Guild Wars 2

why the apparent hate towards small guild anet? i guild with a small number of friends and we very seldomly are on at the same time due to our schedules. with the current system we will never be able to do missions or get a guild hall. seems a shame that small guilds will never be able to see any of that content since we cant level up the guild. something, anything, for 1-2 people to do would be nice even if the gains were tiny compared to the 3-15 man missions. id cheerfully do some pve hunting or crafting supply dailies for a few measly points of favor if it meant someday we could get a guild hall

Ask someone(s) if they will help you acquire a Guild Hall? Many players have done just that. Do the Guild Missions that require only 1 and/or only 2 players? Again, many players do so.

Good luck.

At least some missions you can complete. 1 target bounties, 5 target treks and all races are doable for you.

Guild hall indeed is bigger problem. Guess you could ask/hire some people to help you to claim one. People have been doing it with just one full group.

Yeah, they said they would support small guilds then just utterly snubbed them. Poor decision imo.

Hi I’m upgrading my bank guild with a friend and whilst it is hard its not impossible.

We claimed our guild hall with three people, we couldn’t quite do it ourselves(But I’m sure its doable) but a third tipped the balance and made it easy.

Single target bounties, any guild race(Just turn up when a big guild is doing it and complete one run) and 5 target guild treks allow you to build up favor easily enough. All of these you can do solo.

The rest is all money.

Give me a message in game if you want an extra hand taking the guild hall or ask in Lion’s Arch for volunteers.

Good luck

Our guild has 2-5 active active members. We have a level 40 Hall with further exploration right now, so small guilds aren;t shut out.

That said, it was quite the grind to get all the stuff for it and the Hall is just way to big to be relevant for us, but it has some sense of achievement behind it at least.

A friend and I have a level 34 guild hall that we’ve built almost entirely on our own through relaxed gameplay. We used the LFG tool to assemble a group of 5 to claim the GH shortly after HoT was released and have been slowly building it up ever since.

Several of the guild missions are doable with one or two players. Several others, like guild races, can be done by only one active guild member. Head to the guild race starting flag and hang out until a different guild starts the race, then start your mission and begin the race. As long as the race is completed 15 times for the event you will get credit for completion. It could be one player (you alone) running the race path 15 times on your own, or it could be three players (you and two randoms) each running it 5 times—it makes no difference. (Note: You must complete the race at least once for you and your guild to receive credit)

Using these methods, after a few weeks you’ll easily max out your guild favor and from there it’s pretty easy to upkeep by simply doing the easy missions each week (like guild trek or easy bounty).

Claiming the GH is the most “difficult” part of the process but using the LFG tool, even that shouldn’t take you too long. If you’re having trouble getting players to assist, you could incentivize it by offering 1g to all participants upon GH claiming completion. That’s what we did, and we got a group almost immediately (though this was at the height of the HoT release so it may take a bit longer these days).

Good luck. You’ve got this!

I’ve participated in 4 guild hall claimings for guilds I’m quite active in, 2 from small guilds (4-5 people) and 2 from large guilds (30+). From my experience both small guilds completed it easily without failing but large guilds get mess up as vines tend to spawn more with numbers. In the end both small guilds got through in one go whereas large guilds got through after 2 or 3 tries.

To me the more difficult part for small guilds would be afterward where you try to upgrades the guild hall. Do expect to spend couple thousands of golds or hours on upgrade and decorations. Its a long process and you either need good friends to chip in or have someone say goodbye to legendaries.

If you want to succeed in claiming your guild hall, take a group of 7 to 9 people. More than this will scale up the event, less that this will lessen your chance of success.

I would pitch this strongly to your guild mates. It’s a one time thing, then you’ll have a guild hall. Get as many of them as you can, try to PUG the rest from LFG. You might also post on the Player Helping Players forum.(If you do, be sure to tell them whether you’re Europe or North American region.) Gilded Hollow is easier to claim with a small group.(it is less spread out) And IMO, it also has a more convenient layout.

Once you have claimed the guild hall(or even before) 50 gold for each will get you a repair anvil, and a merchant. This is a large part of the convenience of a guild hall, and you don’t even have to do any guild missions for it. The next biggest convenience is bank access, which will require the scribing crafting station. And that will take some investment. (wiki guild hall upgrades) But once you have that, you have most of what you go to town for.

As for the guild events, try to get at least 3 people(total) and do the easy ones. If you do the easy bounties, you’ll get the same 3 over and over. Use the dulfy guide or wiki until you have the map and route for those 3 memorized. Call out in map chat about the bounty, and you’ll often have help.

For the treks, do the easy ones, and use the dulfy guide or the wiki.

For the rushes – if another guild has started one, you can start yours and so long as you can get enough people through(your total combined with theirs) your guild gets credit.

