in MMO’s people like yourself feel its acceptable , even normal to have to spen time doing non fun things. I think you need to re-examine why you play games.
I do know that the more spare time you have the less you value it, i used to play severe amounts of vanilla wow , raiding through BWL and MC but that was before marriage and kids , i would do things less fun in games cos i had time to kill in abundance. nowadays I value my spare time much more and feel much less enclined to do anything that isnt 100% fun.

as soon as a game stops being fun its no longer a game , its then a chore or habit.