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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

Dear Anet!

Im a poor hungarian guy. Lot people cry for multiloot to nerf, because they think it is not fair…lol. Okey no problem. Nerf it then, but i ask, where is the fair at the gem price?
An avarage ppl get 300-400 euro in a month in hungary.
A germany, or any other maybe get 1000-2000 euro or more in a month.
So where is the fair? If no more multiloot, than give cheaper the gems for the hungarians.
now 800 gem = 3000 Huf (it is nonsens) give for hungarians 800 gem = 500 Huf
Ty!

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Posted by: coso.9173

coso.9173

I don’t think Arenanet changes prices depending on the economic situation of every and each single country.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

Anet manages the economy in the game they created. It’s not their job to manage the economy for your country (or in any other).

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Posted by: Tumult.2578

Tumult.2578

When did Anet ever say it was an exploit?

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Posted by: Sobik.7839

Sobik.7839

Hi ragester,

I feel you – I am from a poor Eastern European country as well. It’s true that players from Western European countries and US will have a much better value for their gems compared to us, but on the other hand ArenaNet is an American company, which means they pay US taxes and generally operate in USD – it’s understandable that they convert all the value to USD. They are not a non-profit organization, you know.

You also have to consider the Steam’s case, which can actually teach you a lot.

(1) Steam has three different markets for US (in USD), Europe (in Euro) and Russia (in RUB). You can imagine that obviously the RUB version of given game is the cheapest one.
(2) Obviously, people try to get to Russian market just to save some of their money, even if they earn not that badly in their USD or EUR.
(3) Once upon a time there was an extremely interesting promotion – Total War: Rome (I think so) costed 1$, 1EUR or 1RUB, depending on where you are located. People, instead of enjoying having their game for almost free (even in Poland 1 EUR is equal to the price of 0,5l of Coca-cola), started raging that the price should be equal for everyone because Russians are given an unfair advantage.

[Random trivia: let’s say they had a BIT of point – and you can understand that, Hungarian guy, because your currency is kind of like RUB: 1 HUF or 1 RUB is the same value like 0.01 EUR or 0.01 PLN; so basically 100 HUF or 100 RUB are equal to 1 EUR.]

In any case, there were a lot of people saying that all the Steam prices just should be equal independently of the economy of given country, especially since Eastern European countries are forced to pay in EUR on Steam anyway, and this currency is expensive here.

(4) Final blast: Steam is under investigation right now. High guys are gonna check whether they are not breaking any laws connected to the commerce and equality of the market by operating different currencies.

So, to sum up, ArenaNet could have really big issues if they tried to adjust their prices to the economy of every country. Maybe better not?

Especially since you’re complaining about FREE gems – yes, free, because you get them with FREE gold.

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

I think anet just broke ml, because they want sell more gems…maybe will work this way…maybe somebody just laugh on 10, 20, 30 euro, but for me 10 euro is very much, and i think not just for me…i dont understand why so expensive, because this is just a kitten visual part…

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

Yup this is the problem…anet is an american corp. In world of tank much better the gold/money price, but Wargaming is a russian corp… Wargaming is a record holder…Anet is thinking wrong…

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

“micro transactions” are not micro
this has always annoyed me

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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Posted by: Sobik.7839

Sobik.7839

“micro transactions” are not micro
this has always annoyed me

Could you elaborate on this topic? I mean, I’m not a big spender of money in MMOs but on the other hand, I’m not keen on cosmetics or other visual things. Especially if, like in GW2, most of gems can actually be EARNED IN THE GAME by earning gold. I mean, how many MMOs allow this?

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Posted by: coso.9173

coso.9173

I’d say about half of them allow it XD

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

IndigoSundown.5419

It sounds like the OP was exchanging gold gained from multiloot for gems. He’s painting the issue as if there are only two options. Either: “Get gold really fast,” or “Spend real money.” The truth is there is a third option, “Get gold less fast.”

When viewed in that light, the issue is really, “OP has been spoiled by the rate at which he was able to gain gold to exchange for gems.” This rant is rooted in player impatience and entitlement.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

Dear Anet!

