do you want PvP with PvE gear?
PvP isn’t balanced around 1v1. WvW is as close as we’re prob going to get to “PvPing with PvE gear” like you want.
Now maybe a little fun event like the crab toss but for pvp? Yeah that’s a possibility. But actual PvP with PvE gear? I doubt it honestly
PvP isn’t balanced around 1v1. WvW is as close as we’re prob going to get to “PvPing with PvE gear” like you want.
Now maybe a little fun event like the crab toss but for pvp? Yeah that’s a possibility. But actual PvP with PvE gear? I doubt it honestly
ya i know its not balanced around 1v1 but people still want it anyway.
they still do it unofficially in wvw and spvp.
PvP isn’t balanced around 1v1. WvW is as close as we’re prob going to get to “PvPing with PvE gear” like you want.
Now maybe a little fun event like the crab toss but for pvp? Yeah that’s a possibility. But actual PvP with PvE gear? I doubt it honestly
ya i know its not balanced around 1v1 but people still want it anyway.
they still do it unofficially in wvw and spvp.
Not to sound rude but you should join those people in wvw and spvp if you support them.
Also.. I want free legendary weapons. I’m sure many people want free legendary weapons. Doesn’t mean we’re going to get free legendary weapons.
All I want is my gears skins in xPvP. I hate it how we are supposed to get a whole new set of armor skins. It should be like in GW1, your PvE gear is your PvP gear.
I know there are the stats and stuff, but couldn’t they just disappear, when we enter the Mist. Then everyone would be equal in gear. Or just automatically transmute your PvP skins to PvE skins when you enter the Mist. I know this might be hard to put in the game, but I really like my PvE gear and I would like to look good in xPvP too.
[TLA] Desolation (EU)
I have suggested it before: Hybrid WvW/PvP maps. Smaller maps where you can skirmish over objectives beside the “main” borderlands and EB.
As a simple example: A map with a central fortified keep. No not SM, more like border keep size and 2-3 camps. Each server has a player limit of say 30 but there are also more and stronger NPCs than in the usual WvW keep. The server that hold the keep get +10 points in WvW (supply camps dont count in this map).
Not to sound rude but you should join those people in wvw and spvp if you support them.
Also.. I want free legendary weapons. I’m sure many people want free legendary weapons. Doesn’t mean we’re going to get free legendary weapons.
i dun support them so i wun be joining them.
well, if u want free legendary then u need to ask anet for them.
i dun wan free legendary weaposn though.
by the way, do you want PvP with PvE gear?
I have suggested it before: Hybrid WvW/PvP maps. Smaller maps where you can skirmish over objectives beside the “main” borderlands and EB.
As a simple example: A map with a central fortified keep. No not SM, more like border keep size and 2-3 camps. Each server has a player limit of say 30 but there are also more and stronger NPCs than in the usual WvW keep. The server that hold the keep get +10 points in WvW (supply camps dont count in this map).
maybe we should have some new smaller WvW battlegrounds map?
seems like not much feedback for this.
perhaps the general discussion forum is full of PvE people that does not PvP? O_O
where else should i post this kind of question?
the WvW forum?
PvP isn’t balanced around 1v1. WvW is as close as we’re prob going to get to “PvPing with PvE gear” like you want.
Now maybe a little fun event like the crab toss but for pvp? Yeah that’s a possibility. But actual PvP with PvE gear? I doubt it honestly
ya i know its not balanced around 1v1 but people still want it anyway.
they still do it unofficially in wvw and spvp.
Well if A.Net made it official they would be held responsible for balance issues. You can’t balance professions around 1vs1, sPvP and WvWvW at once.
Currently playing Heart of Thorns.
Well if A.Net made it official they would be held responsible for balance issues. You can’t balance professions around 1vs1, sPvP and WvWvW at once.
what if, they would not need to be held responsible for balance issues?
it would be a “take it as it is” basics.
Well if A.Net made it official they would be held responsible for balance issues. You can’t balance professions around 1vs1, sPvP and WvWvW at once.
what if, they would not need to be held responsible for balance issues?
it would be a “take it as it is” basics.
This would never work.
MMORPGS tend to have a really awful community.
Currently playing Heart of Thorns.
no. actually this is why i bought this game. it was the same in gw1. if it changes im not doing pvp. why would you want this?
