Hello, so my question is in the title, I have an asura atm but i find it’s really lack luster with the tiny weapon size, problem is i have 100% map complete + multiple armor/weapon sets including t3 cultural, I want to know if race changes would be coming to GW2 as I’m sure alot of people feel as i do.
thanks
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Not going to happen. For about the billionth time now; Arena Net already confirmed that they will not be adding race changing to the game because of the impact that would have on your personal story and home instance.
Not going to happen. For about the billionth time now; Arena Net already confirmed that they will not be adding race changing to the game because of the impact that would have on your personal story and home instance.
This. But you do realize that regardless of the concrete information and denial of this service will still lead to about 100 or so threads of the same question / theme / request before the end of the month.
No they wont be due to how hard it would be to transfer all information into a new personal story. As well to transfer all the culture armor and everything is a hard undertaking and if they were to implement it i woudn’t be surpised if it would cost you $50 or more since server transfer is easy but costs $20.
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Personal story and home instances aren’t of much importance to many players. With an obvious warning that personal story and home instances would be reset/wiped/whatever, I’m sure many, many people would still buy gems for character race change.
Personal story and home instances aren’t of much importance to many players. With an obvious warning that personal story and home instances would be reset/wiped/whatever, I’m sure many, many people would still buy gems for character race change.
They wouldn’t allow them to be wiped cause the of the rewards that would be reopened do to it. Personal stories would have to be transferred over and corresponding spots would have to match with the other, and that would be a lot of work to make that work. As well culture armor wouldn’t work, and there would be hundreds of bugs introduced with many other issues. It’s not as simple as you think due to the nature of how coding works.
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I believe the official statement was to the effect they had no plans to provide such an option. It wasn’t a complete door slam, but it isn’t all that positive either.
Personal story and home instances aren’t of much importance to many players. With an obvious warning that personal story and home instances would be reset/wiped/whatever, I’m sure many, many people would still buy gems for character race change.
They wouldn’t allow them to be wiped cause the of the rewards that would be reopened do to it. Personal stories would have to be transferred over and corresponding spots would have to match with the other, and that would be a lot of work to make that work. As well culture armor wouldn’t work, and there would be hundreds of bugs introduced with many other issues. It’s not as simple as you think due to the nature of how coding works.
I said reset and wiped for a reason. By wiped, I mean removed or locked. Plenty of people wouldn’t care, and it’s cash for anet.
They’ve said no, but things can change. I wouldn’t count on it anytime soon, though. It certainly seems possible, it’d just take a lot of ‘turning X into Y’, a LOT of that.
I’d imagine something that’d make it easier is if you can only use the race change after, say, level 30, where the personal story stops being ‘personal’ :p
Another asurian who regrets choosing a race that can barely show off their gear. I ran arah the other day with an asurian wielding a juggernaut, named juggernaut. After beating Lupicus someone asked him when he was going to get the weapon to match his name. And he pointed out that he has been using the juggernaut the whole time. We all laughed because its hard to recognized scepter sized weapons. Feel sorry for you.
Heh I am actually in the opposite situation. I am glad I made my engineer an asura. The lack of medium armor options is less of an issue since pants aren’t as big of a deal on asura anyway. Some of the medium armor seems to look better on an asura than the other races too.
It also helps that the fish pistols are kinda huge.
As for the midget with the juggernaut, you didn’t notice the footsteps?
They’ve said no, but things can change. I wouldn’t count on it anytime soon, though. It certainly seems possible, it’d just take a lot of ‘turning X into Y’, a LOT of that.
I’d imagine something that’d make it easier is if you can only use the race change after, say, level 30, where the personal story stops being ‘personal’ :p
The biggest problem I see with race change is actually the cultural armor. They can either do nothing in which case there will be complaints about wasted gold. They can convert to equivalent tier of new race in which case it leaves open a loophole for the achievements. I know achievements are not a big deal but for some people it’s almost a life and death thing.
It will NOT happen. Your race is not a cosmetic thing like armor or hair. Not even the skills, but the story. Your entire story has roots in your race, and will get messed up. That alone is why it will NEVER happen.
They can just restrict it to characters that already have the story done and as for cultural armor or anything that is race specific, put in a disclosure box when you use a race change token saying that you will no longer be able to use any of your old race specific gear. I mean seriously, how many people actually even look at the story once they have finished it.