It isn’t easy. But you can get the basic stuff you need without it being too unpleasant. The various wiki pages and dulfy guides are invaluable resources. Look up guild upgrades on the wiki and plan out what you need and what you want. Then work on a plan to get there. It isn’t like it was in the previous Guild Wars games, but it’s doable.

I’m not sure why a guild with 2-5 active members that don’t even play at the same time, wouldn’t join a larger guild in the first place and just play as they are now, without actually having a “guild” per se.

Vayne.8563:

I’m not sure why a guild with 2-5 active members that don’t even play at the same time, wouldn’t join a larger guild in the first place and just play as they are now, without actually having a “guild” per se.

There’s something rewarding about building up a guild from the ground up with a small group of personal friends. Also, there’s nothing stopping these folks from having their own guild and also being a part of larger guilds. That’s the beauty of GW2, you can have it both ways.

That’s what I do.

Small guild is not equivalent to tiny guild. Your’s a tiny guild.

drunkenpilot.9837:

Vayne.8563:

I’m not sure why a guild with 2-5 active members that don’t even play at the same time, wouldn’t join a larger guild in the first place and just play as they are now, without actually having a “guild” per se.

There’s something rewarding about building up a guild from the ground up with a small group of personal friends. Also, there’s nothing stopping these folks from having their own guild and also being a part of larger guilds. That’s the beauty of GW2, you can have it both ways.

That’s what I do.

You’d have to be pretty dedicated. I guess I see the guild hall as something more utilitarian. I don’t spend a huge amount of time in it.

Fortunately, we have a guy in our guild who loves building in it and he has pretty much free reign to do whatever he wants…he’s made it his personal playground and everyone else just enjoys it.

For me, it’s a place to gather, buff up, sell and get back to the game.

Captured the GH with 5. We are currently lv67. Favor is literally the least important thing. More important is having lots of stuff or enough gold to buy that stuff. You should definitely browse through the items used for upgrades and make a note of them. Especially the account bound things like Silverwastes Shovels.

In addition to the missions people have mentioned Blightwater Shatterstrike and Branded for Termination guild challenges can also be done with a small number of people. In fact for Blightwater Shatterstrike doing it with a small amount of people is much easier than a big group. The coordination is less of an issue and the mobs aren’t scaled up to deal stupid amounts of damage.

I am part of a small/medium guild and we have a maxed guild hall. I also have my own personal guild that I acquired a completed guild bank before guild halls.

A few weeks ago, I decided to get my own guild hall for ease of getting into my guild bank without having to lose my place in the map I was in. My guildmates from my larger guild helped me acquire my GH.

I don’t plan on doing a lot of upgrades in my personal GH, but even alone I know I could do things over times. I know several people who have done just that.

Jaxom.7310:

u should understand, if i can do it, you should be able to do. maybe you need moar friends? or maybe you just need to git gud. either way, this is gw2 an mmo, not a 2 player co-op game. if you don’t like it, find another game. if u do like it, well, thats fine too, either way, doesn’t change anything for mi

just don’t cry to change my game, u need to change the way u play, not the other way around

That’s not advice, that’s being snide and hateful.

The OP came on looking for answers not to be treated with disdain. Many people have similar concerns. It doesn’t mean that their concerns are unfounded. Not all people have the time, temerity or ability to do the things like you may do. This is supposed to be a game played easily by the casual or pro player. His question is valid.

DoctorDing.5890:

Yeah, they said they would support small guilds then just utterly snubbed them.

From one of the dev quotes around the time the guild missions went in it seems that they consider a guild with around 50 members to be small.

So, basically, yeah, they completely ignore the real small guilds. Maybe they’re not even aware those exist.

jheryn.8390:

I am part of a small/medium guild and we have a maxed guild hall. I also have my own personal guild that I acquired a completed guild bank before guild halls.

A few weeks ago, I decided to get my own guild hall for ease of getting into my guild bank without having to lose my place in the map I was in. My guildmates from my larger guild helped me acquire my GH.

I don’t plan on doing a lot of upgrades in my personal GH, but even alone I know I could do things over times. I know several people who have done just that.

But people want to one step to completion and forgot that no one is force to build a village with facilities designed for village-sized populations.

If want to build village facilities then pay for it. Sad, I don’ understand nowadays people.

SkyShroud.2865:

jheryn.8390:

I am part of a small/medium guild and we have a maxed guild hall. I also have my own personal guild that I acquired a completed guild bank before guild halls.

A few weeks ago, I decided to get my own guild hall for ease of getting into my guild bank without having to lose my place in the map I was in. My guildmates from my larger guild helped me acquire my GH.

I don’t plan on doing a lot of upgrades in my personal GH, but even alone I know I could do things over times. I know several people who have done just that.

But people want to one step to completion and forgot that no one is force to build a village with facilities designed for village-sized populations.

If want to build village facilities then pay for it. Sad, I don’ understand nowadays people.

I get what you are saying, but it doesn’t address the OP’s original post or the way the guy I quoted replied to the OP.

