please make Rifle a more viable weapon

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Posted by: VampyreJack.9183

VampyreJack.9183

two things of note to me that have been bugging me for quite some time. 1) rifle is only available currently on engineer and warrior); quite possibly one of, if not the least equippable weapons across all classes in the game.
Also, at least for warriors, it is their least effective weapon, and needs more balance. Also, please fix how engineers use this. firing your legendary off (from the hip) when it’s clearly a long-range rifle that would never be fired from the hip is really unimpressive. I also hope that come the expansion, another class(es) will be able to use rifle. As a loyal player that has been playing since pre-launch, i emplore you to look into this devs and other decision-makers. My sincere thanks in advance; i’m hoping i can get a reply from someone official too

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

You wont get an official response at all.

However, it’s looking likely a class is getting rifle in it’s speicalisation.

I forget which

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

You wont get an official response at all.

However, it’s looking likely a class is getting rifle in it’s speicalisation.

I forget which

Thief!!! Melee Rifle!!! Bayonet!!!

(not confirmed but highly expected)

“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140
The Dhuumfire thread

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Posted by: Kronos.2560

Kronos.2560

I agree rifle is for the most part useless apart from the animation its at least decent on engi. But on warrior aside from cosmetically being cool its worthless. Plus what I never could understand is why does a bow (and grenades) have a further range then rifle? Makes no sense at all, sure you can say a warrior rifle is meant to be in closer combat. Well then turn it into a shotgun! CM dungeon has them I’m sure it can be done, plus would be great fun!

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

At least the rifle is good on sniper warriors and bunker engies. There are far kittentier weapons, just look at the torch, only used by a single class in a specific build.

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Posted by: Exeon.4358

Exeon.4358

Rifle on Engi is meta, but only 2 of it’s skills are used in the dps rotation, skill 2/4 is purely situational and 1 is crap.

Rifle on warrior is just purely single target pew pew damage, it does more damage then a longbow but has less utility, featuring a criple, knockback and vurn burst.

I use the rifle on certain fractals that I require ranged on, like mai trin, jade maw and grawl.
On mai trin i often use the long distance knockback to knock her into the lightning field, one could argue that the inmobolise could be usefull, but it requires her to already have lost a bunch of stacks.

On grawl fractal since it’s single target and I don’t need the inmobolise i prefer the higher damage

And the same for jade, only need pew pew safe damage.

In dungeons however rifle is quite useless for warrior, but so is longbow as about 99% of the bosses are done in melee.

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Posted by: RollingBob.8502

RollingBob.8502

It was a good backup while it had the bleed, then why they took that of I will never understand. There was absolutely no balance needed to nerf the thing, it had already been nerfed to death.

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Posted by: Teratus.2859

Teratus.2859

This is an issue of skin vs identity…

Warrior and Engineer Rifle skills are pretty clear on what weapon they are

Warrior Rifle is simply a Rifle
Engineer Rifle is actually a Shotgun (hence the hip shooting and blunderbuss)

the problem is that the Rifle is one weapon and has no sub group.. this makes skins for the Rifle kind of a pain since both classes are technically split between two different weapons entirely and its pointless to add in a clone Rifle weapon just for one profession..

suffice to say its just up to the player to choose suitable skins for the proffesions..
having predator on a engineer using shotgun skills is just as stupid looking as having a standard blunderbuss skin on a Warrior Rifle

I would not be opposed to weapon sub groups though if Anet were willing to take the time for them

Bow (long and Short)
Rifle (Rifle and Shotgun)
Sword (Sword and Greatsword)

I can’t see them ever taking time to do something like this though
but personally I think they should definitely have more focus on Rifle skins that are designed around both Rifle and Shotgun styles to complement each Rifle style

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Posted by: Terrahero.9358

Terrahero.9358

Shortbow, Longbow and Hammer are also used by only two professions currently.

The Hammer is a good weapon, and meta in WvW, for both Guardian and Warrior. Longbow is meta for Warrior and Ranger. Shortbow is a bit less commonly used.

Rifle is a bad weapon for Warriors. Engineers only have two MH weapons so it’s not like they have much choice really, Rifle or Pistol.
But Engineers use kits a lot, so the Rifle is still not very prominent, and it’s not even used as a Rifle which inherited it’s name from the rifling in the barrel that had the point of hitting far away targets more accurately.

So really we only have one Rifle, the other is a Blunderbuss and that just got meshed together. And that makes the weapon seem very atypical.

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Posted by: edgarallanpwn.8739

edgarallanpwn.8739

Rifle on Engi is meta, but only 2 of it’s skills are used in the dps rotation, skill 2/4 is purely situational and 1 is crap.

Rifle on warrior is just purely single target pew pew damage, it does more damage then a longbow but has less utility, featuring a criple, knockback and vurn burst.

I use the rifle on certain fractals that I require ranged on, like mai trin, jade maw and grawl.
On mai trin i often use the long distance knockback to knock her into the lightning field, one could argue that the inmobolise could be usefull, but it requires her to already have lost a bunch of stacks.

On grawl fractal since it’s single target and I don’t need the inmobolise i prefer the higher damage

And the same for jade, only need pew pew safe damage.

In dungeons however rifle is quite useless for warrior, but so is longbow as about 99% of the bosses are done in melee.

Exactly. I feel rifle is fine as far as warriors are concerned. If they buff it, HELL YEAH why not. but it has a specific use(single target) and the bow is aoe.