Guild Wars 2

Dear community and possibly devs

I was wondering about drop rates and what influences them.
I’ve been reading about a certain few people getting precursor drops about 2 every month.
This isent that special if it occured once but the same people get it droped on that rate continiously.
To bad but thats not someone being lucky on RNG.

So what gives my account my personal drop rate?

And don’t bullkitten here that its the same for everyone!

Ow yeah! No precursor here while im a daily player

I’ve played GW2 since headstart and only once have I seen a precursor drop for someone in my group. Don’t pin your hopes on something that’s as likely to happen as winning the lottery.

I JUST got a Dusk from forge. That’s my first pre since release.

Oh good, it’s this thread again. This time, for sure, the matter will finally be resolved for all.

No. Wait. That other thing. The one with the litany of anecdotes, misinformation and bullkitten.

dace.8019:

Oh good, it’s this thread again. This time, for sure, the matter will finally be resolved for all.

No. Wait. That other thing. The one with the litany of anecdotes, misinformation and bullkitten.

Whatbis actually your problem? I’m not asking to solve anything cause it probably isen’t a bug but something intended i just wonder how it works and hope to get clarification! Is that wrong of me? And i play guildwars for a year now ankitten ew to the forums so haven’t seen this one :o why was it wrong to ask?

dace.8019:

Oh good, it’s this thread again. This time, for sure, the matter will finally be resolved for all.

No. Wait. That other thing. The one with the litany of anecdotes, misinformation and bullkitten.

To be fair though “If it’s posted on the internet it’s 100% true fact” ~ Thomas Edison

MrTree.4890:

So what gives my account my personal drop rate?

And don’t bullkitten here that its the same for everyone!

That’s your problem right there.

BunjiKugashira.9754:

I’ve played GW2 since headstart and only once have I seen a precursor drop for someone in my group. Don’t pin your hopes on something that’s as likely to happen as winning the lottery.

Yeah i understand it beeing rare and I’m not saying I’m not misinformed about the precursor.
But i play this game with a close friend of mine and looking to the overal gold gain from drops it should be the somewhat the same for us 2 or my friend should be ahead considering he has more ap playtime and Magic Find.
I hatr to inform you i’m about a 500g ahead from drops and boxes.
This is not consistent with what RNG means statisticly. Or the deviation is huge which would be a great coincidence not?

There are no personal drop rates. People who get precursors every two months are people who play the forge heavily every day. It’s not a mystery. They invest time and money into playing the forge and they get rewarded, eventually. I don’t and I don’t get rewarded that way.

echo.2053:

dace.8019:

Oh good, it’s this thread again. This time, for sure, the matter will finally be resolved for all.

No. Wait. That other thing. The one with the litany of anecdotes, misinformation and bullkitten.

To be fair though “If it’s posted on the internet it’s 100% true fact” ~ Thomas Edison

Read my previous reply to a other guy and you know i’m aware that the information about precursors could be wrong

Vayne.8563:

There are no personal drop rates. People who get precursors every two months are people who play the forge heavily every day. It’s not a mystery. They invest time and money into playing the forge and they get rewarded, eventually. I don’t and I don’t get rewarded that way.

Could understand that but then again how do you explain the diffzrence between me and my friend? Ps look a few posts back for that info ????

dace.8019:

MrTree.4890:

So what gives my account my personal drop rate?

And don’t bullkitten here that its the same for everyone!

That’s your problem right there.

Could you explain it to me then? :p
Cause for me it isn’t that clear

MrTree.4890:

This is not consistent with what RNG means statisticly. Or the deviation is huge which would be a great coincidence not?

Did you and your friend:

• Play the exact same content, for the same amount of time and perform similarly within the context of that content
• Spend the same amount of gold and materials on crafting, purchases, build, etc.
• Track all of your loot for comparison from account creation to now

No. You didn’t do any of this. So any deviation in your relative wealth is down to what you’ve played, how you’ve played and what your expenses & purchases have been. You can’t derive any kind of useful data on the RNG system by contrasting your account wealth with an account that doesn’t reflect your own.

MrTree.4890:

Cause for me it isn’t that clear

You don’t want to be told that it’s “the same for everyone” but the best data I’ve seen confirms that it is, and ArenaNet say that it is this way too. Unless you’ve done a lot of testing, you can’t say it isn’t. Anecdotes or ad hoc comparisons of dissimilar accounts is not evidence.

RNG doesn’t mean “everyone will get the same loot drops just at different times when they play.” It means each and every loot drop is randomly generated, there will be a bell curve, and some people will be outliers at either end. By random chance your friend has gotten better drops than you have.

