[suggestion] Make warrior shield viable

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Posted by: Hitman.5829

Hitman.5829

The warrior shield’s only purpose is to BLOCK attacks, however, due to the extensive list of unblockable skills, the shield is absolutely useless. It is perhaps the most useless skill in the entire gaming universe ever created.

It makes no sense whatsoever to make something block attacks that are unblockable. It is an OXYMORON.

Please rework the warrior shield, make it give stability,protection, retaliation,healing, or something else because the current state of the shield is absolutely crap considering the list of unblock-able skills and traits.

EDIT: beware, lots of thieves, elemental and engineers will say the shield does not need a rework because they have the most unblockable stuff.

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Posted by: Hoaxintelligence.4628

Hoaxintelligence.4628

You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.

Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.

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Posted by: JemL.3501

JemL.3501

dont forget the 200 range or 300? stun which you can use as move faster because it will be blocked

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

I didn’t realize that shield bash was used as a block. The list of unblockable attacks is actually pretty small if you think about how many skills are in the game, and of the skills on that list, quite a few of them only the conditions applied are unblockable.

In game that list feels much larger however due to skills like Signet of Might and Phase traversal which make all of your attacks unblockable for some time. And the worst offenders are traits that make attacks unblockable (Signet Mastery, Malicious Reprisal and Soul Marks). I do think that we have too many traits and skills which make attacks unblockable currently, and wouldn’t mind seeing some durations reduced by 1 second, and some traits changed along with whatever re-balancing that would require. But the list of straight unblockable attacks seems fine to me as it is, maybe one or two skills could be removed but I don’t think they need to be.

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Posted by: Alec B.8905

Alec B.8905

every warrior uses shield…is this post a joke post? for real. warrior shield is needed for every build pretty much. it has not Not been viable.

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Posted by: Hitman.5829

Hitman.5829

You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.

Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.

You need to read the wiki. The unblockable attacks are that UNBLOCKABLE! You cannot block them with the shield. Currently, the shield #5 has only one purpose which is to block attacks, but due to the extensive list of unblockable attacks, the shield is absolutely useless specially if you do pvp or wvw.

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Posted by: Joshhh.2076

Joshhh.2076

You also have a dodge key, 2 immunities to direct damage, access to resistance, decent toughness and HP even when full zerk, and plenty of regen.

And, as others have pointed out, shield also gives you a lowish-cooldown stun and a reflect as well as block, not to mention free might for every attack you do block (spoiler: some attacks are still blockable).

If you’re struggling, you’re getting countered or outplayed.

Gandaran.

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Posted by: troy.3257

troy.3257

I like using the shield on my warrior. Only thing i think it may need is a shorter cool down.

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Posted by: LouWolfskin.3492

LouWolfskin.3492

You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.

Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.

You need to read the wiki. The unblockable attacks are that UNBLOCKABLE! You cannot block them with the shield. Currently, the shield #5 has only one purpose which is to block attacks, but due to the extensive list of unblockable attacks, the shield is absolutely useless specially if you do pvp or wvw.

Excessive? How many attacks are really unblockable? oô

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Posted by: The Dervish.7384

The Dervish.7384

If someone give him “one hit kill button” I’m sure he do not want that shield change..

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.

Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.

You need to read the wiki. The unblockable attacks are that UNBLOCKABLE! You cannot block them with the shield. Currently, the shield #5 has only one purpose which is to block attacks, but due to the extensive list of unblockable attacks, the shield is absolutely useless specially if you do pvp or wvw.

Excessive? How many attacks are really unblockable? oô

If you have an unblockable buff, any.

I can appreciate the rant, shield is tied very strongly to the defensive trait line. If you don’t run that for some odd reason, the shield is kinda bland. Not really sure there is an appropriate way to buff it without making those who do run defensive trait line unstoppable monsters.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

I like using the shield on my warrior. Only thing i think it may need is a shorter cool down.

