Guild Wars 2

Hello, i know everyone complains about rng but i’m starting to be really annoying with my “luck”, it feels like it was programmed to be this bad.

All started today when i was helping a new guild member and newb player and like always, they seems to be blessed by the rng god, its not the first time i help someone and they hit jackpot, in this case, he told me he got a 17g drop + 2 Bl tickets in 2-3 weeks of gameplay and that made me think about my account and how i’ve been holding 4 scraps in my bank for years now and literally never hit any jackpot in this game.

My account is now more than 3 years old (i got my “first” 3rd birthday gift a few days ago), i’m not a extremely active player but i got almost 1900 hours of gameplay, 247% MF, 7 lvl 80s, one with map 100% and full ascended and in those 1900hours, i’ve got 3 drops worth ~8g at the time, one was entropy from Teql, a rune from the mystic toilet and a sigil that i took from a weapon i think.

My average other than the rares from events is the exo every couple of days worth less than a gold and maybe one worth a couple gold if i play with the mystic forge, usually is a loss because i put more gold than what i get.

Really, there must be something wrong with my account, this can’t be pure Rng/random probabilities, it feels like it’s purposely bad.

All the gold i have was either got from normal playing (pvp/events/dungeons), annoyingly farmed for endless hours (sw/trains), flipped or bought from gems, but never from a single event like a expensive drop or a bl ticket and is starting to be really dismotivating seeing practically everyday, someone from my guild/friends list making more gold from a single drop than what i make playing in a month, sometimes multiple times… its like everyone you know won the lotto at least once in their lifetime, all expect you.

I’ve always been a optimistic guy, always saying to my self, my day will come, but after waiting for 3 years i just feel like giving up, one thing i’ve always like in mmos was that feeling when after so much grind, the game awards you with some awesome drop, sadly I’ve never felt that in the 3 years i’ve played this game.

Hmm, getting highly prized drops isn’t the be all end all of the game. Sure it’s nice getting high priced exotics drop or ascended chests, but if you start to only focus on those you will get very bored of playing.
You made your set of ascended gear, most people either don’t want that or cba with the effort, so you have ‘grinded the game’ and succeeded.

See, I’m not all to bothered what does or does not drop for me, I still have fun. I have 235%magic find, I used to farm a lot of champion bags and I’ve only ever had cheap exotics from those. But I have been luckier with the Mystic Forge.

Haleydawn.3764:

Hmm, getting highly prized drops isn’t the be all end all of the game. Sure it’s nice getting high priced exotics drop or ascended chests, but if you start to only focus on those you will get very bored of playing.
You made your set of ascended gear, most people either don’t want that or cba with the effort, so you have ‘grinded the game’ and succeeded.

See, I’m not all to bothered what does or does not drop for me, I still have fun. I have 235%magic find, I used to farm a lot of champion bags and I’ve only ever had cheap exotics from those. But I have been luckier with the Mystic Forge.

It’s just annoying that i literally had to work my kitten off for every skin, armor, everything i have, plus the fact that i cant play as much as i wish, i just don’t have more hours because i don’t have much free time to play the game so making gold takes a lot of time with conventional methods, even a single drop worth a few dozen gold would save me days of farming and help equip a character faster.

Also there’s lots of skins that i’d love to use but i simply feel like they are out of my grasp, really, getting a good drop once a while would make a big difference, getting a couple hundred gold from nothing is really helpful. that would be enough to fully equip 2 characters…

Really, i see lots of players with less game time/achieves, etc than me with most of their character fully equipped with ascended and also sporting a legendary, simply because they got lucky with better priced exotics/percursors, not because they did work for it. but i’m not hating them, i’m hating my account…

Practically everyone i know got a nice drop at least once int heir game lifetime that helped them fully equip at least a character.

Rauven.3847:

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I get what you mean but you’re not the only one that has had to farm their butt off to gear characters :P
I have 9 level 80s, used to be 10, 6 with 100%maps, used to be 7 (yes I deleted a 100% toon). One has a full ascended set the rest are in full exotic with random ascended weapons/back/accessories scattered.