Im a poor hungarian guy. Lot people cry for multiloot to nerf, because they think it is not fair…lol. Okey no problem. Nerf it then, but i ask, where is the fair at the gem price?
An avarage ppl get 300-400 euro in a month in hungary.
A germany, or any other maybe get 1000-2000 euro or more in a month.
So where is the fair? If no more multiloot, than give cheaper the gems for the hungarians.
now 800 gem = 3000 Huf (it is nonsens) give for hungarians 800 gem = 500 Huf
Ty!

The great thing about GW2 is that you can buy gems with gold in the game. So you don’t have to spend your money on gems.

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

In gw2 very hard to get gold…ML was a good way to get gold, and with gold u can buy gem…now this way is over…but i will not buy gem with real money, because is too expensive…if will be cheaper maybe i will thinking buy gem with real money…but till not..so what happend with this..nothing…just poor guys can get gold most hardly..this is what happend…nothing more

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

so i dont understand what is mind in ML nerf

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Posted by: vesica tempestas.1563

vesica tempestas.1563

you don’t understand the problem for the economy and game-play in general when players are exploiting a design flaw to loot the same loot over and over across multiple instances? Take GW2 out of the equation, imagine a raiding game like WOW where you beat the boss then simply swap between the instances and loot the same boss 10 times – sounds like cheating doesn’t it when you put it like that.

re the poor hard done by argument – you can get well over a thousand gold a year by simply playing for minutes per day.


“Trying to please everyone would not only be challenging
but would also result in a product that might not satisfy anyone”- Roman Pichler, Strategize

(edited by vesica tempestas.1563)

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

pfffffffffffff lol

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

are u lawyer? :O

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

Okey i can get 1000 gold in a year, than tell me how many years will work yet the gw2 servers…

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

“micro transactions” are not micro
this has always annoyed me

Could you elaborate on this topic? I mean, I’m not a big spender of money in MMOs but on the other hand, I’m not keen on cosmetics or other visual things. Especially if, like in GW2, most of gems can actually be EARNED IN THE GAME by earning gold. I mean, how many MMOs allow this?

well for example if I made a game name changes and new skins wouldn’t cost 10-20$ but more like 1-5$, and you wouldn’t be able to buy them with in game money.

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

nwm…im quit this theme..ty all for the answers, and ideas…bb all, and huv fun

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Posted by: vesica tempestas.1563

vesica tempestas.1563

Okey i can get 1000 gold in a year, than tell me how many years will work yet the gw2 servers…

eh?


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but would also result in a product that might not satisfy anyone”- Roman Pichler, Strategize

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

ahm yes vesica…my english is very bad sorry if u dont understand

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Posted by: vesica tempestas.1563

vesica tempestas.1563

ah ok if you want gold, dip into spvp, then wvw in 5 minutes you will have 3-5 gold profit per day with with little effort win or lose and some fun. same goes for fractals and dungeons, 5-10 gold for 15 mins play.


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but would also result in a product that might not satisfy anyone”- Roman Pichler, Strategize

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Posted by: ragester.8709

ragester.8709

okey ty very much

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Posted by: tanmiro.5918

tanmiro.5918

1000g in a year?… wait what?… all you have to do is farm sw. its easy, simple and bery profitable. for 3 weeks farm in sw i got nearly 2k gold , enogh to cover mats and some other stuff to make twilight…

so there are other easy ways to earn gold. new maps with LS drop a lot of rares with decent mf so there is ecto, + new leather farm

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Posted by: Ariurotl.3718

Ariurotl.3718

Now I have this image in my head of the entire country of Hungary being thrown into economic turmoil because of rising ecto prices.

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Posted by: vesica tempestas.1563

vesica tempestas.1563

that’s about 30 hours lapsed doing what you normally do but ye lots of ways to make great gold that doenst involve grinding the same exploit over and over and over again.


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but would also result in a product that might not satisfy anyone”- Roman Pichler, Strategize

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Posted by: AuTomA.2459

AuTomA.2459

You make me laugh,instead of coming on the forum and cry for something that destroyed the economy FOR MONTHS being TOTALLY unlegit,kittened and one of the worst EXPLOIT i’ve ever seen,why don’t you just go and farm,youtube is very good,type on it gw2 gold and stop cry.