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Posted by: Narrrz.7532

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If you converted karma into boosters, it was because you valued karma boosters at half or less the value of any other booster.
For a time, those boosters gave the option to select a karma buff. now they don’t. It’s presumably intentional, we just haven’t been given a reason.

This means that for a time, you were able to use boosters of another type as karma boosters, or use karma boosters as another type of booster at greatly reduced efficiency. You can still do the latter, there simply are fewer karma boosters around to convert. You can no longer do the former, but you were never given any guarantee that the converted boosters would always have all buffs available. With the 2 to 1 conversion from karma to enchanted, i always suspected something was up. ANet has every reason to think that the people who chose to convert at this rate had no use for their karma boosts and thus would have no complaint.

in short:
If you converted karma to enchanted and fully intended to use the enchanted as karma, you are a fool.
If you converted other boosters and intended to use them as karma, the opportunity to do that has passed.
If you used karma boosters as they were supposed to be used, then great! you got use out of them!

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Posted by: dsslive.8473

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Not sure i’m getting the “gemstore greed” angle since they took away 9 items and replaced them with 3, they also took away the combo pack and the communal fire. Wouldn’t having players by multiple boosters of different kinds (xp, wvwxp , pvp) be more profitable then selling boosters who are basically a type of “all-in-one” ?

I do miss the karma boosters and am unsure why those had to go (not that i rly ever used them anyway) But those boosters are still there (the ones ppl alrdy ahd), they didn’t take them away so, even if i had bought them, they’ve remained unchanged (unless i missed something) and thus i can still use them for the purpose i would have spent gems on them. the 1 hour karma boost is still in my bank, 17 of them, unchanged.

The one change they did make, that i’m not sure makes sense is take away karma boosts from the"enchanted rewards boost" so ppl who used the powder to save space did loose those if they changed karma ones into it.

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

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the gem sote greed angle is simple in order to push these new boosters on us they had to make the old ones seem useless coz lets face it if it wasent for these changes id still have 113 enchanted boosters with 1 hour duration of my choice
the new boosters dont realy bring anything new to the table that interests me i dont care if it spawns a merchant i have a perma merchant express
so me and many other players who stockpiled boosters have prety much no use for the new ones if they didnt nerff the old ones i could quite hapily continue to use the old ones at my leisure for the next year
so many player like me will not have any interest in these new ones
but nerff them to the point of allmost being useless and sudenly the new ones seem more appealing thus making them valuable and more likely to sell
if it had anything to do with just simply makeing a better boost what posible excuse could they have for messing with the old ones and plz remeber what i said for a lot of players these where potentialy bought with real life cash
in what economey any place in the world would this kinda behavior be accepted in the real world

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Posted by: Narrrz.7532

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i have a perma merchant express

many player like me

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Posted by: Narrrz.7532

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Just to reiterate my argument yet again, if you had 113 enchanted boosters purely from converting karma boosters, you have thrown away at least 113 karma boosters without using them for anything. you would literally rather have an empty inventory slot than a karma booster. What i take away from that is, “i will never select karma boost from the range of boosters offered”

if you had karma boosters, you still have them unless you have consumed or destroyed them. anet hasn’t taken anything away. they have only made it so you can no longer use the old style boosters as karma boosters. This was a service they offered for a time; it is a service they no longer offer.

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dsslive.8473

the gem sote greed angle is simple in order to push these new boosters on us they had to make the old ones seem useless coz lets face it if it wasent for these changes id still have 113 enchanted boosters with 1 hour duration of my choice
the new boosters dont realy bring anything new to the table that interests me i dont care if it spawns a merchant i have a perma merchant express
so me and many other players who stockpiled boosters have prety much no use for the new ones if they didnt nerff the old ones i could quite hapily continue to use the old ones at my leisure for the next year
so many player like me will not have any interest in these new ones
but nerff them to the point of allmost being useless and sudenly the new ones seem more appealing thus making them valuable and more likely to sell
if it had anything to do with just simply makeing a better boost what posible excuse could they have for messing with the old ones and plz remeber what i said for a lot of players these where potentialy bought with real life cash
in what economey any place in the world would this kinda behavior be accepted in the real world

But how are they pushing you to BUY the new ones? I get that they’re pushing the new ones amongst those enchanted boosters, but those aren’t bought, you alrdy have those. Am i missing something, coze i still don’t see the whole “gemstore greed”

I get that it sucks that they nerfed the old ones that are part of the enchanted thing, it sux. But i still don’t see how “greed” is involved.

