Guild Wars 2

one thing i really want is being able to see the hair from underneath the helmet, there are plenty of long haired characters in the game yet no one can really tell.
for instance, i have a female norn with braided hair, i would love to see them even when i have my helmet on.
i understand that this isn’t possible with every single hair style so i think Anet needs to find a compromise for them, hair already attached on the helmet when toggled on.

in case you want an idea, here are some pictures:
http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/assets/159003/valkyries.jpg
http://wallpaper.pickywallpapers.com/1440x900/valkyrie.jpg
http://www.deanhsieh.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Valkyrie-large.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OWAbU21_9nc/T5WLxC2Y37I/AAAAAAAACVg/Y4pkn7vjx6U/s1600/viking_warrior_by_peterhurman-d4uazhk.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57293/1339833-vwarrior2gs.jpg
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/135/3/0/thor___mark_h__roberts_colors_by_spiderguile-d3gdyy1.jpg

thoughts?

Yeah. going bald when wearing a hat or helmet bothers me to no end. I think they should just add a default hair style under the hats/helms. As it is now, I’m just not wearing any hat/helmet that hides hair at all (with the exception of Asura light T3), which is a shame because some (looking at you top hat) are really cool.

Don’t like it either. For a game that’s got quite a lot to do with looks this is a pretty big dropped ball.

Common. Hats and helms are implemented as just a different kind of hair. Happened in City of Heroes as well. Looked really bad with the Santa Hat in that game because it shows the back and sides of your head as hair free. That’s likely the reason the Pirate’kitten here has a piece that drapes down around the side and back of your head to hide that fact.

Well I understand clipping issues, but ANet can at least look at the different hair helmet combination and see which have little to no clipping and allow them to both appear.

the reason why hair disappears is because it’s only big model, if hair is separated in two parts (upper and lower part) then helmets could be possible.

sorudo.9054:

the reason why hair disappears is because it’s only big model, if hair is separated in two parts (upper and lower part) then helmets could be possible.

Or just add a default hair to the hat model, less issues with trying to fit all the different kinds of hair under a hat or helmet.

Melanie.1240:

sorudo.9054:

the reason why hair disappears is because it’s only big model, if hair is separated in two parts (upper and lower part) then helmets could be possible.

Or just add a default hair to the hat model, less issues with trying to fit all the different kinds of hair under a hat or helmet.

which would screw up everything, while one has lose hair another has braided hair.
so in fact, my idea is simply superior, not just because of different hair styles but also because it saves time.
it’s faster to adjust the hair styles then every single helmet

sorudo.9054:

Melanie.1240:

sorudo.9054:

the reason why hair disappears is because it’s only big model, if hair is separated in two parts (upper and lower part) then helmets could be possible.

Or just add a default hair to the hat model, less issues with trying to fit all the different kinds of hair under a hat or helmet.

which would screw up everything, while one has lose hair another has braided hair.
so in fact, my idea is simply superior, not just because of different hair styles but also because it saves time.
it’s faster to adjust the hair styles then every single helmet

You’d be adjusting every single hairstyle for every single helmet. Dont forget, there are very little non-clipping helmets, if any at all, for heavy armor. Even moreso for Sylvari when you consider the fact they CANT easily adjust their hair.

If your character has the afro or other crazier hairstyles like sylvari tree branches, they’d clip insanely with helmets causing the helmet in some cases to be barely viewable.

The removal of hair was the alternative to allow the hairstyles people like in the first place.

Agree! There should be a haired and one hairless option for helms. if u’r character has long hair one preset style for the helm is used with the haircolor u have for u’r character. If U’r character have a “high” kind of hair its likely to come out underneath the helm if its put on.

Sylvari branches could be tricky though….

Aidan Savage.2078:

sorudo.9054:

Melanie.1240:

sorudo.9054:

the reason why hair disappears is because it’s only big model, if hair is separated in two parts (upper and lower part) then helmets could be possible.

Or just add a default hair to the hat model, less issues with trying to fit all the different kinds of hair under a hat or helmet.

which would screw up everything, while one has lose hair another has braided hair.
so in fact, my idea is simply superior, not just because of different hair styles but also because it saves time.
it’s faster to adjust the hair styles then every single helmet

You’d be adjusting every single hairstyle for every single helmet.

actually no, you only have to adjust the hair styles and not the helmets.
it would actually be dumb to do that, it takes allot more time and is unnecessary.

look at the picture, that’s how it could be done.
as i said, all hair that are not long or at least not around the neck don’t count so something like an afro is not a hair style that counts in this system, so any clipping issues someone could talk about simply doesn’t exist.
this picture illustrates how only the hair style needs to be adjusted, any helmet that allows hair coming from underneath removes the red area and keeps the blue area.
so even while your character will technically be bald you can still enjoy the hair style you have.
the game can then keep track of the hair style like always and not make the whole character bald, the only thing that needs to be done on the helmets them self is that they need to allow hair.
i have looked around with all helmets and some simply doesn’t allow it, they can be seen as exceptions.

the only hair styles i think might have issues are styles with a high knot, the norn has a really long tail for instance.
Anet could make something that shows hair but loose like temporary replacing the style until the helmet is set on hidden, makes it easier of such characters.

This is a huge problem for me. Not only do helmets essentially make some of your characters bald, but that aside, some of the helmets are completely immersion breaking. Specifically on Charr and Sylvari characters.

Are we to believe snicker that Charr shave down their horns when putting on certain helmets snicker?

I agree not all haircuts would fit nicely with helms, like afro one, but I believe something could be done. Since they made helm skins replace hair, and it is too much of a job for them to make special skin for every haircut there is, how about we get some helms with their own, default hair. So, both helm and hair are part of the same model, and when you wear certain helm you get the hair that goes with it. Only thing that stays same is hair color? Could this be possible and would you like it?

P.S. Someone mentioned clipping?

Rod.6581:

I agree not all haircuts would fit nicely with helms, like afro one, but I believe something could be done. Since they made helm skins replace hair, and it is too much of a job for them to make special skin for every haircut there is, how about we get some helms with their own, default hair. So, both helm and hair are part of the same model, and when you wear certain helm you get the hair that goes with it. Only thing that stays same is hair color? Could this be possible and would you like it?

P.S. Someone mentioned clipping?

They did hat + default hair thing with one of the costume hats in GW1. The hair was always the same color but GW1 didn’t have dye channels. The most important thing is whether this is technically possible. If not then it is very unlikely to get a rewrite outside of a very big update. The sylvari cultural armor seems to do something similar for the glow so it is probably possible.

As for the clipping issue. While it would be awesome if you can mix and match everything with everything. This is not always possible in real life either. Not every pair of pant is going to work with every pair of boots. If it doesn’t clip with its own set then it would be good enough.

Personally, I don’t mind clipping too much. What bothers me is when someone is using it as excuse. Since there already is so much clipping in game.

Well (charr player).. when I use some facial masks – the hair goes away…… THAT is sad… Like the new outfit for example. Good thing I can hide the helm I usually go without.

Way too many games have this issue, and when I see a game that properly does helmet+hair I pretty much swoon. I’ll take the current clipping issues over the helmet + hair = bald.

What person wants to put a top hat on their female character to make them look like a chemo patient? I cant imagine how much work it would take to fix such an issue… Then again I am no expert on the subject.