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Personal story and home instances aren’t of much importance to many players. With an obvious warning that personal story and home instances would be reset/wiped/whatever, I’m sure many, many people would still buy gems for character race change.
They wouldn’t allow them to be wiped cause the of the rewards that would be reopened do to it. Personal stories would have to be transferred over and corresponding spots would have to match with the other, and that would be a lot of work to make that work. As well culture armor wouldn’t work, and there would be hundreds of bugs introduced with many other issues. It’s not as simple as you think due to the nature of how coding works.
How is it any different than getting the rewards again on a new char? …
everyone keeps saying “change personal story” to the "new personal story:
What if instead that gets completely reset and you get taken to the character selection part where you have to pick the “personal story blueprint” ?
Problem solved for all cases.. like creating a enw char but with all the armors and weapons and map completition and dungeons and unnecesarily souldbound stuff out there.
Racials would disappear and refund 80% of their gold cost
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It could be done, other games have done it. I hope they do choose to do it, Anet would make some pretty good money from it.
If they can bring SAB into Guild War2 they can have an Asura racial transformation thing of a bobber. It’s done in FOTM, Living Story items, and karma quest rewards from vendors all the time.
I would pay for it, as would others. Therefore, it should be researched. (Yes I realize you can alternatively make a new character, “pay” for it to be 80, geared, etc. but it is not the same).
they will tease you for over a year and then release it and announce to everyone as something huge is added to the game like an expansion… it will be priced at 800-1200gems. Be hyped for a ripoff.
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The reason that race changes can’t work is because racial changes aren’t simply cosmetic. Unlike your name or appearance, the race of your character determines a lot about them—personal story, home instance, racial skills…even conversations with NPCs. As much as I like letting other people do their own harmless things, a race change would cheapen the PS and so forth even moreso than I feel it is right now. It wouldn’t be a race change in GW2, it would be more like a character overhaul.
I understand wanting a race change for cosmetic reasons, but if that’s the case really it’s better to just start over on a new character. Personally, I am happy with my characters. If I’m not, I remake them. I’ve done it lots of times. Arenanet doesn’t seem keen on racial changes at all, and I don’t think they will change their stance on that. I am sure that, if worst comes to worst, there are games out there that will facilitate your want for a new race, but really your race is absolutely not mere cosmetics. It doesn’t make any sense to switch races—it would break the core of your character.
Personal story or home instance isn’t a problem. they can just make it work like a character “reincarnation” with zero personal stories completed, zero memories of the character’s previous life. basically you will start from your new race’s home instance as a 80lvl(or whatever your level is) without any completed stories. your map completion and gear will stay. i don’t think this is that hard to code, it must be because of their policy.
Personal story or home instance isn’t a problem. they can just make it work like a character “reincarnation” with zero personal stories completed, zero memories of the character’s previous life. basically you will start from your new race’s home instance as a 80lvl(or whatever your level is) without any stories completed. your map completion and gear will stay. i don’t think this is that hard to code, it must be because of their policy.
But…why would you want to do that? Maybe I am just the type to be particularly involved in stories and characters, but to me that sounds like just starting over at a higher level. (plus if you want to work it in like “reincarnation” i think that your level would probably at least change somewhat! it must be disorienting in a new body.) I think it’s possible to start over and transfer gear if you are interested in that, that way when you do get to level 80 on your new character you can wear whatever you want and be an Asura while doing it.
I don’t really need it but just to throw it out there as a suggestion.
How about making completing the story up to the Order Arc (as described here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Personal_storyline) a requirement for the race change? Once the race arc is completed, the rest is not race sensitive anyway. Any investment made into racial skills are lost and all cultural armor becomes unequipped.
Think about it, A-net; folks will probably buy a Total Makeover Kit + Name change contract right after. Mmmm… $$$
Perhaps as added flavor, every NPC will henceforth address the player as “freak” (like in http://zeldawiki.org/Thievery).
Personal story or home instance isn’t a problem. they can just make it work like a character “reincarnation” with zero personal stories completed, zero memories of the character’s previous life. basically you will start from your new race’s home instance as a 80lvl(or whatever your level is) without any stories completed. your map completion and gear will stay. i don’t think this is that hard to code, it must be because of their policy.
But…why would you want to do that? Maybe I am just the type to be particularly involved in stories and characters, but to me that sounds like just starting over at a higher level. (plus if you want to work it in like “reincarnation” i think that your level would probably at least change somewhat! it must be disorienting in a new body.) I think it’s possible to start over and transfer gear if you are interested in that, that way when you do get to level 80 on your new character you can wear whatever you want and be an Asura while doing it.
