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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

anyone else getting fed up waiting for something else to do ?
just what exactly are Anet doing with all that income from gem sales atm ? surely not useing it for heart of thorns coz i thought we where paying for that on release

i for one am refusing to buy any more gems till you lot start with the regular content again your just taking the kitten with this lack of content you want that income from gem sales but your not willing to give us anything for it and don’t dare say your spending that money on HoT production coz if that’s the case i want it for free since we have already paid for it

Ive said it before and ill say it again Anet has handled the whole HoT production/release badly mebey next expansion you will remember The 6P Principle (Proper Planing Prevents kitten Poor Performance) get it together Anet give us something to do

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Posted by: Andred.1087

Andred.1087

No, because I don’t waste my time doing things I’m not enjoying.

Also, since you’re such an expert on expansion development and PR, maybe you can join the team at ANet and give them a few pointers? Oh, what’s that? You’re not the accomplished product manager you make yourself out to be, and wouldn’t have any idea how to handle this stuff in an actual business environment? My bad.

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Posted by: Faereilos.5106

Faereilos.5106

When Anet released free, bi-weekly content people complained there was too much to do. Now Anet is working on the expansion that a lot of players wanted (and willing to pay for), people complain there’s no new content. It’s impossible to please everyone…

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

No, because I don’t waste my time doing things I’m not enjoying.

Also, since you’re such an expert on expansion development and PR, maybe you can join the team at ANet and give them a few pointers? Oh, what’s that? You’re not the accomplished product manager you make yourself out to be, and wouldn’t have any idea how to handle this stuff in an actual business environment? My bad.

lol you just make my point for me when you say No, because I don’t waste my time doing things I’m not enjoying.

this last month or so Ive barely been playing for more than a couple of hours a day coz when i get on i do the same stuff i done last time i was on and it bores me so i log and play something else i have no incentive to play this game atm

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Posted by: Dante.1763

Dante.1763

When Anet released free, bi-weekly content people complained there was too much to do. Now Anet is working on the expansion that a lot of players wanted (and willing to pay for), people complain there’s no new content. It’s impossible to please everyone…

This. It really is.

The pvp community reminds me of what Obi-kittenenobi describes Mos Eisley as from star wars.

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Doggie.3184

April Fools Day is tomarrow.

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thefinnster.7105

great so i can expect to be trolled by Anet too now

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

Yeah I have the same feeling. I didn’t think the expansion would come at the price of another year without new pvp or WvW content and the end of the living story.

I thought the precise point of the living story was that it would keep going.
They could at the very least bring all the content they removed back.

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Posted by: JustTrogdor.7892

JustTrogdor.7892

When Anet released free, bi-weekly content people complained there was too much to do. Now Anet is working on the expansion that a lot of players wanted (and willing to pay for), people complain there’s no new content. It’s impossible to please everyone…

Yep pretty much this.

Players: We hate the living story and all this bi-weekly content. Give us a real expansion.
Anet: Okay guys we are giving you an expansion.
Players: Hey where is the living story and our bi-weekly content?

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

anyone else getting fed up waiting for something else to do ?
just what exactly are Anet doing with all that income from gem sales atm ? surely not useing it for heart of thorns coz i thought we where paying for that on release

i for one am refusing to buy any more gems till you lot start with the regular content again your just taking the kitten with this lack of content you want that income from gem sales but your not willing to give us anything for it and don’t dare say your spending that money on HoT production coz if that’s the case i want it for free since we have already paid for it

Ive said it before and ill say it again Anet has handled the whole HoT production/release badly mebey next expansion you will remember The 6P Principle (Proper Planing Prevents kitten Poor Performance) get it together Anet give us something to do

You should read up on development life cycle, it should clear up a few of the misconceptions you have about how things like this work.

also, you’re very confused about the business model: whether or not you buy gems at a given point in time doesn’t have any direct impact on what’s being worked on at that time.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

well what does Battlenet do at the end of one WoW’s expansion cycles?

Whenever an expansion is less than a year away, a studio tends to enter high gear and shift all development onto that to make sure that it’s bug free and polished. Having in mind that we entered closed beta stress tests, I would say it’s less than 6 months away.

when you buy gem store items you’re paying for the item itself that you’re buying, not for future development. For all intents and purposes you don’t need to be paying them anything right now and are free to take a break.