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

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yes if we still have karma boosters if we still have them in the bank but your forgetting the nerff in duration if i bought a gem store item promising me 1 hour of karma buff that’s what i should get for my money i shouldn’t log in one day to find them nerffed like this

let me put it to you this way you go to the store buy a pack of chocolate biscuits containing 30 biscuits and go home and put them in your cupboard only to find the store owner has come in to your house and taken 20 biscuits back and telling you that hes selling new tastier biscuits
ok im just having a laugh with the biscuit analogy but its not much diff from this scenario
Anet has taken my biscuits

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Posted by: Narrrz.7532

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i still have a karma booster (i had an uneven number and couldn’t convert)
it still says 1hr duration.

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yes if we still have karma boosters if we still have them in the bank but your forgetting the nerff in duration if i bought a gem store item promising me 1 hour of karma buff that’s what i should get for my money i shouldn’t log in one day to find them nerffed like this

let me put it to you this way you go to the store buy a pack of chocolate biscuits containing 30 biscuits and go home and put them in your cupboard only to find the store owner has come in to your house and taken 20 biscuits back and telling you that hes selling new tastier biscuits
ok im just having a laugh with the biscuit analogy but its not much diff from this scenario
Anet has taken my biscuits

The duration was always 1 hour of the boosts no? coze for me they still say “1 hour”, so after checking my boosters in bank, i’m not really seeing a nerf. Or is the description not showing the real numbers?

Even the ones in the enchanted combo thingy still show 1 hour durations.

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Posted by: Narrrz.7532

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also, to carry your biscuit analogy further, It’s more like you were sold a token you can redeem at any time for a set number of biscuits. Sometime after you bought it, the seller altered the number of biscuits he gave out per token, and didn’t distinguish between tokens bought before then and tokens bought after, so the number of biscuits you were able to get was reduced.
…if indeed the number has been changed, and the tooltip not updated

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

But you can choose the old Experience Booster from the list that lasts 1 hour, or the new Experience Booster that includes many kinds of boosts for 20 minutes. Again, if you chose to exchange 2 Karma Boosters for 1 Karma boost on the list, you would have lost 50% of the time right there. The new Heroic Boosters last for 2 hours.

I didn’t exchange any of my Karma Boosters because it seemed like a loss of benefits. If you did, I’m sorry you chose that.

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Posted by: saalle.4623

saalle.4623

In GW2 you get max lvl and everything else so easy that i find boosters useless,in fact i trash them everytime i get them as FREE reword.
If you cant bother to play a game and get max lvl in 5 days then MMO is not for you.Karma boosters are useless since we dont need karma for anything,rest of boosts you can cower by food.
Most worthless items on shot – boosters.

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

dsslive.8473 it like i say my post is more related the actualy gem store sold ones that are now nerffed and less so much about the ehcnanted ones
as Narrrz.7532 says its a service they offerd and no longer offer
i don’t like it and many others don’t like it either tho there’s not much we can do about that its perfectly within Anet right to do so
but my main objection is to the nerffing of regular ones specifically the ones bought via the gem store
the duration is so short i just wont even bother to use them half the time or i will use them and forget to refresh often enough and just not get good use out of them
as i said if i paid real life cash for gems and bought what was promised to me as a 1 hour booster then 1 hour is what i should get changing it after players have purchased it is simply fraud in my opinion

the nerf in duration is just an attempt to deplete the availability of them so they run out sooner and we have to buy the new ones its total overkill in order to market the new ones

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

I’m lost. Where is the nerf? The new boosters last for 2 hours. The Enchanted Boosters give either a combo or elevated boost for 20 minutes (which means you would have to have used several of the other boosters at the same time for the same effect) or your choice of the old single use 1 hour boost.

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Posted by: Narrrz.7532

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The OP seems to think karma boosters have bee nerfed to no longer last an hour.
Just for the sake of clearing this all up, i grabbed that karma booster from my bank.

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

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i noticed there was a small update last night mebey they changed it back to the 1 hour duration
cant find any patch notes