Before I even bothered with any legendaries I never had more than 100g and I farmed a lot for that. I try to kill Tequatl everyday since he was revamped and after all those kills I finally got 1 Teq Hoard. 1! I never got a preq as a drop, mine came from the forge, and I spent a lot to get them, not as much as buying off the TP but it was still a lot.

If you don’t play all too much then making gold or farming for drops w/e will always seem to take forever.

Tldr: Stop focussing on what other people get and start enjoying your game time, those people most likely play more often and far longer than you can, and that’s ok. As I said, good drops arent the be all end all.

rng is rng
rng
rng.

When we all go farming
we all want the best.
Every minute of an hour
don’t think about a rest.
Then you all get the shinies
you all get the best.
When everyone gives everything and every loot everybody picks.

(but) its (stil)l rng
rng is rng
rng is rng
rng.

rng is rng – when we all feel the sadness
rng is rng – come on
stand up and play the game!

just deal with it . If all would get everytime everything all would be worth nothing.

oh another prec drop :/ my 300th this day

Just play the game and always remember.

thx to anet only skins are rng/rare and not the equipment as in other games! and that is just great!

edit: and dont believe all the map chat codes with prec and so on the people pinging in map chat . most are trolling post (chat codes or from tp bought precs!)

You mentioned black lion tickets as one of the good drops your friend got. Those only come from opening chests with keys, which leads to a (to my mind) obvious question: Has your friend been buying Black Lion Keys from the gem store? And if so how many has he bought and how does that compare to how many keys you buy/farm?

If your friend has spent $100 on keys and you never buy them and do 1 key run a week then it wouldn’t be at all surprising that he’s got more tickets than you. (And in that case would assume the other lucky drops also came from the chests.) It’s not that he’s got better luck, it’s simply that he’s had more tries than you.

This is the problem with discussing ‘luck’ and RNG in this game generally. Almost everyone looks at how much time they’ve spent playing (as total hours spent logged in and/or how long ago they got the game) and which drops stand out as exceptionally good in their memory.

There’s a huge amount of information missing from that. To take a hypothetical extreme if one person bought the game at launch, logged in, and never played but stayed logged in until today they’d have over 26,000 hours on their account and absolutely no drops at all. But that would have nothing at all to do with how ‘lucky’ they are(nt) or whether there is some sinister code flagging their account to get bad drops and everything to do with what they did in game, which would be nothing.

Obviously that’s an absurd extreme but exactly the same considerations are true for real play time. A person who got to level 80 as fast as they could and then spent most of their time farming world bosses, champ trains and silverwastes is likely to have far better drops than someone who took their time levelling up and then spends a lot of time afk or chatting in town, helping low level friends in starter maps, levelling alts etc. etc. and again that would have absolutely nothing to do with one person being ‘luckier’ than another – it’s simply that one has far more chances to encounter good drops as a result of how they choose to play.

RNG is RNG. But sometimes, I wonder…

Smooth Penguin.5294:

RNG is RNG. But sometimes, I wonder…

and?

Zaron.1987:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

RNG is RNG. But sometimes, I wonder…

and?

I think sometimes, a new patch might break something and accidentally increase RNG. That’s just pure speculation on my part though.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Zaron.1987:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

RNG is RNG. But sometimes, I wonder…

and?

I think sometimes, a new patch might break something and accidentally increase RNG. That’s just pure speculation on my part though.

you ve stolen rauvens luck. pls send the stuff to him .

ty^^

The truth is out there.

If you think about it. RNG is just an internal coding for the mechanic being used (i.e. Mystic Forge). If a new patch comes out, and breaks something, it could cause the RNG “coding” to possibly repeat itself, thus allowing for god-like luck.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The truth is out there.

If you think about it. RNG is just an internal coding for the mechanic being used (i.e. Mystic Forge). If a new patch comes out, and breaks something, it could cause the RNG “coding” to possibly repeat itself, thus allowing for god-like luck.

It’d be great to get in on that before it gets patched out again and maybe recycling the goods in case they delete anything made during the patch.

However, I haven’t seen that and I’m fairly sure they test patches to ensure luck stays abysmal.

Agemnon.4608:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

The truth is out there.