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

yeah i realise we buy gems with no promise of anything other than what we bought from the gem store with them but even so i only choose to buy gems to help fund the new content (and many other players think this way too) i have come to expect from them coz i sure as kitten didnt need a bass guitar in game

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

waiting to see if anything happens tomorrow.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

lordkrall.7241

Yeah I have the same feeling. I didn’t think the expansion would come at the price of another year without new pvp or WvW content and the end of the living story.

I thought the precise point of the living story was that it would keep going.
They could at the very least bring all the content they removed back.

And yet this was exactly what many of us that preferred the LS method warned about.

It is simply not feasible to give two week releases and ALSO work on an expansion if they want to get the expansion out in some sort of decent time-frame.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

yeah i realise we buy gems with no promise of anything other than what we bought from the gem store with them but even so i only choose to buy gems to help fund the new content (and many other players think this way too) i have come to expect from them coz i sure as kitten didnt need a bass guitar in game

well good for you. Some people wanted the bass guitar. Some people still want a regular guitar.

The same way that if you’re playing a sub MMO, you’re paying for the access to the game and not promised continued development, unless you’re specifically told so.

Don’t read into purchases for more than what they are.

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

yeah i realise we buy gems with no promise of anything other than what we bought from the gem store with them but even so i only choose to buy gems to help fund the new content (and many other players think this way too) i have come to expect from them coz i sure as kitten didnt need a bass guitar in game

I think they would rather sell you a useless bass guitar for 10$ than give you SAB world 3 for free. And if you do buy that bass guitar, the would rather make an accordion or violin they can sell you for 10$ than give you SAB world 3 for free…

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Posted by: Selkirk.4218

Selkirk.4218

The expansion pack launch/rollout has not been planned well… Existing players have been left in the lurch with only new dyes and instruments to fiddle (literally?) around with.

Lack of content creates 2 problems:
1) bores your most loyal players. gem store items are nice for a day or two but they have real dr-playing a bass guitar at ulgoth doesn’t make the fight better.
2) creates unrealistic expectations for the expansion

After this drought of content the expansion not only needs to deliver almost as well as the gw2 core game itself it almost has too.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

The expansion pack launch/rollout has not been planned well… Existing players have been left in the lurch with only new dyes and instruments to fiddle (literally?) around with.

Lack of content creates 2 problems:
1) bores your most loyal players. gem store items are nice for a day or two but they have real dr-playing a bass guitar at ulgoth doesn’t make the fight better.
2) creates unrealistic expectations for the expansion

After this drought of content the expansion not only needs to deliver almost as well as the gw2 core game itself it almost has too.

weigh this game against others in the market and tell me which game actually not only kept 2 week updates coming, but never hit this required content drought before an expansion?

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Any WoW players here that can tell us how much new content is released inbetween expansions? Perhaps this information would tell OP whether or not his complaint about no new content is valid.

Yeah I have the same feeling. I didn’t think the expansion would come at the price of another year without new pvp or WvW content and the end of the living story.

I thought the precise point of the living story was that it would keep going.
They could at the very least bring all the content they removed back.

And yet this was exactly what many of us that preferred the LS method warned about.

It is simply not feasible to give two week releases and ALSO work on an expansion if they want to get the expansion out in some sort of decent time-frame.

Lordkrall’s post needs to be highlighted. And I will add my signature.

Be careful what you ask for. ANet may give it to you.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Wyrdfell.8327

Wyrdfell.8327

Before Warlords of Dreanor Blizzard didn’t release any new content updates for more than 12 months. What happened? Most of the players continued to pay their sub prices and they basically waited for WoD. Anet is working on an expansion. You don’t even pay any sub price and still you can complain about the lack of new content. Oh god…

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

i do like GW2 and what they have done for the most part dont get me wrong its head and shoulders above anything else currently out there but there no denying they mess up alot and have really mishandled alot of things along the way this being one of them

i mean how hard would it have been to schedule some more old copy paste events from the past back in to the game
hell they could have unlocked sab 1-2 just to keep us entertained we have pavilion due soon too those things would have taken almost no effort to bring back and while its not new content it would entertain us more than the alternative witch is nothing
or heres another simple idea raise the lvl cap on fractals and add a new drop on chests on fractals 50+ to help raise AR in order to counter the agony dmg like say a +5 AR infusion (current method of making infusions is too slow and most players couldn’t cope with increased agony dmg for quite some time) meaning we can combine them in to a + 30 infusion faster

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Posted by: Selkirk.4218

Selkirk.4218

I’m not an mmo historian so i can’t really answer that. And i’m not really not asking for sw part 2 or a new zone like cursed shore but…we have nothing new.

