Seeing how awesome the mordy fight, the meta not the instance one, can u please rework zaitan. one of the best looking dragon i seen ingame has a horrible and not so memorable fights thinking about it make u cringe :S
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It’s unlikely they will want to put resources into the zhaitan fight at this point. Too much effort for something barely anyone plays on a day to day basis.
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It’s unlikely they will want to put resources into the zhaitan fight at this point. Too much effort for something barely anyone plays on a day to day basis.
That and not to mention, Zhaitan is part of the personal story, they did change it for a time where a group was required to beat him but unfortunately that was a bit redundant (and very frustrating) and not very upholding to the term “personal story”. I think it’s fine as it is. We have the improved Shatterer & Modremoth to keep us occupied for now and there’s more dragons to come soon which I’m sure will provide even more interesting battles.
Edit: Well not soon, but there’s other dragons out there :P
Even if they reworked something like the zhaitan fight, there would be little to gain from it. Players would complain of the waste of resources and old content. It’s better Anet counts their losses and does better next time.
I liked the Mordremoth fight. The extreme mode was pretty fun before people optimized the heck out of it.
It’s unlikely they will want to put resources into the zhaitan fight at this point. Too much effort for something barely anyone plays on a day to day basis.
That and not to mention, Zhaitan is part of the personal story, they did change it for a time where a group was required to beat him but unfortunately that was a bit redundant (and very frustrating) and not very upholding to the term “personal story”. I think it’s fine as it is. We have the improved Shatterer & Modremoth to keep us occupied for now and there’s more dragons to come soon which I’m sure will provide even more interesting battles.
Edit: Well not soon, but there’s other dragons out there :P
It never was soloable at launch. You used to always need at least 1 other person to complete story mode Arah. And the mobs were scaled to having 5 people in a party like other dungeons.
After many complaints by players, ANet changed it to where you no longer needed a group and removed it as a dungeon all together.
But I agree, that ANet doesn’t need to spend resources on revamping that fight as well as all of the other bosses in Cursed Shore since there isn’t much unused map space so timers for things would have to be adjusted to fit the new map meta boss. I’d rather ANet work on new maps and new bosses and new stories for us to experience than rehash an old one.
It never was soloable at launch. You used to always need at least 1 other person to complete story mode Arah. And the mobs were scaled to having 5 people in a party like other dungeons.
How long after launch was that? Cause I was playing from the 3 day head start and have always known it to be soloable since then (unless they changed it quickly before I hit 80 at the time), until a few years later it became a party thing which happened after I took a 1yr= break.
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It never was soloable at launch. You used to always need at least 1 other person to complete story mode Arah. And the mobs were scaled to having 5 people in a party like other dungeons.
How long after launch was that? Cause I was playing from the 3 day head start and have always known it to be soloable since then (unless they changed it quickly before I hit 80 at the time), until a few years later it became a party thing which happened after I took a 1yr= break.
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As far as I was aware and I was playing since the first day of headstart that there was one part of the dungeon that required a second player. There were two pressure pads that had to be stepped on to open a gate. And it was always the story mode level for the dungeon Arah.
I remember the posts that came out pretty quick that they were upset that they could solo all of their personal story and then suddenly need a group to do the last mission.
And the Wiki is usually pretty good about noting such major changes and the only change mentioned was the removal of Arah Story mode as a dungeon and turning it into a personal story instance only that happened on June 23, 2015. And as of October 1, 2012 it was officially a dungeon as there was a note in the patch that they had removed a bug that would block progress in Arah Story mode which is the dungeon mode that was used for the personal story step Victory or Death. And there was no patch notice of changes to Arah Story mode or to Victory or Death prior to that patch. And I doubt that would be an undocumented change.
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Perhaps Zhaitain could be made into an awesome boss fractal? That seems like a pivotal moment that might show up in the Mists.
Generally, though, I don’t want to see a massive overhaul to make him as epic as the Mouth of Mordremoth, when they could be putting those efforts into LS3 and Expansion 2. Much as I like Zhaitan as a force of evil to battle, we have four other dragons still out there.
I’d rather see them bring LWS1 back into the game for players that missed it or wanted to redo it.