I would be happy with just having the area in Black Citadel, you know the large arena, setup so when you go in there everyone counts as targetable enemies, but you can still chat normally. Maybe also set it so that armor is not destroyed on defeat in there.
Don’t worry about balance. So no instances or system to balance side, it’s up to players to do whatever they want in there. If they want to duel they just call out to people they are having a duel. etc.
I’ve had some great times in E.B. Jumping puzzle just having a laugh with the other servers, but it’s really hard to make interest known using a few basic emotes.
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no. actually this is why i bought this game. it was the same in gw1. if it changes im not doing pvp. why would you want this?
nothing would be changed.
it would be optional.
well, i’m asking people if they want something like this.
people are already pvp-ing in PvE armor inside WvW.
i was wondering if the people who browse the official gw2 forums would want something similar outside of WvW.
I do agree to some extent, that it is lame being forced to start out with ugly gear. However, having the chance to transfer your PvE gear to PvP will never happen. Why? Simply because how different the progression in PvP and PvE are.
Simply put: While in PvE grinding for, say, tier 3 cultural armor requires minimal effort of acquiring a hundred-ish gold, which can be achieved in a matter of days. On the other hand, to acquire the same gear in PvP you have to hit rank 80 in the PvP standards, meaning the same as scoring around 14,973,500 points in PvP, which is the equivalent of years of dedicated playing. The difference in the effort is vast, and while it would be possible to say, ‘tone down’ the PvP requirements a bit, I don’t see that ever happening simply because of the massive amount of tinkering and brain storming it would take on the devs’ part.
While I don’t see anet ever changing the gear system in actual PvP, I do think they should just let you keep your visual gear in Keg Brawl, Crab Toss and the like.
Thousand Lakes Alliance [TLA], Desolation
4 Champion titles, solo/duoq Legend, best old LB rank 64.
I totally agree with you OP, specially with the MOBA type map where GvG would take place (with pve gear). I also miss team deathmatch pvp a lot, hope they implement it soon. A crab toss type arena seems a great way to make it happen in the pve realm.
Of course i would like that, one of the reasons i don’t pvp much is the fact that i can’t run exactly what i want.
Well if A.Net made it official they would be held responsible for balance issues. You can’t balance professions around 1vs1, sPvP and WvWvW at once.
what if, they would not need to be held responsible for balance issues?
it would be a “take it as it is” basics.
This would never work.
MMORPGS tend to have a really awful community.
I’m going to have to agree here.
I have no issue with 1v1 arenas. I have no issues with people opting to use their pve gear instead of pvp gear in that arena.
However, because the game isn’t balanced around 1v1, you’re going to quickly see some class inequities, which are going to make the players kitten, and loudly at that.
“Why can’t x class beat y class? y class is over powered, nerf it!”
At which point 1 of 2 things is going to happen:
1) Anet is going to ignore it (because that’s not how they balance), and people are going to get POed.
OR
2) They are going to try to ‘adjust’ to make that player group happy and make everyone else POed. (and potentially throw things all out of whack)
They are kittened it they do, kittened it they don’t.
I’m going to have to agree here.
I have no issue with 1v1 arenas. I have no issues with people opting to use their pve gear instead of pvp gear in that arena.
However, because the game isn’t balanced around 1v1, you’re going to quickly see some class inequities, which are going to make the players kitten, and loudly at that.
“Why can’t x class beat y class? y class is over powered, nerf it!”
At which point 1 of 2 things is going to happen:
1) Anet is going to ignore it (because that’s not how they balance), and people are going to get POed.
OR
2) They are going to try to ‘adjust’ to make that player group happy and make everyone else POed. (and potentially throw things all out of whack)They are kittened it they do, kittened it they don’t.
well, i see that no harm will come from the 1) option.
Of course i would like that, one of the reasons i don’t pvp much is the fact that i can’t run exactly what i want.
Yeah agreed.
Unless they increase the amulet/jewel combinations in pvp, I’d be interested in this too.
If it’s more pvp style maps, then perhaps as one poster said no broken armour?
Unless they increase the amulet/jewel combinations in pvp, I’d be interested in this too.
If it’s more pvp style maps, then perhaps as one poster said no broken armour?
they could make it such that 5 vs 5 or 8 vs 8 casual non competitive PvP but using our PvE stats right?
and “balance” complaints will be disregarded generally since everyone is using PvE gear which means not everyone will be in “top gear” quality gear.
