Guild Wars 2

is the tower permanent content?

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

Hopefully some servers are slow. I gave up trying today :P

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

so pretty much………keep it alive or they take away our only real interesting content update? yea ok thats great, not. to me thats disrespectful, i’d let the heart die on every server if i could just to send them a message like “dont taunt us”.

Adry.7512:

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

so pretty much………keep it alive or they take away our only real interesting content update? yea ok thats great, not. to me thats disrespectful, i’d let the heart die on every server if i could just to send them a message like “dont taunt us”.

What do you not get about a living world if some one dose something and if there is any true meaning to it then it MUST changes something. The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that. This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.

i wonder if some servers will get bored of it and then just let it sits there.

then they silently kills it in the background.

or if it will repair itself if no one is killing it.

then they introduce new rewards for killing the tower.

etc

Jski.6180:

Adry.7512:

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

so pretty much………keep it alive or they take away our only real interesting content update? yea ok thats great, not. to me thats disrespectful, i’d let the heart die on every server if i could just to send them a message like “dont taunt us”.

What do you not get about a living world if some one dose something and if there is any true meaning to it then it MUST changes something. The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that. This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.

not to be a jerk but let me destroy everything you just said.

“The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that” ok so….keep resetting the same content we have now with the exception that now u are FORCED to continue doin it all the time or the tower content dies. gg

“This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.” ok so….lets all get very cheap poorly thought-out content that is only around for a short time and even for big content like the tower of nightmares, lets ALL let it die after a few months cause we expect big content like this regularly and screw players who want to start playing again and find no content around cause we all want our content to just DIE. therefore you are pro for temporary content? yea no thnx

Adry.7512:

once again arenanet…..very BAD idea….enjoy ur nr1 tittle for 2012….because you will never and i mean never in your life be in even a top3 official tier of any year ever again. its simple, none of you have the cognition to make a good game actually stay….good, period….very sorry, but you dont.

instead of probably taking down this comment or thread, try to take into consideration the fact that you fell off in less than a year of your “nr1” game being out. take it to heart, because you deserve it.

What? A little incoherent rage goes a long way.

Adry.7512:

Jski.6180:

Adry.7512:

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

so pretty much………keep it alive or they take away our only real interesting content update? yea ok thats great, not. to me thats disrespectful, i’d let the heart die on every server if i could just to send them a message like “dont taunt us”.

What do you not get about a living world if some one dose something and if there is any true meaning to it then it MUST changes something. The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that. This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.

not to be a jerk but let me destroy everything you just said.

“The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that” ok so….keep resetting the same content we have now with the exception that now u are FORCED to continue doin it all the time or the tower content dies. gg

“This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.” ok so….lets all get very cheap poorly thought-out content that is only around for a short time and even for big content like the tower of nightmares, lets ALL let it die after a few months cause we expect big content like this regularly and screw players who want to start playing again and find no content around cause we all want our content to just DIE. therefore you are pro for temporary content? yea no thnx

The thing is if you just simply reset every thing you do once you done it in a game where you do not have progression then what IS the point? In mmorpg you where reward for farming endlessly with better gear so you could fight harder mobs in GW2 you do not have this. So GW2 is story driven for the story to feel real to the players you need to have some mean full outcome to the player action. If you just simply have something start over once you complete it then the meaning is removed.

That is more of a players and your own problem you must deal with. If you feel that you must complete every thing 100% why are you able to waist your time playing a video game? How can you not complete every thing in real life that is a great deal more time limited then any thing in this game? If you play this game or any game purely to complete it then you have comply missed the point of playing a GAME.

Jski.6180:

Adry.7512:

Jski.6180:

Adry.7512:

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

so pretty much………keep it alive or they take away our only real interesting content update? yea ok thats great, not. to me thats disrespectful, i’d let the heart die on every server if i could just to send them a message like “dont taunt us”.

What do you not get about a living world if some one dose something and if there is any true meaning to it then it MUST changes something. The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that. This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.

not to be a jerk but let me destroy everything you just said.