If you think about it. RNG is just an internal coding for the mechanic being used (i.e. Mystic Forge). If a new patch comes out, and breaks something, it could cause the RNG “coding” to possibly repeat itself, thus allowing for god-like luck.

It’d be great to get in on that before it gets patched out again and maybe recycling the goods in case they delete anything made during the patch.

However, I haven’t seen that and I’m fairly sure they test patches to ensure luck stays abysmal.

But be careful with being “hooked”.
Zommoros could steal even your underwear

your friend is illuminati, confirmed.

Most “bad luck” is just normal behavior clustered around an average that is much, much lower than people want to admit…

Rauven.3847:

Hello, i know everyone complains about rng but i’m starting to be really annoying with my “luck”, it feels like it was programmed to be this bad.

Although I cannot verify it, it seems to me that you might be unlucky in some parts of the game but lucky in others. So, it’s more sure to get lucky if you play multiple parts of the game rather than trying the same thing over and over.

A good example in my case is getting the Dry Top fossilized insects. I only got a single fossil using lockpicks so far but back then I wasn’t counting (I certainly a LOT, nearly 100 but can’t be sure) so now I count my lockpicks until I get a fossil. My current streak is 52 lockpicks without a fossil and still going, I hope I get one before I reach 100 lockpicks. Good thing I can get those from PVP…

On the other hand I got the Carapace chest piece from just 2 tries of Vinewrath, 2 drops + 1 from the achievement for defeating VW the first time. From the time I was running VW I was getting 1 chest piece from about 3 out of 4 runs.

So yeah it’s RNG, but from my simple experience there are certain parts where you might be lucky and other parts of the game that you are unlucky. If something you want has multiple ways of getting it, try different ones.

As everyone said….RNG is RNG. Also know some people hide their own insecurity with exaggerations. I know for a fact that one of those “lucky” people around me was lying bout his wealth and actually wasnt that wealthy.

Zaron.1987:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Zaron.1987:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

RNG is RNG. But sometimes, I wonder…

and?

I think sometimes, a new patch might break something and accidentally increase RNG. That’s just pure speculation on my part though.

you ve stolen rauvens luck. pls send the stuff to him .

ty^^

First it’s 2 out of 5 Quaggan,and now this RNG.
Illuminati confirmed.
We are all Aliens from another planet.

Haleydawn.3764:

Rauven.3847:

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I get what you mean but you’re not the only one that has had to farm their butt off to gear characters :P
I have 9 level 80s, used to be 10, 6 with 100%maps, used to be 7 (yes I deleted a 100% toon). One has a full ascended set the rest are in full exotic with random ascended weapons/back/accessories scattered.

Before I even bothered with any legendaries I never had more than 100g and I farmed a lot for that. I try to kill Tequatl everyday since he was revamped and after all those kills I finally got 1 Teq Hoard. 1! I never got a preq as a drop, mine came from the forge, and I spent a lot to get them, not as much as buying off the TP but it was still a lot.

If you don’t play all too much then making gold or farming for drops w/e will always seem to take forever.

Tldr: Stop focussing on what other people get and start enjoying your game time, those people most likely play more often and far longer than you can, and that’s ok. As I said, good drops arent the be all end all.

I’ve enjoyed the game, got everything by working for it, my issue is really only the fact that i’ve never saw any worthy item unless i bought it from the tp, if there wasnt a TP, i would be screwed,

That’s mainly it, never got a good “wow” drop in the 3 years i’ve been playing, it’s disappointing.

Danikat.8537:

You mentioned black lion tickets as one of the good drops your friend got. Those only come from opening chests with keys, which leads to a (to my mind) obvious question: Has your friend been buying Black Lion Keys from the gem store? And if so how many has he bought and how does that compare to how many keys you buy/farm?

If your friend has spent $100 on keys and you never buy them and do 1 key run a week then it wouldn’t be at all surprising that he’s got more tickets than you. (And in that case would assume the other lucky drops also came from the chests.) It’s not that he’s got better luck, it’s simply that he’s had more tries than you.