If it’s more pvp style maps, then perhaps as one poster said no broken armour?
I think it was me. I was in ta E.B. Jumping puzzle a couple of days back and we had about 5-8 from each server at the start, and we were having great fun just running in, messing around etc.. but them after some time half my armors broke and I have to go back to LA, repair, run all the way back to tkitten Jumping puzzle to just join in again.
So yeah, an small arena where everyone is counts as an enemy (possibly, unless they are in a party together), with no repair bill.. Please.
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balance alone would be a nightmare! I wouldn’t say no to this, but with the things on the dev’s plate, it doesn’t seem feasible any time soon.
balance alone would be a nightmare!
I wouldn’t say no to this, but with the things on the dev’s plate, it doesn’t seem feasible any time soon.
It’s not at all about balance though. A free for all with no rules is just that, a free for all.
What it does allow is for a mate to go, “I have real problem with X class in WvW/PvP, you play that kind of build, want to pop to the arena and let me try some ideas out.”
Or a guild to go, “lets all go to a the Arena and play circle of treachery” (last man standing, normally very funny as what generally happens is the weak players team up on the strongest player, but you are never sure when they are going to stab their “compatriots” in the back.)
In other words, it allows the community to run fun events, without many restrictions.
balance alone would be a nightmare!
I wouldn’t say no to this, but with the things on the dev’s plate, it doesn’t seem feasible any time soon.
It’s not at all about balance though. A free for all with no rules is just that, a free for all.
What it does allow is for a mate to go, “I have real problem with X class in WvW/PvP, you play that kind of build, want to pop to the arena and let me try some ideas out.”
Or a guild to go, “lets all go to a the Arena and play circle of treachery” (last man standing, normally very funny as what generally happens is the weak players team up on the strongest player, but you are never sure when they are going to stab their “compatriots” in the back.)
In other words, it allows the community to run fun events, without many restrictions.
In that case, sign me up!
It’s not at all about balance though. A free for all with no rules is just that, a free for all.
What it does allow is for a mate to go, “I have real problem with X class in WvW/PvP, you play that kind of build, want to pop to the arena and let me try some ideas out.”
Or a guild to go, “lets all go to a the Arena and play circle of treachery” (last man standing, normally very funny as what generally happens is the weak players team up on the strongest player, but you are never sure when they are going to stab their “compatriots” in the back.)
In other words, it allows the community to run fun events, without many restrictions.
this would be nice.
also, make players read and sign some message stating that “no balance requests” will be entertained in the arena blah blah blah etc.
It’s not at all about balance though. A free for all with no rules is just that, a free for all.
What it does allow is for a mate to go, “I have real problem with X class in WvW/PvP, you play that kind of build, want to pop to the arena and let me try some ideas out.”
Or a guild to go, “lets all go to a the Arena and play circle of treachery” (last man standing, normally very funny as what generally happens is the weak players team up on the strongest player, but you are never sure when they are going to stab their “compatriots” in the back.)
In other words, it allows the community to run fun events, without many restrictions.
this would be nice.
also, make players read and sign some message stating that “no balance requests” will be entertained in the arena blah blah blah etc.
That would require them to read and understand said message. How many people do you think actually read the terms of service for example? Same issue….
That would require them to read and understand said message. How many people do you think actually read the terms of service for example? Same issue….
Isn’t this easy? They Just make a forum for the Arena, and then ignore it.
That would require them to read and understand said message. How many people do you think actually read the terms of service for example? Same issue….
Isn’t this easy? They Just make a forum for the Arena, and then ignore it.
Oh gods….I can already hear the whining…..
-goes to find some Aleve-
There should be Borderlands-style, consequence-free dueling anywhere in the open world (not cities). BAM.
There should be Borderlands-style, consequence-free dueling anywhere in the open world (not cities). BAM.
There’s a whole thread on open world dueling…. this doesn’t belong here.
Sounds pretty cool ^^ I really hope when GvG is introduced it uses the PvE gear style system like WvW.
in the original guild wars 1, people can PvP together with PvP only people using their PvE gear, not sure why this is changed in GW2 …
in the original guild wars 1, people can PvP together with PvP only people using their PvE gear, not sure why this is changed in GW2 …
They wanted a more distinct and clear cut separation of structured pvp and pve.