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exactly, but with females they took a much more realistic approach. (female norns)
so we have a race with males that look out of a cartoon network show and females that look much more realistic.

coso.9173:

that would make sense if it was both the male and the females.
why do the females look just like taller humans?
and why don’t the males? is it because females should be sexy in games? why shouldn’t males be sexy too then?

Because Norn males should look badaas and not like Blaster from MadMax which is 90% of human males look in games. (10% is that one Clint-alike face which makes toon look badaas)

Edit: Stop making artificial problems. If it bothers you – quit.

I guess “if it bothers you – quit” could be used for ANY problem on the forum or game.
but is is a discussion board, and I have every right to express what I don’t like about the game, and see what others think about it.

I don’t expect the Devs will redesign any of the races to conform to anyone’s idea of beauty or proportion or any other criteria. It would be years of work, I imagine.

I’d rather see content than upright Charr or wide-legged Norns, or any other changes players ask for.

One can always hope for changes in some other game set in the Tyrian universe.

Good luck.

I don’t really think they’ll change anything at this point either.
But I think it’s important they realize that they could improve their designs, and base give the players more options than “females must be sexy and guys must be tough”.

Well, I don’t find the Norn females sexy; that may just be a perception some have. Certainly not all.

it doesn¡t matter if you personally find them sexy or not. they’de purposely designed to be atractive:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n201/hk_2/GW/Norn_Female_Front.jpg

They are much too bulky to be attractive.

only the last one could be considered “bulky” by our real life standards. the rest have a body that look from out a sports illustrated magazine…

coso.9173:

only the last one could be considered “bulky” by our real life standards. the rest have a body that look from out a sports illustrated magazine…

What a surprise. So do the males (With the exception of having slightly too-small heads). Sports Illustrated show off strong, athletic men and women. Not ’conventionally attractive" people.

the women on the covers of SI are conventionally attractive people, with athethic bodies. google some covers,
http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/1423148986/SI%20COVER.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/sandbox/news/140203/si-covers/si-07-435.jpg
http://images.askmen.com/recess/fun_lists/our-five-favorite-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-covers_1423081689.jpg
http://img.wennermedia.com/620-width/sports-illustrated-cover-467.jpg
however the guys look not like guys on covers of Sports illustrated. try to get a guy that looks like a male norn, with the short legs, the huge arms, the small head and weird torso on the cover of the magazine.
so, we have the female norn that have the attratcive athletic body type we find on magazines and the male norn? weird exaggerated proportions completely unreal and impossible to find in reality.

While I do agree some of the body sizes are a little weird, some of them look just fine if I do say so myself.
I happen to think that my norn has a very nice chest to look at.

Lol, in that case, the debate shouldn’t be about how wacky male Norn physique is, because according to canon Guild Wars lore, male Norn are biologically designed to be hulking, and their in-game models are accurately portrayed.

Instead, the request should be more that you want more diversity in body types, which is then, a fair request. In which case, it just means that ANet will have to schedule their project time management (amongst the hundreds of minute requests put forth by other players) and decide whether to put this request in to motion in their next update.

coso.9173:

I guess “if it bothers you – quit” could be used for ANY problem on the forum or game.
but is is a discussion board, and I have every right to express what I don’t like about the game, and see what others think about it.

NO, you are making artificial problems, you look for a… …hole in the whole.

What you are doing is comparing a 100% ficional, fake, made up, non-existance race that looks similar to 100% real, existing race – Norns to Humans – about that they should not look like this because humans don’t look like this.

Your assumption is they are humans because they look like humans but this assumption is stupid – they are not humans no matter how similar they look.

Claiming that they should not look like this because humans dont look like this is wrong, it’s like claiming that life (living organisms) could not exist in an enviroment without water because life that we know is based around it.

You don’t know how a Norn would look like unless you know a real Norn which you can’t because they are fake.

So stop comparing them to humans because they are not. If you will continue with this crusade it will show more about you then you wish to reveal. (if you catch my drift)

Always have to grin when i see norn male boots. So huge compared with rest of body.

Frediosz.2718:

coso.9173:

I guess “if it bothers you – quit” could be used for ANY problem on the forum or game.
but is is a discussion board, and I have every right to express what I don’t like about the game, and see what others think about it.

NO, you are making artificial problems, you look for kitten in the whole.

What you are doing is comparing a 100% ficional, fake, made up, non-existance race that looks similar to 100% real, existing race – Norns to Humans – about that they should not look like this because humans don’t look like this.

Your assumption is they are humans because they look like humans but this assumption is stupid – they are not humans no matter how similar they look.

Claiming that they should not look like this because humans dont look like this is wrong, it’s like claiming that life (living organisms) could not exist in an enviroment without water because life that we know is based around it.

You don’t know how a Norn would look like unless you know a real Norn which you can’t because they are fake.

So stop comparing them to humans because they are not. If you will continue with this crusade it will show more about you then you wish to reveal. (if you catch my drift)

it is one thing to read a topic, and a completely different thing to understand it. Clearly you can read, but you do not understand it. Please read all the replies before giving repeated opinions that I have already replied to.

coso.9173:

the women on the covers of SI are conventionally attractive people, with athethic bodies. google some covers,
http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/1423148986/SI%20COVER.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/sandbox/news/140203/si-covers/si-07-435.jpg
http://images.askmen.com/recess/fun_lists/our-five-favorite-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-covers_1423081689.jpg
http://img.wennermedia.com/620-width/sports-illustrated-cover-467.jpg
however the guys look not like guys on covers of Sports illustrated. try to get a guy that looks like a male norn, with the short legs, the huge arms, the small head and weird torso on the cover of the magazine.
so, we have the female norn that have the attratcive athletic body type we find on magazines and the male norn? weird exaggerated proportions completely unreal and impossible to find in reality.

Norn aren’t conventional, nor real, nor do they have to be. They are a fantasy race.

Players, and designers, have their own ideas on what may be ‘attractive’. I’m not sure anyone should dictate what should be aesthetically pleasing to others in the realm of fantasy, nor use reality as a measuring stick.

It’s all moot, anyway. There seem to be just as many dissenting opinions as assenting. Thus, likely to keep the status quo.

Good luck.

I agree, I’d love to see more variety in body types for the norn. And I like that I’ve seen an increasing amount of conversation on these boards lately about giving male characters the chance to be as sexy as the female characters, both in body shape and in armor choices. That gives me hope.

Also more options with chest hair would be nice, but maybe that’s just me.

I’ll try to explain myself (again) so people who reply actually know what this is about.
Human people designed a new race that is suposed to look “tough” and big.
When designing the female members of the race, they know it is important that besides looking tough and tall,. they still have to be beautiful and attractive, because players usually like their avatars to look good and attractive to them too. Therefore they managed to make them both tough and attractive, and we have many male and female players that play female norns, because it caters to both of them.
Now, when making the male norns, the designed made them tough and big, but they didn’t think that making them attractive is important. Therefore we have guys playing norns but female players playing male norns? not so much. Comparing it to male human characters, that can look both tough and handsome, there are many females paying male humans too.
My point is that when designing races, costumes, npc’s, and other things, have in consideration that it’s just as important to make male characters attractive than it is to make the female characters attractive.
I know that “attractive” is subjective, but I doubt anyone considers tiny small heads and short legs attractive.
was that clear now? this is not about Norns having other body proportions because whatever lore reason there is, this is about a designer’s decision.