This is the problem with discussing ‘luck’ and RNG in this game generally. Almost everyone looks at how much time they’ve spent playing (as total hours spent logged in and/or how long ago they got the game) and which drops stand out as exceptionally good in their memory.

There’s a huge amount of information missing from that. To take a hypothetical extreme if one person bought the game at launch, logged in, and never played but stayed logged in until today they’d have over 26,000 hours on their account and absolutely no drops at all. But that would have nothing at all to do with how ‘lucky’ they are(nt) or whether there is some sinister code flagging their account to get bad drops and everything to do with what they did in game, which would be nothing.

Obviously that’s an absurd extreme but exactly the same considerations are true for real play time. A person who got to level 80 as fast as they could and then spent most of their time farming world bosses, champ trains and silverwastes is likely to have far better drops than someone who took their time levelling up and then spends a lot of time afk or chatting in town, helping low level friends in starter maps, levelling alts etc. etc. and again that would have absolutely nothing to do with one person being ‘luckier’ than another – it’s simply that one has far more chances to encounter good drops as a result of how they choose to play.

The got the tickets with the keys you get from the character story.

Rauven.3847:

Danikat.8537:

You mentioned black lion tickets as one of the good drops your friend got. Those only come from opening chests with keys, which leads to a (to my mind) obvious question: Has your friend been buying Black Lion Keys from the gem store? And if so how many has he bought and how does that compare to how many keys you buy/farm?

If your friend has spent $100 on keys and you never buy them and do 1 key run a week then it wouldn’t be at all surprising that he’s got more tickets than you. (And in that case would assume the other lucky drops also came from the chests.) It’s not that he’s got better luck, it’s simply that he’s had more tries than you.

This is the problem with discussing ‘luck’ and RNG in this game generally. Almost everyone looks at how much time they’ve spent playing (as total hours spent logged in and/or how long ago they got the game) and which drops stand out as exceptionally good in their memory.

There’s a huge amount of information missing from that. To take a hypothetical extreme if one person bought the game at launch, logged in, and never played but stayed logged in until today they’d have over 26,000 hours on their account and absolutely no drops at all. But that would have nothing at all to do with how ‘lucky’ they are(nt) or whether there is some sinister code flagging their account to get bad drops and everything to do with what they did in game, which would be nothing.

Obviously that’s an absurd extreme but exactly the same considerations are true for real play time. A person who got to level 80 as fast as they could and then spent most of their time farming world bosses, champ trains and silverwastes is likely to have far better drops than someone who took their time levelling up and then spends a lot of time afk or chatting in town, helping low level friends in starter maps, levelling alts etc. etc. and again that would have absolutely nothing to do with one person being ‘luckier’ than another – it’s simply that one has far more chances to encounter good drops as a result of how they choose to play.

The got the tickets with the keys you get from the character story.

maybe they were really lucky or they only told this to you and bought more at shop and just had much more trys…

What’s notable is that posts like the OP’s often offer an anecdote about individuals who had/have better luck. The presumption is that the poster’s bad luck is an outlier, with the good luck being the expected behavior. What’s actually true, though, is that the supposed bad luck is simply the norm and the good luck is the outlier.

If everyone got the expensive drops they wouldn’t be expensive anymore. Rare drops aren’t really anything worth thinking about, they’re few and far between for everyone. Find a flatter way to gain gold you do enjoy and the good drops will come in time. I like to make orichalcum insignias and inscription, they’re easy as hell to farm but sell instantly. Run the T6 nodes in southsun, orr, and silverwaste, and farm T6 mats from high level trash mobs (heavy bags are your friend). You can bank like 50g a day on light work this way. Rare drops mean nothing compared to minimal crafting and economic experience, which is the core end game in GW2 by design.

Asgaeroth.6427:

If everyone got the expensive drops they wouldn’t be expensive anymore. Rare drops aren’t really anything worth thinking about, they’re few and far between for everyone. Find a flatter way to gain gold you do enjoy and the good drops will come in time. I like to make orichalcum insignias and inscription, they’re easy as hell to farm but sell instantly. Run the T6 nodes in southsun, orr, and silverwaste, and farm T6 mats from high level trash mobs (heavy bags are your friend). You can bank like 50g a day on light work this way. Rare drops mean nothing compared to minimal crafting and economic experience, which is the core end game in GW2 by design.