“The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that” ok so….keep resetting the same content we have now with the exception that now u are FORCED to continue doin it all the time or the tower content dies. gg

“This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.” ok so….lets all get very cheap poorly thought-out content that is only around for a short time and even for big content like the tower of nightmares, lets ALL let it die after a few months cause we expect big content like this regularly and screw players who want to start playing again and find no content around cause we all want our content to just DIE. therefore you are pro for temporary content? yea no thnx

The thing is if you just simply reset every thing you do once you done it in a game where you do not have progression then what IS the point? In mmorpg you where reward for farming endlessly with better gear so you could fight harder mobs in GW2 you do not have this. So GW2 is story driven for the story to feel real to the players you need to have some mean full outcome to the player action. If you just simply have something start over once you complete it then the meaning is removed.

That is more of a players and your own problem you must deal with. If you feel that you must complete every thing 100% why are you able to waist your time playing a video game? How can you not complete every thing in real life that is a great deal more time limited then any thing in this game? If you play this game or any game purely to complete it then you have comply missed the point of playing a GAME.

i am not talkin about better gear. i think gear grinding is dumb. instead…..they should replace it with costumes and so on, but temporary content is dumb

Adry.7512:

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

so pretty much………keep it alive or they take away our only real interesting content update? yea ok thats great, not. to me thats disrespectful, i’d let the heart die on every server if i could just to send them a message like “dont taunt us”.

They will not be “taking it away” – this one is totally on the players. Our actions will destroy the Tower zone.

Think about that for a minute. Players. Destroying. Zones. In an MMO.

Adry.7512:

Jski.6180:

Adry.7512:

Jski.6180:

Adry.7512:

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

so pretty much………keep it alive or they take away our only real interesting content update? yea ok thats great, not. to me thats disrespectful, i’d let the heart die on every server if i could just to send them a message like “dont taunt us”.

What do you not get about a living world if some one dose something and if there is any true meaning to it then it MUST changes something. The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that. This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.

not to be a jerk but let me destroy everything you just said.

“The old way is to just reset something over and over and over never changing all your work means nothing in mmorpgs like that” ok so….keep resetting the same content we have now with the exception that now u are FORCED to continue doin it all the time or the tower content dies. gg

“This way there is room for something new every time and not to have old rotting content that in the end no one will play after a few months of it being out.” ok so….lets all get very cheap poorly thought-out content that is only around for a short time and even for big content like the tower of nightmares, lets ALL let it die after a few months cause we expect big content like this regularly and screw players who want to start playing again and find no content around cause we all want our content to just DIE. therefore you are pro for temporary content? yea no thnx

The thing is if you just simply reset every thing you do once you done it in a game where you do not have progression then what IS the point? In mmorpg you where reward for farming endlessly with better gear so you could fight harder mobs in GW2 you do not have this. So GW2 is story driven for the story to feel real to the players you need to have some mean full outcome to the player action. If you just simply have something start over once you complete it then the meaning is removed.

That is more of a players and your own problem you must deal with. If you feel that you must complete every thing 100% why are you able to waist your time playing a video game? How can you not complete every thing in real life that is a great deal more time limited then any thing in this game? If you play this game or any game purely to complete it then you have comply missed the point of playing a GAME.

i am not talkin about better gear. i think gear grinding is dumb. instead…..they should replace it with costumes and so on, but temporary content is dumb

Your missing the point comply when you have a new event in other mmorpg ppl play them mostly for the new loot and the progression of gear. When you do not have this gear or progression you must have another reason to get ppl to want to do it. You give them a story with an begging mid and ending. If the story just simply repeats over and over the story lose is impact to the player. To give a story a real ending as in “yes you are changing the world in a meaningful way by doing this” makes the story all the more richer. That is the different between being a passive player in story that will start a new every time you finished it to a more active player of a story that will end when you finish it.

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

Wich intrigues me, becouse if it works like that way means theres no overflows for the tower?

No overflows is a very good thing for LS, if it is true Anet is really learning.