This actually would be ok (the game world itself is incredibly large) if there was a reason to do lower level content/zones. At present there really isn’t. Anet doesn’t necessarily need a new ‘zone’ but a storyline or series of rewards based in a neglected zone(s) would help things along tremendously. Or you could tease out the expac with a storyline…I know season 2 did this but those truly seem like echoes of the past.

Again, the problem the ‘gap’ has created is that Hot is going to face unrealistic expectations from a player base hungry for content.

At this point I personally don’t think one new class is going to satisfy it. If they knew/planned this expac would create a year long ‘gap’ then the expac needs to be more ambitious (another race/several more classes/loads of new armor skins). And we need dates for this expac-what’s with the mystery? Anet certainly has time frames for rollout why can’t we get rough time frames?

Keep in mind i come from eq2 which is on like expansion 15.

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Posted by: Yadidi.2910

Yadidi.2910

WoW player here, we wait 14 months for the expansion to come, it was definitely not worth the wait. The whole things feels uncompleted and rushed.

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Posted by: CrashTestAuto.9108

CrashTestAuto.9108

The problem with the bi-weekly content wasn’t that it was released every two weeks, it was that it was taken away every two weeks.

If they’d been adding permanent content every two weeks there wouldn’t have been nearly as many complaints. Also, the expansion is paid, I don’t see why it would require taking resources from the free content development (and if it did, they could have said that).

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

yeah Selkirk.4218 im an ex everquest fan myself and they did give us lots of regular proper expansions witch generally keep t you busy till the next one and for the majorty of the player base they would still be working on the last expansion content when new ones would hit chasing that elusive drop or following a lengthy hard quest with lots of rare drops
this is kinda an area that guild wars 2 falls short on coz most content is finished pretty quickly leavening us hungry for the next new content
as long as the content kept coming at a regular rate that was fine for me but the problem is its not coming at all and Ive done everything else and am hungry for something new

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

The problem with the bi-weekly content wasn’t that it was released every two weeks, it was that it was taken away every two weeks.

If they’d been adding permanent content every two weeks there wouldn’t have been nearly as many complaints. Also, the expansion is paid, I don’t see why it would require taking resources from the free content development (and if it did, they could have said that).

well if you have 100 people, 10 are working on bugs, 20 are working on under the hood and life improvement updates (we’ve seen many of those), 40 are working on bi-weekly updates and 30 are working on the expansion, how long do you think the expansion would take? We could wait an extra 2-3 years while they finish it and bug test it, or they can kick in high gear for a few months. I completely do not think that it’s unreasonable.

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Posted by: CureForLiving.5360

CureForLiving.5360

When Anet released free, bi-weekly content people complained there was too much to do. Now Anet is working on the expansion that a lot of players wanted (and willing to pay for), people complain there’s no new content. It’s impossible to please everyone…

This. It really is.

People will find something to complain about… or if you’re not as misanthropic because ANet has a large players base it only makes sense that there would be a diversity of opinions.

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

Anet certainly has time frames for rollout why can’t we get rough time frames?

because the community has proven time and time again that whenever the devs give us “rough time frames” or any kind of time estimates, the community treats it as “we promise, 100% certain, with a money back guarantee, that this will be delivered at 12:01am on that date”… and then they’ll spend the rest of the time kittening about how Anet keeps “breaking their promises”.

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Posted by: Selkirk.4218

Selkirk.4218

but…i think the point of this thread is planning (and the lack thereof) for an expansion. It would be be difficult to argue that Anet has planned this well.

Given the progression structure, which is maddeningly vertical then flattens immediately, they had to know the game needs content. Which in itself is frustrating as again the world is already large enough and is lovingly crafted. A shame then that i have no reason to visit these places.