Again, i’m not saying i want it easy and get a precursor or anything, i’ve been fine till now, but i think 3 years without a single good drop kinda feels like something is wrong.

That’s the issue i have here, after 3 years and close to 2000 hours, someone would expect to get something, will it be a percursor or simply a measly exotic worth atleast 2 digits of gold…

There’s no fun in farming when you have lost all hope that you’ll get something good…

I believe it depends on what kind of content you do (and cognitive biases).

If you only run around in low level areas, do map completion on alts… well, it’s not as likely that you’ll get something expensive or rare as if you were doing loads of dungeons, fractals, WvW, and high level areas such as Orr and SW.

Champ bags help a lot, and you don’t see many of those in low level areas. Moreover, killing a lot of mobs helps a fair amount, and doing high level content with lots of mob spawns means that you’ll have more drops (and a greater chance of getting something good). Once again, you kill very little whilst exploring.

Similarly, a new character/player is going to get a lot more BL keys (and chances for scraps, tickets and expensive items) simply because you get a BL key as a reward at level 10, 40 and 60 (?) personal story levels.

Rauven.3847:

There’s no fun in farming when you have lost all hope that you’ll get something good…

Q.Q

If you drop 5 exotics with sigill of energy in short time its also 50 gold….

but people always believe only big “dawn/the legend” drops are good

all this Q.Q everytime

Zaron.1987:

Rauven.3847:

There’s no fun in farming when you have lost all hope that you’ll get something good…

Q.Q

If you drop 5 exotics with sigill of energy in short time its also 50 gold….

but people always believe only big “dawn/the legend” drops are good

all this Q.Q everytime

Like i said the best drop i had was worth 8 gold (again, at the time, prices change), a single exotic with a sigil worth 10g would be a new record for me. i’d be happy with just one….

Zaron.1987:

Rauven.3847:

There’s no fun in farming when you have lost all hope that you’ll get something good…

Q.Q

Absolutely. With that kind of attitude, you’re not going to get anywhere.

When farming, don’t look for the big money items. Look for something that is almost a guaranteed drop and maintain the amount you’re picking up (e.g. T6 materials, cores, lodestones, ectos). Go for something tangible and achievable.

This is the stuff that stacks up (money-wise) pretty fast, and then you can hope for good drops on top of what you’re farming. Every rare that drops is an accomplishment. Every exotic you get is wonderful.

It would be silly to try and farm for a precursor, because the drop rates are so abysmally low. It’s better to involve yourself with a “steady income” and benefit from the perks that also appear every so often.

I have 2100 hours and I have received two precursors in my duration. They were both from the BLTP and there was nothing random about the gold I traded them.

Give up and buy what you want.

Crimson Clouds.4853:

When farming, don’t look for the big money items. Look for something that is almost a guaranteed drop and maintain the amount you’re picking up (e.g. T6 materials, cores, lodestones, ectos). Go for something tangible and achievable.

This is the stuff that stacks up (money-wise) pretty fast

@ Rauvens
e.g at SW event farm your something good is 3!! rares at breach and one greater key. and yes thats f…. good
or chest farm with lots of rare→ectos

Crimson Clouds.4853:

Zaron.1987:

Rauven.3847:

There’s no fun in farming when you have lost all hope that you’ll get something good…

Q.Q

Absolutely. With that kind of attitude, you’re not going to get anywhere.

When farming, don’t look for the big money items. Look for something that is almost a guaranteed drop and maintain the amount you’re picking up (e.g. T6 materials, cores, lodestones, ectos). Go for something tangible and achievable.

This is the stuff that stacks up (money-wise) pretty fast, and then you can hope for good drops on top of what you’re farming. Every rare that drops is an accomplishment. Every exotic you get is wonderful.

It would be silly to try and farm for a precursor, because the drop rates are so abysmally low. It’s better to involve yourself with a “steady income” and benefit from the perks that also appear every so often.