As far as fights go Zhaitain is fine the way it is. I soloed it awhile back with my engineer. A guy I work with said he paid some people to join him on that fight and I was like “what??”. lol
Seeing as you can’t replay the PS, it would be a waste of resources, as you only play it as many times as you have characters. No need really is there if you really think about it.
i know i didnt make it clear. im not asking for themn to rework the story instance of zaitan fight. im asking to give it the same treatment as mordy. mordy has the instance fight for story and he has the awesome meta event. imagine zaitan during a huge meta event? F2P account experiencing that at the end of vanilla will make them wanna but HOT to see how we rekt mordy. less than 1% of gw2 players base plays raid so putting it inside an instance will remove its epicness. im also just wanna say im not against raids but making content for the 1% of players to see is not 2016 mentality.
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i know i didnt make it clear. im not asking for themn to rework the story instance of zaitan fight. im asking to give it the same treatment as mordy. mordy has the instance fight for story and he has the awesome meta event. imagine zaitan during a huge meta event? F2P account experiencing that at the end of vanilla will make them wanna but HOT to see how we rekt mordy. less than 1% of gw2 players base plays raid so putting it inside an instance will remove its epicness. im also just wanna say im not against raids but making content for the 1% of players to see is not 2016 mentality.
That would involve re doing all of Cursed Shore. That is a lot of work.
i know i didnt make it clear. im not asking for themn to rework the story instance of zaitan fight. im asking to give it the same treatment as mordy. mordy has the instance fight for story and he has the awesome meta event. imagine zaitan during a huge meta event? F2P account experiencing that at the end of vanilla will make them wanna but HOT to see how we rekt mordy. less than 1% of gw2 players base plays raid so putting it inside an instance will remove its epicness. im also just wanna say im not against raids but making content for the 1% of players to see is not 2016 mentality.
That would involve re doing all of Cursed Shore. That is a lot of work.
This. A lot of work that should be put towards LS3 and beyond. Not backwards toward the base game PS. Now once they finish the story to its conclusion should they go back and work on past bosses to make them all the same level of awesome? Yes. But that’s years away. We still have 4 other dragons to kill along with who knows what else we’ll be going up against.
If they do anything, I just wish they’d have Destiny’s Edge get out on the ship and join the fight (it’s why we brought those losers, right?). In single-player PS, its’ very underwhelming trying to kill Zhaitan while being the only person on deck. It goes from “Massive airship trying to take down Zhaitan and his minions with the full force of the Pact’s weapons” to “Lone shlub plinking away at an idiot dragon”
The only reason they’d rework the Zhaitan fight at this point, to be honest, is if they get the desire to rework the personal story entirely so that it is repeatable content.
However, given that they seem completely okay with leaving an entire storyline out of the game, leaving hundreds if not thousands of players (with increasing numbers as time goes on) confused as to what happened between the personal story and Season 2 (even leaving some folks thinking that the personal story is season 1), I don’t see ArenaNet reworking the personal story (again, technically).
What I hope they do, instead (okay not really instead because I would love for them to fully rework the PS to be replayable and to bring back S1 as permanent content), is rework the five temple metas to be on par to Vinewrath/Octovine/Shatterer, and the Gates of Arah fight to be on par to Tequatl/Mouth of Mordremoth. Would also love the Ancient Karka, Twisted Marionette, and Prime Hologram fights to become Guild World Boss missions or something.
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Stop treating GW2 as a single story. Each Season and expansion should be their own story.
The only reason they’d rework the Zhaitan fight at this point, to be honest, is if they get the desire to rework the personal story entirely so that it is repeatable content.
However, given that they seem completely okay with leaving an entire storyline out of the game, leaving hundreds if not thousands of players (with increasing numbers as time goes on) confused as to what happened between the personal story and Season 2 (even leaving some folks thinking that the personal story is season 1), I don’t see ArenaNet reworking the personal story (again, technically).
What I hope they do, instead (okay not really instead because I would love for them to fully rework the PS to be replayable and to bring back S1 as permanent content), is rework the five temple metas to be on par to Vinewrath/Octovine/Shatterer, and the Gates of Arah fight to be on par to Tequatl/Mouth of Mordremoth. Would also love the Ancient Karka, Twisted Marionette, and Prime Hologram fights to become Guild World Boss missions or something.
They have said many times, they cannot make the PS replay able dew to the way it’s coded, when they did look into it, it was very buggy, that had permanent progress blocking bugs, all 3 mentors showing up in the same story step. ANet then made the decision to not continue with trying to make the PS replayable. They where simply braking more things than they could fix.
thinking about it make u cringe :S