On release dates..it’s fine not to say october 11th or whatever specific day but to not release a schedule of rough dates is a disservice. I honestly have no idea when it’s coming out…next week…6 more months… Is this the way to do things? Goes back to planning…

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

but…i think the point of this thread is planning (and the lack thereof) for an expansion. It would be be difficult to argue that Anet has planned this well.

Given the progression structure, which is maddeningly vertical then flattens immediately, they had to know the game needs content. Which in itself is frustrating as again the world is already large enough and is lovingly crafted. A shame then that i have no reason to visit these places.

On release dates..it’s fine not to say october 11th or whatever specific day but to not release a schedule of rough dates is a disservice. I honestly have no idea when it’s coming out…next week…6 more months… Is this the way to do things? Goes back to planning…

yeah they have known for some time they would have to make an expansion sooner or later in all that time surely it must have occurred to someone that they where gona need more staff to keep the game going while making said expansion
wouldn’t it have made sense if over the last year Anet had employed alot of part time staff and taught them there jobs to make sure they had a reserve of potential staff for this very moment and could do both
i mean they certainly have the income to to employ these guys after all they have gem sale income and projected profits from the expansion
and no im not genius business man but this just seems common sense to me
and since they don’t seem to have had the foresight to do that them shouldent the now be making efforts to employ more staff in order to meet both demands ?

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Posted by: jweez.7214

jweez.7214

You won’t spend any more gems until content comes out? Perfect! Sounds like a perfect solution to your problem. You’ll take a break from gw2 (hopefully the gw2 threads to) and come back when the Devs get back into their regular content cycles.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

yeah they have known for some time they would have to make an expansion sooner or later in all that time surely it must have occurred to someone that they where gona need more staff to keep the game going while making said expansion
wouldn’t it have made sense if over the last year Anet had employed alot of part time staff and taught them there jobs to make sure they had a reserve of potential staff for this very moment and could do both
i mean they certainly have the income to to employ these guys after all they have gem sale income and projected profits from the expansion
and no im not genius business man but this just seems common sense to me
and since they don’t seem to have had the foresight to do that them shouldent the now be making efforts to employ more staff in order to meet both demands ?

staff costs money. Already they have a giant development team in comparison to most MMOs. Surely you would rather spend some months re-positioning your resources, than potentially driving yourself into minus by over-hiring and managing temporary staff that would need to be trained too?

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Posted by: Mar.4839

Mar.4839

This is typical of even the highly successful MMO World of Warcraft. The year before an expansion releases is sparse of new content as the development team is focused on the expansion.

As others have stated, many people who play WoW just keep their subs going but don’t receive extra content in the meantime. We’re not having to pay monthly to be able to keep playing this game after our initial purchase as it stands.

If you are bored enough to not have anything interesting in the game to do then just take a break. I know many players who are excited for the expansion but will not come back to playing GW2 until the expansion is (or is close to) released.

I might myself even take a break soon, as I feel like I have nothing to work towards right now and none of their recent blog posts have been interesting enough (I’m more into the Revenant and Specialization infos).

At least next week Dark Souls 2 will release on PS4 and that will take my focus off GW2 for a while.

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Posted by: Algreg.3629

Algreg.3629

but…i think the point of this thread is planning (and the lack thereof) for an expansion. It would be be difficult to argue that Anet has planned this well.

Given the progression structure, which is maddeningly vertical then flattens immediately, they had to know the game needs content. Which in itself is frustrating as again the world is already large enough and is lovingly crafted. A shame then that i have no reason to visit these places.

On release dates..it’s fine not to say october 11th or whatever specific day but to not release a schedule of rough dates is a disservice. I honestly have no idea when it’s coming out…next week…6 more months… Is this the way to do things? Goes back to planning…

yeah they have known for some time they would have to make an expansion sooner or later in all that time surely it must have occurred to someone that they where gona need more staff to keep the game going while making said expansion
wouldn’t it have made sense if over the last year Anet had employed alot of part time staff and taught them there jobs to make sure they had a reserve of potential staff for this very moment and could do both
i mean they certainly have the income to to employ these guys after all they have gem sale income and projected profits from the expansion
and no im not genius business man but this just seems common sense to me
and since they don’t seem to have had the foresight to do that them shouldent the now be making efforts to employ more staff in order to meet both demands ?

you are giving yourself too much credit. You are not only not a genius business man, telling by your post you donĀ“t even have a basic understanding of business, IT development and HR.