I think people are not getting me, i’m not saying i always play expecting to get a good drop, what i’m really saying is that my quality drop rates feels wrong, this issue just struck me like yesterday when i decided to look back and see how unlucky i’ve been in this game after the last guy i’ve helped made more gold in the first 2 weeks of game play hitting big in both a nice exo worth 17g and 2 bl tickets than what i made in the last 2 months or so, every day i see people getting great drops, i’m happy for them, like i said earlier, i was optimistic and always had in my mind the thought that one day i’d get something cool as well.

But now that i’ve noticed that it’s been 3 years, i’m disappointied, the issue isn’t getting a good drop by it self or gold overall, but the fact that after playing so much, the game never rewarded me with some drop that would make me say wow.

I fully agree with OP.

It has been discussed several times : something is weird / wrong with RNG in this game.
In the long term, there should not be so much differences between accounts.

Whereas right now some players with 4000 hours play (like myself) had to grind a lot more than other players with really less hours play (or A.P.).

In the end, as stated by OP, some players have to grind way more than others, and in the long term it’s quite unfair (as it’s real life time in the end).

SRG.3607:

I fully agree with OP.

It has been discussed several times : something is weird / wrong with RNG in this game.
In the long term, there should not be so much differences between accounts.

Whereas right now some players with 4000 hours play (like myself) had to grind a lot more than other players with really less hours play (or A.P.).

In the end, as stated by OP, some players have to grind way more than others, and in the long term it’s quite unfair (as it’s real life time in the end).

life is so hard and unfair even in pc games

keep on Q.Q (btw i am also without precursor drop )

@Rauven

Chat Code ftw

as i said most Precuror and other expensive stuff linked at map chat is trolling (chat codes or bought at tp)

every day i see people getting great drops,

Nike.2631:

Most “bad luck” is just normal behavior clustered around an average that is much, much lower than people want to admit…

This actually makes quite a bit of sense. If one throws countless rares into the forge only to keep getting garbage you need to call into question its effectiveness and mourn the potential ectos lost. Unfortunately, rare tier gear lives up to its name and is only viably farmed via crafting (great for leveling an alt’s crafting and farm ectos at the same time) or the Silverwaste. Even better than crafting would be buying some exotics off the TP for a lower cost than the mats are worth, that way you get a chance at ectos and dark matter.

Maybe you aren’t looking at your drops as a whole?

For instance, sure, you may not get many exotics that drop for you that are worthwhile.

But you may be getting average or above average amounts of rare drops, or things like T6 etc.

The other thing to consider is that there’s a kind of “You” and “Other” phenomenon going on here. You see people pinging their good drops in chat, and bundle all of those “other” people together and assume that their drop rate is significantly better than yours (without considering things like what content they are doing, how much money they are spending on it and how much magic find they have and the rest of the chat who are in a similar boat as you and don’t have anything exciting to ping).

Like most people have already said, the people who get high value drops are often very vocal about it, which makes it seem like everybody is getting high value items all the time.

However, I know for sure that my exotic “drop rate” is better than yours, I’ve certainly received more exotics than you have, but then again that’s because I’ve explored fireheart rise, frostgorge sound, mount maelstrom and all of the orr maps on about 8 different characters. You get two exotics guaranteed from these maps (along with a chance of some expensive materials and a BL key). So that means I’ve received 8*6*2 exotics just from this (96 exotics), which has given me a reasonable chance of getting runes of strength, hoelbrak, pack and sigils such as force and bloodlust, for instance.

Moreover, most of the other exotics I get that drop for me are in bags that are so overfarmed, the exotic price is terrible low. Arc and Bonetti’s Rapier are two that appear every so often when doing SW, as an example. I’ve been lucky with champ boxes from Subject 6 in fractals- the slime covered strong box is a relatively rare box, and because of this, any exotic that drops from it is going to be valuable.

It can happen. I’ve played about 2k hours, and I have just a week ago gotten my first precursor. The way I see it is that you have to make your own luck. Figure out systems that reduce rng or increase your chances.

Game wise, I do wish they would implement an entropy system that would increase your chances of getting a rare item the longer you don’t get a rare item.

Like magic find increases by 0.1% each drop and reduces when a rare or exotic drops.