Aeolus.3615:

Karizee.8076:

According to the patch notes:

The Tower of Nightmares content will be available until the tower’s heart is destroyed. Watch the progress as more antitoxin is injected!

So the Tower will survive as long as players on each server allow it. This means that the Tower could be destroyed on some servers but still up on others. Truly dynamic content, this

Wich intrigues me, becouse if it works like that way means theres no overflows for the tower?

No overflows is a very good thing for LS, if it is true Anet is really learning.

I have been in lots of overflows in the tower. Though I am not quite sure what you mean.

You can be in overflows for the tower. I get what you are saying, it will be interesting how they handled that.

what happens to the tower on a server when players from that server inject the anti toxin in an overflow zone?

Zerole.7306:

You can be in overflows for the tower. I get what you are saying, it will be interesting how they handled that.

what happens to the tower on a server when players from that server inject the anti toxin in an overflow zone?

On a buffer overflow, i imagine only the tower of the overflow ends, and if you save on the overflow player on the server might decided to end it.

Dont get me wrong im at work, so still speculating on the process how Anet is envolving something that does not fit in the game engine, talking about chooses, events decided by players, it does not make sense with overflow system…

Adry.7512:

once again arenanet…..very BAD idea….enjoy ur nr1 tittle for 2012….because you will never and i mean never in your life be in even a top3 official tier of any year ever again. its simple, none of you have the cognition to make a good game actually stay….good, period….very sorry, but you dont.

instead of probably taking down this comment or thread, try to take into consideration the fact that you fell off in less than a year of your “nr1” game being out. take it to heart, because you deserve it.

I love it when people rage at FREE, OPTIONAL, BRAND NEW CONTENT THAT WOULD NEVER BE DONE IN ANY OTHER MMO. I mean really. Tell me again how they are bad for releasing more content than any other game out there? For free? .-.

Aeolus.3615:

Zerole.7306:

You can be in overflows for the tower. I get what you are saying, it will be interesting how they handled that.

what happens to the tower on a server when players from that server inject the anti toxin in an overflow zone?

On a buffer overflow, i imagine only the tower of the overflow ends, and if you save on the overflow player on the server might decided to end it.

Dont get me wrong im at work, so still speculating on the process how Anet is envolving something that does not fit in the game engine, talking about chooses, events decided by players, it does not make sense with overflow system…

I might be missing something, but as i understand this, the tower will only fall after the bloom has been injected a number of times. It’s like a server wide thing. I injected the bloom last night, and tower is absolutely still standing. There appeared to be a progress bar for the how many times it had been done, and was barely moving. Given that the overflow isn’t persistent (I don’t think? ), is that progress wasted?

I’m pretty sure the bar moved last night right on time with reset, so my guess is that the whole “players affecting it” wasn’t entirely true and the bar will just progress every daily reset until in two weeks time, when it disappears forever.

Molten Facility did a very similar thing, the bar progressed every two days and the location of the dungeon moved.

I’m not sure about that…the bar moved on our server before reset, so obviously something other than reset affected it.

It would be interesting to hear from the Devs about whether injecting while playing on an overflow server has any effect on your home server.

Gizmo.9178:

Hopefully some servers are slow. I gave up trying today :P

nvm i finished it lol

You could always keep running the decks, and not injecting the anti-toxin.. Would likely go for a long time before returning to plain old but attractive kessex hills.

I suspect they wanted it to run as a world-challenge between servers, like killing Teq 2.0 for the first time.

Zerole.7306:

Aeolus.3615:

Zerole.7306:

You can be in overflows for the tower. I get what you are saying, it will be interesting how they handled that.

what happens to the tower on a server when players from that server inject the anti toxin in an overflow zone?

On a buffer overflow, i imagine only the tower of the overflow ends, and if you save on the overflow player on the server might decided to end it.

Dont get me wrong im at work, so still speculating on the process how Anet is envolving something that does not fit in the game engine, talking about chooses, events decided by players, it does not make sense with overflow system…

I might be missing something, but as i understand this, the tower will only fall after the bloom has been injected a number of times. It’s like a server wide thing. I injected the bloom last night, and tower is absolutely still standing. There appeared to be a progress bar for the how many times it had been done, and was barely moving. Given that the overflow isn’t persistent (I don’t think? ), is that progress wasted?