They OP isn’t saying he wants it handed to him on a platter. He is just saying that is beyond painfully difficult for someone like him to do anything with his guild as it is main just him and very occasionally a friend.

jheryn.8390:

They OP isn’t saying he wants it handed to him on a platter. He is just saying that is beyond painfully difficult for someone like him to do anything with his guild as it is main just him and very occasionally a friend.

The OP and others in this thread may personally feel that it is “beyond painfully difficult” to “do anything with his guild” but that’s simply not true. As myself and others have pointed out, it isn’t that difficult to make good progress on your guild hall. Many missions are soloable, and the only ‘difficult’ point would be the amount of materials that are needed for certain GH upgrades. This isn’t a roadblock so much as it is a speed limit. You’re only going to make as much progress on guild unlocks as the time and effort you put into it.

Myself and many others have made significant progress on their guild halls with only one or two people donating materials. Is it expensive? Sure. But there are lots of ways to make gold in this game, and if you truly want to upgrade your guild hall on your own or with only one or two friends, you should expect that it’s going to be a slower process than if you had 50 other players contributing.

drunkenpilot.9837:

jheryn.8390:

They OP isn’t saying he wants it handed to him on a platter. He is just saying that is beyond painfully difficult for someone like him to do anything with his guild as it is main just him and very occasionally a friend.

The OP and others in this thread may personally feel that it is “beyond painfully difficult” to “do anything with his guild” but that’s simply not true. As myself and others have pointed out, it isn’t that difficult to make good progress on your guild hall. Many missions are soloable, and the only ‘difficult’ point would be the amount of materials that are needed for certain GH upgrades. This isn’t a roadblock so much as it is a speed limit. You’re only going to make as much progress on guild unlocks as the time and effort you put into it.

Myself and many others have made significant progress on their guild halls with only one or two people donating materials. Is it expensive? Sure. But there are lots of ways to make gold in this game, and if you truly want to upgrade your guild hall on your own or with only one or two friends, you should expect that it’s going to be a slower process than if you had 50 other players contributing.

Another factor is that the guild with 200 might only have around the same number of people contributing as the one with 5.

I finally decided to go ahead and claim a guild hall for personal use, mostly for the WvW buffs and enhancements. I used the LFG tool to get a party together and 4 awesome people joined and helped me claim it. Favor hasn’t been an issue because there are a few guild missions that I can accomplish on my own, which other people have mentioned above. I had already hoarded a ton of materials so that’s been a huge help for me so far.

I think I’m around guild rank 10 now and I have almost everything in the guild bank maxed out so as my aetherium slooooooowly builds up I can keep upgrading everything.

My biggest challenge will be PvP potions since I don’t play that game mode, but I’m aware of the daily rooms and I’ve heard that you can also “buy” PvP potions from people by adding them to the guild, having them donate the potions, and then paying them.

My only complaint has been the size of the guild halls. I have Lost Precipice, which seems really awesome, especially for very large guilds (make your own house, etc.), but I would love a small keep, or village, or some other small hall where everything was just more densely packed. Same buffs and difficulty to upgrade, just physically smaller.

Khisanth.2948:

drunkenpilot.9837:

jheryn.8390:

They OP isn’t saying he wants it handed to him on a platter. He is just saying that is beyond painfully difficult for someone like him to do anything with his guild as it is main just him and very occasionally a friend.

The OP and others in this thread may personally feel that it is “beyond painfully difficult” to “do anything with his guild” but that’s simply not true. As myself and others have pointed out, it isn’t that difficult to make good progress on your guild hall. Many missions are soloable, and the only ‘difficult’ point would be the amount of materials that are needed for certain GH upgrades. This isn’t a roadblock so much as it is a speed limit. You’re only going to make as much progress on guild unlocks as the time and effort you put into it.

Myself and many others have made significant progress on their guild halls with only one or two people donating materials. Is it expensive? Sure. But there are lots of ways to make gold in this game, and if you truly want to upgrade your guild hall on your own or with only one or two friends, you should expect that it’s going to be a slower process than if you had 50 other players contributing.

Another factor is that the guild with 200 might only have around the same number of people contributing as the one with 5.

Khisanth, “might” is the big word in your phrase. I believe you are probably right in many cases. In some cases, like my guild with around 50 regular players when we built our GH, giving was very generous. Not always the case, but for some it is easier.

I am also am one of those drunkenpilot. My personal guild is still at the beggining stages, but I am working on it. I also don’t care how long or fast it takes to build up.

We don’t know the OP’s situation, however. For him/her it may indeed be beyond painfully difficult to do. We don’t know what the OP’s situation(s) are. So while I agree that even one person can make significant progress on a GH, I don’t think it is fair to assume that others have the same time and advantages we do.

One thing I think we can both agree on is that with one person it isn’t easy or inexpensive to do. What is a challenge for us, my be insurmountable for others.