I’ve had 3 BLK drop from mobs in game in the 3 years I’ve played, I’ve had mini’s and BLCT and a lot of scraps drop from chests that I have key farmed. A lot of people would think theses are good drops, other people would think they are meah.

I’ve had a few what I call nice skins from the daily exotic chest. Normally exotic’s I get that have a themed skin I get from putting dungeon weapons in the MF.

I’ve Been sitting on the 3 gifts to make the Flameseeker for months. The chosen has yet to drop for me, and at current prices I’m about 250 gold away from buying it from the TP. Some people get lucky, some don’t, that is life.

More tries at BL chests and Mystic Forge is a moot point as most of us have seen people trying forge just a few times to get a precursor while others spend 100’s of gold on forge for theirs.

Same with BL ticket scraps. I bought 12 keys and got 1 scrap and no full tickets while guildie gets 4 scraps AND a BL ticket from 5 BL chests. Which makes me question the increased drop rate of scraps that Anet implemented.

Over time I’ve had a few full tickets and plenty of scraps from BL keys I got from mapping, but when I’ve paid cash for gems to get keys my luck is very poor.

I’ve had 4 pres from the forge but I’ve thrown a lot of gold into it to be fair. But I have noticed more ascended drops over the past few months.

My magic find is 198% and I’ve been playing for just over 2 years.

I do feel for players who have played since launch that have not got a great drop in that time, but please don’t give up! It will happen, just keep the faith :-)

HenleyLegoMan.4987:

Same with BL ticket scraps. I bought 12 keys and got 1 scrap and no full tickets while guildie gets 4 scraps AND a BL ticket from 5 BL chests. Which makes me question the increased drop rate of scraps that Anet implemented.

The truth is out there…

HenleyLegoMan.4987:

Same with BL ticket scraps. I bought 12 keys and got 1 scrap and no full tickets…

Ok, stop. Stop right there. Lets talk about WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

Drop rate for scraps is about 20%. That means average for 12 boxes is 2.2.

You came in ONE SCRAP below average. That’s totally normal. That’s not “bad luck”, that’s perfectly typical distribution.

Full tickets are more like 4%. Out of 12 boxes the average is .48. If you’d gotten one that would be the weird outcome. Not getting one is extremely normal.

That your friend got crazy lucky (ignoring the monumental sampling bias for a moment) does not mean that’s somehow the new average your results should be pivoting around.

Never gamble and you wont have problems with rng.
If there is a skin that you can acquire with rng. Forget about it.
Only go for things that you can acquire without rng or gamble.

Biohazard.7523:

Never gamble and you wont have problems with rng.
If there is a skin that you can acquire with rng. Forget about it.
Only go for things that you can acquire without rng or gamble.

yes still need teq skins and instead the things OP argue about you CANT buy them with farmed gold….

Most expensive drop i got in 3 years of playing was several months ago, torch presursor i sold for 85 gold. I gave up on hoping someday something expensive will drop. Ever. Since then i have lot more fun playing the game.

Oxidia.8103:

Most expensive drop i got in 3 years of playing was several months ago, torch presursor i sold for 85 gold. I gave up on hoping someday something expensive will drop. Ever. Since then i have lot more fun playing the game.

The funny part is that the price of the torch precursor (rodgort’s flame) went up quite a bit since torches were announced for warrior elite spec (berserker). XD

Truth is none of us are really lucky. Occasionally somebody hits the jackpot and then shouts it from the rooftops, we all hear then a week later we’re on here telling each other about some guys who were lucky and loads of people are lucky but not me. For all we know we’re all talking about the same people!

I’ve had some moderately lucky drops but nothing ever worth more than 30g and kitten few of those (I don’t count bl tickets as I farmed chests for the scraps). But only last week in map chat.... blah blah.

Work for what you get, forget about playing rng and one day IF you hit the jackpot you can be happy about it.

Oh and sometimes people copy the in game preview link from Wiki and ping it in map chat after a world event.

Dunno if it’s intentional or not… but before I hit 150% Magic Find, I got a gold drop about once every 3 months. After 150% I’ve been getting a gold drop about once every 3 weeks. (That was back when I was playing a few hours of PvE every day. I’ve dropped way off in my playing time and “gotten a life” somewhat this summer, so naturally the gold drops have fallen off again).