There is a trait for that :P

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Posted by: LouWolfskin.3492

LouWolfskin.3492

You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.

Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.

You need to read the wiki. The unblockable attacks are that UNBLOCKABLE! You cannot block them with the shield. Currently, the shield #5 has only one purpose which is to block attacks, but due to the extensive list of unblockable attacks, the shield is absolutely useless specially if you do pvp or wvw.

Excessive? How many attacks are really unblockable? oô

If you have an unblockable buff, any.

I can appreciate the rant, shield is tied very strongly to the defensive trait line. If you don’t run that for some odd reason, the shield is kinda bland. Not really sure there is an appropriate way to buff it without making those who do run defensive trait line unstoppable monsters.

The thing is, who has those buffs? On the top of my head i can list three classes Thief with Basilisk Venom, Warrior with Signet of Might and Reaper with a shout.

Yes, there are more single attacks that are unblockable, or become unblockable via a trait but honestly i don’t see warriors being surpresed by it. They still have physical immunity and a stance for 12 seconds of resistance and extra-adrenaline.
Here’s the thing: You can’t just go by what the shield does, sure, it may look like something that needs more without it’s trait but it is already strong and with other skills combined even stronger.
If you start buffing the shield you’d have to detract other skills to keep a certain amount of balance in-class.

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Posted by: OriOri.8724

OriOri.8724

Rev also has a skill that makes their attacks unblockable for 5(?) seconds, and Ranger has a skill that does so as well but I think its just bugged? And both Rev and Warrior have traits that activate these skills passively, which is honestly too much. We shouldn’t have traits that make all of your attacks unblockable, especially if they are passive procs.

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unblockable

there is actually quite a lot of unblockable skills and unblockable buffs. I’m not saying shield should be buffed or anything, just that I can appreciate what the OP means by shield stance being quite vulnerable if not backed by stability.

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Posted by: Conncept.7638

Conncept.7638

Is it just me or are the majority of those unblockable skills ground targeted? That’s part of the mechanic, why would shielding in a direction block something coming from the ground beneath you?

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Posted by: Cheifcaptian Moroni.1629

Cheifcaptian Moroni.1629

I think the only change on Warrior shield would be how much damage it does to break bars… it doesn’t do like anything.

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Posted by: Stand The Wall.6987

Stand The Wall.6987

warrior shield is one of the most powerful offhands available.

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Posted by: LucosTheDutch.4819

LucosTheDutch.4819

Warrior is already OP and shield is already the most OP offhand for warrior in GW2 PvP/WvW. Lets not make the warrior and shield even more OP please.

I’d gladly trade your warrior shield skills for my guardian shield skills. Shield on guard is nice, but shield on warrior is so much better, lol.

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Posted by: LucosTheDutch.4819

LucosTheDutch.4819

PS: This thread is the perfect excuse to dig up one of my favorite GW2 videos on YouTube:

Now quit your whining OP. :’)

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Posted by: troy.3257

troy.3257

I like using the shield on my warrior. Only thing i think it may need is a shorter cool down.

There is a trait for that :P

I know, i use it but it still seems a tad long.

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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

Lahmia.2193

Warrior is already OP and shield is already the most OP offhand for warrior in GW2 PvP/WvW. Lets not make the warrior and shield even more OP please.

I’d gladly trade your warrior shield skills for my guardian shield skills. Shield on guard is nice, but shield on warrior is so much better, lol.

Whenever we see a warrior, in wvw, running into a tower and tanking all the damage with blocks/resistance/damage immunity, I always imagine the warrior saying “It’s all skill, I swear.”

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Posted by: emikochan.8504

emikochan.8504

“shield useless in pvp”

HAHA!

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Posted by: Tumult.2578

Tumult.2578

You might have gotten a broader view if this was posted in the Warrior Forum. I don’t disagree with most of the comments but I suspect our Devs could use a few tips from Captain America now that we’ve seen what can be done with a shield…