If you don’t care about storyline and don’t want to level/complete whole map again this can be a valid point. Otherwise ofc we can always open a new character and level & complete the map with it. But it’s kinda hard and boring to start over. Actually None of my characters have more than lvl 50 story missions, I level them in wvw.
The reason that race changes can’t work is because racial changes aren’t simply cosmetic. Unlike your name or appearance, the race of your character determines a lot about them—personal story, home instance, racial skills…even conversations with NPCs. As much as I like letting other people do their own harmless things, a race change would cheapen the PS and so forth even moreso than I feel it is right now. It wouldn’t be a race change in GW2, it would be more like a character overhaul.
I understand wanting a race change for cosmetic reasons, but if that’s the case really it’s better to just start over on a new character. Personally, I am happy with my characters. If I’m not, I remake them. I’ve done it lots of times. Arenanet doesn’t seem keen on racial changes at all, and I don’t think they will change their stance on that. I am sure that, if worst comes to worst, there are games out there that will facilitate your want for a new race, but really your race is absolutely not mere cosmetics. It doesn’t make any sense to switch races—it would break the core of your character.
I have 5 armor sets, full rabid/full dire/full berserker/full knights/ full soldiers, I have every weapon necro can use, I have sclerite dagger skin, dragon jade staff skin, ascended earings, t3 cultural skin, the 800 diamond skin and you want me to make a new character, get 100% map complete then spend 300 diamonds a piece on those new cash shop items to rip the skins off them for my new necro AFTER i’ve rebought all the armor sets + weapons? yeah sounds like FUN … >>
I do not care about personal story, mine is only level 30 or something because that’s how boring and crap it is to me, reset it by all means if it means i can change my race to something where i can actually see my weapons. In a game that advertises multiple skins for armor/weapons + introduces them frequently – This game is about cosmetic appearance and when i’m stuck playing a race that can’t show off as much as others (kitten i know) then surely something is wrong?
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The reason that race changes can’t work is because racial changes aren’t simply cosmetic. Unlike your name or appearance, the race of your character determines a lot about them—personal story, home instance, racial skills…even conversations with NPCs. As much as I like letting other people do their own harmless things, a race change would cheapen the PS and so forth even moreso than I feel it is right now. It wouldn’t be a race change in GW2, it would be more like a character overhaul.
Which has been discussed at length before with plenty of ways around this “issue”.
For example, a race change from OriginalRace to NewRace could involve the first personal story to say “You where born NewRace but raised by OriginalRace blablabla”. Your home instance doesnt change, nor does your racial skills – you where tought them by your OriginalRace parents and obviously raised in their home city. Like an Asura that’s been raised by Norn (previously a Norn character) would be able to transform into a cute cuddly little snow leopard. Your personal story would remain the same as this change is only allowed for level 80 characters that has completed the personal story line.
If you decide to race change again, your OriginalRace remain the same (ie same home instance and everything).
If you got racial armor, it would end up in the inventory as account bound/souldbound on use (still limited to race). Up to the player to decide if its worth it. You dont loose it, but you can no longer use it nor do you get “free” racial armor for your new race.
Not saying that they should do it, but he easiest solution would be to just have the story reset, and the story to have to be redone, with rewards locked until you reach what the current set for the character was before the change.
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Biggest problem I see with this is that when new races come out people will just change and skip the experience of the new story… My personal opinion is that they say it can’t be done so they can later add it and tell people how much they listen… This reminds me of the 7 heroe request in gw1, it could not be done, the game is not designed for 7 heroes they said, but eventually it happened, I just hope they don’t wait as long as they did in gw1 for this.
If there is enough demand for race change you can bet there will eventually be a supply of race change.
Probably when a larger chunk of the population is fully geared in ascended gear and the idea of rerolling due to race isn’t an option for the majority of people.