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

This is typical of even the highly successful MMO World of Warcraft. The year before an expansion releases is sparse of new content as the development team is focused on the expansion.

As others have stated, many people who play WoW just keep their subs going but don’t receive extra content in the meantime. We’re not having to pay monthly to be able to keep playing this game after our initial purchase as it stands.

If you are bored enough to not have anything interesting in the game to do then just take a break. I know many players who are excited for the expansion but will not come back to playing GW2 until the expansion is (or is close to) released.

I might myself even take a break soon, as I feel like I have nothing to work towards right now and none of their recent blog posts have been interesting enough (I’m more into the Revenant and Specialization infos).

At least next week Dark Souls 2 will release on PS4 and that will take my focus off GW2 for a while.

don’t you think that players dropping out would be a bad thing tho and if we take too big a break some of us may not come back at all for the expansion
Ive been playing regular since launch and mainly only relay play gw2 i am pretty invested in it and the progress Ive made lets say i take a break and go play something like archage and end up liking it and play a lot and feel invested in that too
then i have to make a decision abandon my hard work on archage witch is new/fresh and interesting to me or keep playing and bail on gw2 altogether
and being an ex everquest 1-2 and wow player i pretty much know how that decision would go
i don’t want to take a break and play another game like that i like gw 2 im just bored as hell atm and need to be entertained while i wait for HoT not these little mini patches with minor changes here and there that would have been better suited in a proper features patch

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Posted by: Naus the Gobbo.5172

Naus the Gobbo.5172

Yeah, if you could go play other games instead of whining about this MMO, when ALL MMOs work this way, that would be great.

What we do in life echoes in eternity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6zkT2uZAGA – GW2 – A world of wonder

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

Yeah, if you could go play other games instead of whining about this MMO, when ALL MMOs work this way, that would be great.

you know what would be relay great if you brought something constructive to this discussion instead of trolling

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

don’t you think that players dropping out would be a bad thing tho and if we take too big a break some of us may not come back at all for the expansion

1. Where would they go when all MMOs function that way?
2. I took a 10 month break previously. Guild Wars 2 is designed to be user friendly when it comes to putting it down and picking it back up again.

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

don’t you think that players dropping out would be a bad thing tho and if we take too big a break some of us may not come back at all for the expansion

1. Where would they go when all MMOs function that way?
2. I took a 10 month break previously. Guild Wars 2 is designed to be user friendly when it comes to putting it down and picking it back up again.

yeah i know gw2 can be easy to pick back up but while that may work for gw2 most other games are not quite so easy to catch up on

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Posted by: Selkirk.4218

Selkirk.4218

Not all mmo’s function this way. And frankly even if they did why would gw2 have to operate in the same fashion? No, the problem is they either don’t have the staff (which is probable but regrettable) and/or didn’t plan (again probable and regrettable).

And we all understand the ‘complexities’ of an expac.. it’s a computer game they aren’t working at Cern. Some delays would be excusable but ‘leave us alone we’re doing stuff’ isn’t enough. Hype about an expac isn’t a substitute for content.

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Posted by: Mirta.5029

Mirta.5029

yeah i know gw2 can be easy to pick back up but while that may work for gw2 most other games are not quite so easy to catch up on

well if the reason those players left in the first place is a gap in content, then they’ll encounter it again in a different MMO, meaning that whether other said MMO is hard or easy to catch up on doesn’t mean much as that player will get bored again eventually anyway. Not to mention with MMOs working on level increases, everyone is put back on an even field every expansion, meaning that catching up for a new player is not harder than for an old player.

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Posted by: Ardenwolfe.8590

Ardenwolfe.8590

When Anet released free, bi-weekly content people complained there was too much to do. Now Anet is working on the expansion that a lot of players wanted (and willing to pay for), people complain there’s no new content. It’s impossible to please everyone…

This in a nutshell. But the expansion crowd cried the loudest and the longest . . . so here we are.

Yeah I have the same feeling. I didn’t think the expansion would come at the price of another year without new pvp or WvW content and the end of the living story.

I thought the precise point of the living story was that it would keep going.
They could at the very least bring all the content they removed back.

And yet this was exactly what many of us that preferred the LS method warned about.

It is simply not feasible to give two week releases and ALSO work on an expansion if they want to get the expansion out in some sort of decent time-frame.