So Magic Find seems to have made a difference for me, although not in the way it is supposedly supposed to.

Other than that observation, I have always had poor luck with drops. Go ahead and step away from the game for awhile if you’re frustrated, OP. It won’t improve your luck, but you’ll be surprised how easy it is to actually live without it, especially with nothing new going on. I almost forgot how much I could accomplish in the real world, and it’s a good feeling to be free of the yoke of GW2 for awhile. I have much better luck outside of the game.

Rauven.3847:

Danikat.8537:

You mentioned black lion tickets as one of the good drops your friend got. Those only come from opening chests with keys, which leads to a (to my mind) obvious question: Has your friend been buying Black Lion Keys from the gem store? And if so how many has he bought and how does that compare to how many keys you buy/farm?

If your friend has spent $100 on keys and you never buy them and do 1 key run a week then it wouldn’t be at all surprising that he’s got more tickets than you. (And in that case would assume the other lucky drops also came from the chests.) It’s not that he’s got better luck, it’s simply that he’s had more tries than you.

This is the problem with discussing ‘luck’ and RNG in this game generally. Almost everyone looks at how much time they’ve spent playing (as total hours spent logged in and/or how long ago they got the game) and which drops stand out as exceptionally good in their memory.

There’s a huge amount of information missing from that. To take a hypothetical extreme if one person bought the game at launch, logged in, and never played but stayed logged in until today they’d have over 26,000 hours on their account and absolutely no drops at all. But that would have nothing at all to do with how ‘lucky’ they are(nt) or whether there is some sinister code flagging their account to get bad drops and everything to do with what they did in game, which would be nothing.

Obviously that’s an absurd extreme but exactly the same considerations are true for real play time. A person who got to level 80 as fast as they could and then spent most of their time farming world bosses, champ trains and silverwastes is likely to have far better drops than someone who took their time levelling up and then spends a lot of time afk or chatting in town, helping low level friends in starter maps, levelling alts etc. etc. and again that would have absolutely nothing to do with one person being ‘luckier’ than another – it’s simply that one has far more chances to encounter good drops as a result of how they choose to play.

The got the tickets with the keys you get from the character story.

Doing the personal story once all the way through gets you 3 keys. While it’s possible to get 2 tickets with only 3 keys, it’s not likely. A lot more likely is they bought tickets and are saying they didn’t for whatever reason.

Tenrai Senshi.2017:

Oxidia.8103:

Most expensive drop i got in 3 years of playing was several months ago, torch presursor i sold for 85 gold. I gave up on hoping someday something expensive will drop. Ever. Since then i have lot more fun playing the game.

The funny part is that the price of the torch precursor (rodgort’s flame) went up quite a bit since torches were announced for warrior elite spec (berserker). XD

I noticed that my friend well…story of my life ingame.
Did the same when i got southsun kesmeer while southsun events were created, sold her for 30 gold, now she’s 500ish. Eh.

Totally agree with the OP.

I have this game since release, have about the same hrs clocked and had the exact same experiences.

Actually in one ofmy guilds I had 1 person left GW2 after he got all precursors, another made tons of gold with precursors and left… now I’m in a new guild and again a guy here already ahs 7 pre’s and drops one randomly again in a dungeon just yesterday. Also you hear the frequency in which the usual suspects get random exo’s and see in comparison your loot over time quota. Hmmmmmyaa…..

How about Tequatl.. if I get a spoon I already consider myself lucky… other expensive drops? Only to the other guys in the champ runs and raids…. sigh

And I always try to stay unbiased and optimistic….

This actually is one reason I havent bought the expansion and seriously am thinking about doing so.

It’s kind of like :

GW2: “I dont like you.”
Me: “Ok. let me fork out some money so you can treat me like kittens in the future as well”

From my personal experience RNG must be broken somehow and ppl can say all day long what they want.. it wont change the experience of 3 yrs in GW2.

Sorry but as many said before its not bad rng you only hear about some few got good loot (or only ping chat codes!) and persuade by yourself that you have an bad luck account and the system is broken