It’s not impossible if arenanet wants it. It’s impossible because arenanet doesn’t want this feature for now. But even for 2500 gems tons of players would still buy it, this is a huge income for anet. (assuming many players will buy these gems with credit card)
It’s not impossible if arenanet wants it. It’s impossible because arenanet doesn’t want this feature for now. But even for 2500 gems tons of players would still buy it, this is a huge income for anet. (assuming many players will buy these gems with credit card)
well I think anet are clever enough to calculate how much would cost them reprograming everything related to the race change and also how much $ they can pull outta it
and sofar they say no
since it will impact directly on your personal story and achievements, I don’t think so,
No it can’t impact achievements, it will be just like deleting a character. if you delete a character with fully completed story, its achievement will still stay. Storyline will be resetted/wiped on race change but achievements will stay. It will be just like creating a new character(the same class) with a different race after deleting old one, only difference is your level/map completion/gear/class will exist on the new character.
since it will impact directly on your personal story and achievements, I don’t think so,
No it can’t impact achievements, it will be just like deleting a character. if you delete a character with fully completed story, its achievement will still stay. Storyline will be resetted/wiped on race change but achievements will stay. It will be just like creating a new character(the same class) with a different race after deleting old one, only difference is your level/map completion/gear/class will exist on the new character.
But again it wouldn’t be good to let you complete your storyline (again) with a lvl 80 fully geared character. We, as players that “already did it all”, can say it’s trivial content anyway and anyone can do it in a few hours with a new character. But it would still be wrong to just let you re-do it like that.
And what’s next? they have it scripted so one mission leads to the next one. Will you re-do the whole personal quest?
Ps. by the way, its not only race change but the whole background. The story that you chose and gave you special skins or whatever. Racial skills, Home instance, etc… its not that simple.
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I don’t think you guys realize that people who want the race change simply don’t care about personal story or cultural armor becoming unusable. These are all facts people are willing to accept for a race change. Reset personal story for all I care, take away the achievement points for it.
I don’t think you guys realize that people who want the race change simply don’t care about personal story or cultural armor becoming unusable. These are all facts people are willing to accept for a race change. Reset personal story for all I care, take away the achievement points for it.
Even though I agree with you. It’s what ANet cares and want to keep on their game and not want you or me want. If ANet consider the personal quest important, they won’t “reset” it or remove your progress just for a race change.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
I don’t think you guys realize that people who want the race change simply don’t care about personal story or cultural armor becoming unusable. These are all facts people are willing to accept for a race change. Reset personal story for all I care, take away the achievement points for it.
Even though I agree with you. It’s what ANet cares and want to keep on their game and not want you or me want. If ANet consider the personal quest important, they won’t “reset” it or remove your progress just for a race change.
It doesn’t matter how many times this comes up. The official word was a No. There are more then enough issues with balance, and bugs in this game. For all we know this could be hard coded. And we have a minority of people who constantly complain that they are not able to change their race. I personally hope Anet never implements it. But if they do do it, I hope its a good ways down the road once they have taken time to fix all the other issues that are going on with this game. It would add little to the majority of players, and isn’t worth the amount of time it would take them to re-program everything.
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I don’t think players that are still asking for this are fully aware of all the things that are necessary to change, not just the race. Skills, cultural armors, home instance, all choices on character creation… I mean,… I can’t see from a developer point of view how would this even be possible. They would pretty much had to re-do lots of its core just to change a race? Do yourself a favor and move on from this idea… the game was not made for this, it was so not made for this that from the very beginning your character starts printing things to itself that are 100% bounded and dependent on your race.
Zerk is the average Joe build. Don’t pat yourself in the back too hard.
I don’t think players that are still asking for this are fully aware of all the things that are necessary to change, not just the race. Skills, cultural armors, home instance, all choices on character creation… I mean,… I can’t see from a developer point of view how would this even be possible. They would pretty much had to re-do lots of its core just to change a race? Do yourself a favor and move on from this idea… the game was not made for this, it was so not made for this that from the very beginning your character starts printing things to itself that are 100% bounded and dependent on your race.
Hmm… Just because something is difficult doesn’t mean people should quit asking for it. Frankly, ANet should have known this would come up and build things accordingly. I can see that they didn’t, but that’s really their own fault.
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I hope ArenaNet stands to its current decision. Race change should not be possible. Hairdo is ok but everything else is immersion breaking. That includes the Total Makeover Kit which is already a sin, immersion-wise speaking.
Hair and Make-over both changes the cosmetic aspect of the character. Race is not a cosmetic feature.
I’m sorry if it bugs you from a cosmetic point of view, but it doesn’t work that way in a software. When something it’s so core and deep in its code, you can’t simply change it without redoing half of the game. Even if it doesn’t directly impact some areas of the game it might already been coded in a way that it does. Sometimes this is done for future ideas (like content shown depending on your race, or what if your personal story continues depending on the companion chosen at the start, etc)
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