As far as I understand, when you enter an instance it is hosted in your home server, and you have to enter an instance to inject the anti-toxin.

Alukah.2063:

Zerole.7306:

Aeolus.3615:

Zerole.7306:

You can be in overflows for the tower. I get what you are saying, it will be interesting how they handled that.

what happens to the tower on a server when players from that server inject the anti toxin in an overflow zone?

On a buffer overflow, i imagine only the tower of the overflow ends, and if you save on the overflow player on the server might decided to end it.

Dont get me wrong im at work, so still speculating on the process how Anet is envolving something that does not fit in the game engine, talking about chooses, events decided by players, it does not make sense with overflow system…

I might be missing something, but as i understand this, the tower will only fall after the bloom has been injected a number of times. It’s like a server wide thing. I injected the bloom last night, and tower is absolutely still standing. There appeared to be a progress bar for the how many times it had been done, and was barely moving. Given that the overflow isn’t persistent (I don’t think? ), is that progress wasted?

As far as I understand, when you enter an instance it is hosted in your home server, and you have to enter an instance to inject the anti-toxin.

Hmm…but if your party is made up of people from many different servers on the overflow map, whose ‘home server’ is the instance created on? The first person to enter the instance’s server? Then we are back to ‘does injecting toxin on another server count towards your home server, or the server on which you are’?

Lol…mind-boggling!

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Alukah.2063:

Zerole.7306:

Aeolus.3615:

Zerole.7306:

You can be in overflows for the tower. I get what you are saying, it will be interesting how they handled that.

what happens to the tower on a server when players from that server inject the anti toxin in an overflow zone?

On a buffer overflow, i imagine only the tower of the overflow ends, and if you save on the overflow player on the server might decided to end it.

Dont get me wrong im at work, so still speculating on the process how Anet is envolving something that does not fit in the game engine, talking about chooses, events decided by players, it does not make sense with overflow system…

I might be missing something, but as i understand this, the tower will only fall after the bloom has been injected a number of times. It’s like a server wide thing. I injected the bloom last night, and tower is absolutely still standing. There appeared to be a progress bar for the how many times it had been done, and was barely moving. Given that the overflow isn’t persistent (I don’t think? ), is that progress wasted?

As far as I understand, when you enter an instance it is hosted in your home server, and you have to enter an instance to inject the anti-toxin.

Hmm…but if your party is made up of people from many different servers on the overflow map, whose ‘home server’ is the instance created on? The first person to enter the instance’s server? Then we are back to ‘does injecting toxin on another server count towards your home server, or the server on which you are’?

Lol…mind-boggling!

Or it could apply to all severs represented in the instance. Easy to do, just one more check mark on completion.

Do we know if this bar is per server or all severs?
Might be just me but I want to fill that bar as soon as possible. Not because I want to see it go away but because I want to see it filled and do it as quickly as possible.

KOPPER.1458:

Do we know if this bar is per server or all severs?
Might be just me but I want to fill that bar as soon as possible. Not because I want to see it go away but because I want to see it filled and do it as quickly as possible.

Out of curiosity…why?

I’d rather see people have a chance to play the content and not have to rush to catch it. Maybe someone’s away for a week or even two on vacation. Why not let them have a crack at it too?

Having reread the release notes, I don’t think it really matters whether we inject toxin or not. I think the bar is more like the bar we had in the first Halloween patch. It slowly filled up (or was it going down?) until it hit the mark where something substantial happened. Which for the tower, will be in about 2 weeks.

I may be wrong, but…. It would be nice if we actually controlled the content. Maybe.

I tried, but the players on the overflow i was dont even atacked mobs -__-, they looked like mindless zerglets just healing and rushing (offcourse they died all the time).

Players dont care about assisting or rez also, pitty i cant be within the server i choosed to play, other reason to hate overflow system.