I’ve played since headstart and in all that time had two guildies get precursor drops (other than dedicated Forge use); one was Dusk from the original karka invasion chest when it felt like maybe a third of all players got pre’s, the other was the mace precursor off a trash spider in AC. I myself have not gotten any, though I have very rarely gotten valuable exotics and I was lucky enough to get all 3 carapace coat boxes in 4 VW fights. (Sorry about the anecdote there, dace ).

Other people get precursors off mobs on a relatively regular basis. It certainly can feel like they have a “blessed” account, and I suppose software can’t be truly random, but really as far as I can tell it’s just statistical variation. The best way not to let it bother you is to put aside any envy and just be glad for your friend’s good luck.

@Donari: Wait, a spider in AC? The guy I had in my group who got a precursor also got his from a spider in AC. Coincidence? I’m off farming spiders…

Given how very many times my guildies have run AC (we have a few peeps who just loooove dungeons) and only one pre drop in 3 years …. well, maybe you’ll complete your AC armor and weapon collection during your quixotic attempt?

You could farm thieves in WvW. They drop Zap and Chaos Gun.

Having really kittenty RNG luck in this game, I’ve stopped bothering doing a lot of content. Just not worth wasting time on them.

Magic find will increase your chances of getting rarer items. Stack as much of this as you can afford and you will notice a significant increase in your loot drops.

Precursors however are one of the rarest drops in the game and if you want to just get one by a drop then it is entirely RNG. You can however forge them very reliably.

Things that effect your drops

Magic find….account, character, wvw, and guild bonuses

Foe Level…a level 80 foe has a better chance than a level 45 foe of the same rank

Foe Rank…a champion has a better chance than a veteran of the same level

Number of foes killed…..this is a given, the more foes killed the more chances you have

Non drops

Mystic Forge….level of items placed in forge…exotics have better chances than rares (there’s more to this but it’s pretty easy to figure out)

Silverwastes Chests…these are affected by magic find upon opening

Hot bags..ones denoted by notes on the items themselves are effected by magic find
Now the bit I get criticized for….

Not all accounts are the same….We don’t exactly know why, but we know this to be true due to evidence of certain bugs. Some accounts have been affected by bugs that effect drops while others remain unaffected. An example of this would be the wvw bonus bug in the 1st year of the game wher4e some accounts were not receiving the added wvw bonuses while others were.

DR…diminishing returns…we don’t know exactly how this works, but play enough in an area and it’ll likely effect you.

Never had a precursor drop. This game’s RNG is soul crushing I advise not expecting anything ever. They added these meta grinds to move away from it since they can’t get it to work but I skip those too.

I had a torch drop from the forge from random rares and mace from dredge fractal boss before HoT. The point is don’t hope too much, both of them dropped when i completly given up on idea that precursor drops are real.

MrTree.4890:

…someone being lucky on RNG.
So what gives my account my personal drop rate…
And don’t bullkitten here that its the same for everyone…

I wanted to write something reasonable about RNG in general but then I realized it’s a waste of time :/

Rally the troops! We march on the capital!

*Fans flames, gets an infraction*

Harny.6012:

MrTree.4890:

…someone being lucky on RNG.
So what gives my account my personal drop rate…
And don’t bullkitten here that its the same for everyone…

I wanted to write something reasonable about RNG in general but then I realized it’s a waste of time :/

I wish you would cause my OP was indeed a bit rude sorry for that

but then this guy came around:

Essence Snow.3194:

Things that effect your drops

Magic find….account, character, wvw, and guild bonuses

Foe Level…a level 80 foe has a better chance than a level 45 foe of the same rank

Foe Rank…a champion has a better chance than a veteran of the same level

Number of foes killed…..this is a given, the more foes killed the more chances you have

Non drops

Mystic Forge….level of items placed in forge…exotics have better chances than rares (there’s more to this but it’s pretty easy to figure out)

Silverwastes Chests…these are affected by magic find upon opening

Hot bags..ones denoted by notes on the items themselves are effected by magic find
Now the bit I get criticized for….

Not all accounts are the same….We don’t exactly know why, but we know this to be true due to evidence of certain bugs. Some accounts have been affected by bugs that effect drops while others remain unaffected. An example of this would be the wvw bonus bug in the 1st year of the game wher4e some accounts were not receiving the added wvw bonuses while others were.

DR…diminishing returns…we don’t know exactly how this works, but play enough in an area and it’ll likely effect you.

Thank you Essence you’ve cleared up a lot! this is a textbook example of a satisfying answer. and explains the deviation

You know. I’d rather by a precursor from the TP than what Arena net have implemented to ‘work’ towards legendaries.

The amount needed for the new legendaries is just disheartening.

I’m not sure how much you play but when I asked people this question, most of them didn’t get precursor from drop. Those are people who average 30-40 hours a week minimum.

I think most of the precursor probably come from the forge.

Nausicca.6038:

You could farm thieves in WvW. They drop Zap and Chaos Gun.

Best post of 2016.