(edited by Hitman.5829)
[suggestion] Make warrior shield viable
You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.
Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.
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dont forget the 200 range or 300? stun which you can use as move faster because it will be blocked
I didn’t realize that shield bash was used as a block. The list of unblockable attacks is actually pretty small if you think about how many skills are in the game, and of the skills on that list, quite a few of them only the conditions applied are unblockable.
In game that list feels much larger however due to skills like Signet of Might and Phase traversal which make all of your attacks unblockable for some time. And the worst offenders are traits that make attacks unblockable (Signet Mastery, Malicious Reprisal and Soul Marks). I do think that we have too many traits and skills which make attacks unblockable currently, and wouldn’t mind seeing some durations reduced by 1 second, and some traits changed along with whatever re-balancing that would require. But the list of straight unblockable attacks seems fine to me as it is, maybe one or two skills could be removed but I don’t think they need to be.
every warrior uses shield…is this post a joke post? for real. warrior shield is needed for every build pretty much. it has not Not been viable.
You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.
You need to read the wiki. The unblockable attacks are that UNBLOCKABLE! You cannot block them with the shield. Currently, the shield #5 has only one purpose which is to block attacks, but due to the extensive list of unblockable attacks, the shield is absolutely useless specially if you do pvp or wvw.
You also have a dodge key, 2 immunities to direct damage, access to resistance, decent toughness and HP even when full zerk, and plenty of regen.
And, as others have pointed out, shield also gives you a lowish-cooldown stun and a reflect as well as block, not to mention free might for every attack you do block (spoiler: some attacks are still blockable).
If you’re struggling, you’re getting countered or outplayed.
I like using the shield on my warrior. Only thing i think it may need is a shorter cool down.
You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.
You need to read the wiki. The unblockable attacks are that UNBLOCKABLE! You cannot block them with the shield. Currently, the shield #5 has only one purpose which is to block attacks, but due to the extensive list of unblockable attacks, the shield is absolutely useless specially if you do pvp or wvw.
Excessive? How many attacks are really unblockable? oô
If someone give him “one hit kill button” I’m sure he do not want that shield change..
You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.
You need to read the wiki. The unblockable attacks are that UNBLOCKABLE! You cannot block them with the shield. Currently, the shield #5 has only one purpose which is to block attacks, but due to the extensive list of unblockable attacks, the shield is absolutely useless specially if you do pvp or wvw.
Excessive? How many attacks are really unblockable? oô
If you have an unblockable buff, any.
I can appreciate the rant, shield is tied very strongly to the defensive trait line. If you don’t run that for some odd reason, the shield is kinda bland. Not really sure there is an appropriate way to buff it without making those who do run defensive trait line unstoppable monsters.
I like using the shield on my warrior. Only thing i think it may need is a shorter cool down.
There is a trait for that :P
You cannot ask for a shieldbuff Just because you cant handle unblockable attacks.
Warrior can also do unblockable attacks lol.Shield is fine though. I Block attacks, shoot back projectiles, CC the enemy with my shield, and also gain allot of might from my shield. Learn to play warrior.
You need to read the wiki. The unblockable attacks are that UNBLOCKABLE! You cannot block them with the shield. Currently, the shield #5 has only one purpose which is to block attacks, but due to the extensive list of unblockable attacks, the shield is absolutely useless specially if you do pvp or wvw.
Excessive? How many attacks are really unblockable? oô
If you have an unblockable buff, any.
I can appreciate the rant, shield is tied very strongly to the defensive trait line. If you don’t run that for some odd reason, the shield is kinda bland. Not really sure there is an appropriate way to buff it without making those who do run defensive trait line unstoppable monsters.
The thing is, who has those buffs? On the top of my head i can list three classes Thief with Basilisk Venom, Warrior with Signet of Might and Reaper with a shout.
Yes, there are more single attacks that are unblockable, or become unblockable via a trait but honestly i don’t see warriors being surpresed by it. They still have physical immunity and a stance for 12 seconds of resistance and extra-adrenaline.
Here’s the thing: You can’t just go by what the shield does, sure, it may look like something that needs more without it’s trait but it is already strong and with other skills combined even stronger.
If you start buffing the shield you’d have to detract other skills to keep a certain amount of balance in-class.
Rev also has a skill that makes their attacks unblockable for 5(?) seconds, and Ranger has a skill that does so as well but I think its just bugged? And both Rev and Warrior have traits that activate these skills passively, which is honestly too much. We shouldn’t have traits that make all of your attacks unblockable, especially if they are passive procs.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unblockable
there is actually quite a lot of unblockable skills and unblockable buffs. I’m not saying shield should be buffed or anything, just that I can appreciate what the OP means by shield stance being quite vulnerable if not backed by stability.
Is it just me or are the majority of those unblockable skills ground targeted? That’s part of the mechanic, why would shielding in a direction block something coming from the ground beneath you?
I think the only change on Warrior shield would be how much damage it does to break bars… it doesn’t do like anything.
warrior shield is one of the most powerful offhands available.
Warrior is already OP and shield is already the most OP offhand for warrior in GW2 PvP/WvW. Lets not make the warrior and shield even more OP please.
I’d gladly trade your warrior shield skills for my guardian shield skills. Shield on guard is nice, but shield on warrior is so much better, lol.
PS: This thread is the perfect excuse to dig up one of my favorite GW2 videos on YouTube:
Now quit your whining OP. :’)
I like using the shield on my warrior. Only thing i think it may need is a shorter cool down.
There is a trait for that :P
I know, i use it but it still seems a tad long.
Warrior is already OP and shield is already the most OP offhand for warrior in GW2 PvP/WvW. Lets not make the warrior and shield even more OP please.
I’d gladly trade your warrior shield skills for my guardian shield skills. Shield on guard is nice, but shield on warrior is so much better, lol.
Whenever we see a warrior, in wvw, running into a tower and tanking all the damage with blocks/resistance/damage immunity, I always imagine the warrior saying “It’s all skill, I swear.”
“shield useless in pvp”
HAHA!
You might have gotten a broader view if this was posted in the Warrior Forum. I don’t disagree with most of the comments but I suspect our Devs could use a few tips from Captain America now that we’ve seen what can be done with a shield…