Again, hits the nail on the head.

Gone to Reddit.

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

thefinnster.7105

yeah i know gw2 can be easy to pick back up but while that may work for gw2 most other games are not quite so easy to catch up on

well if the reason those players left in the first place is a gap in content, then they’ll encounter it again in a different MMO, meaning that whether other said MMO is hard or easy to catch up on doesn’t mean much as that player will get bored again eventually anyway. Not to mention with MMOs working on level increases, everyone is put back on an even field every expansion, meaning that catching up for a new player is not harder than for an old player.

this hasent allways been the case for me in other mmorpgs ive played as i said on everquest the majority of the player base would still be playing through the previous expansion when new ones would hit a realy good example of this would be the original everquest’s plains of time expansion it was masive tiered progression stuff filled with raids and rare loot i forget what expansion came after but roughly 70% of the player base proly still hadent unlocked the final zone (plain of time) for the uber loot as expansions went on all the mmorpgs ive played this was by far the best example of this
i came in late for WoW and everquest 2 so had similar experiences coz i was playing catch up i had more things to do and have never experienced the lack of endgame content like we do in this game witch normally is filled by regualr content updates to keep us entertained without that theres nothing for me and a lot of other players to focus on and players are dropping out

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Posted by: Tree.3916

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@OP,

I don’t know who you are but it sounds to me that you haven’t explored all game modes to their fullest if you are still lacking content to consume.
1. Are you rank 80 in PvP?
2. Do you hold any records for speed clearing dungeons?
3. Is your WvW rank over 1,000?
4. Have you maxed out all achievements?
5. Do you have all the legendaries?
6. Have you achieved 100% map completion on more than one character?
7. Have you taught new players how to play the game?
8. Have you met a group of people you enjoy playing with?

The open ended nature of the end game in Guild Wars 2 means you have to come up with personal goals to motivate yourself to continue playing the game.

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

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anyone else getting fed up waiting for something else to do ?
just what exactly are Anet doing with all that income from gem sales atm ? surely not useing it for heart of thorns coz i thought we where paying for that on release

i for one am refusing to buy any more gems till you lot start with the regular content again your just taking the kitten with this lack of content you want that income from gem sales but your not willing to give us anything for it and don’t dare say your spending that money on HoT production coz if that’s the case i want it for free since we have already paid for it

Ive said it before and ill say it again Anet has handled the whole HoT production/release badly mebey next expansion you will remember The 6P Principle (Proper Planing Prevents kitten Poor Performance) get it together Anet give us something to do

I thought Anet made it clear that there would be no content releases until the expansion launches.
So if you were expecting some content with todays patch, you really only have yourself to blame.
As far as handling the expansion badly? How so? They opened up closed beta stress tests, have regular blogs, and info concerning whats coming, they said they wren’t working on any LS/content updates until the expansion….
It sounds like they planned it out very well, and are following their plan.

Also as someone else said, those who didn’t want an expansion said this exact thing would happen. But those in favor kept shouting that it wouldn’t, and that they would be more than happy to wait, if it meant getting an expansion. Seems that the pro-expansion people were wrong….

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Posted by: thefinnster.7105

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When Anet released free, bi-weekly content people complained there was too much to do. Now Anet is working on the expansion that a lot of players wanted (and willing to pay for), people complain there’s no new content. It’s impossible to please everyone…

This in a nutshell. But the expansion crowd cried the loudest and the longest . . . so here we are.

Yeah I have the same feeling. I didn’t think the expansion would come at the price of another year without new pvp or WvW content and the end of the living story.

I thought the precise point of the living story was that it would keep going.
They could at the very least bring all the content they removed back.

And yet this was exactly what many of us that preferred the LS method warned about.

It is simply not feasible to give two week releases and ALSO work on an expansion if they want to get the expansion out in some sort of decent time-frame.

Again, hits the nail on the head.

certainly alot of truth in that this expansion is simply them trying ot please us all for QQ’ing for an expansion and time will tell if we where better off with the free LS

but something to consider when waighing up the qualityof HoT when we finaly get is is what we have missed out on in the mean time i suspect we will not get any content till pavilion coz its just copy paste for them
and i dare say there will be a large gap of no content after release of HoT so all in what a year of allmost no free content and we have to pay for the content they did release ?

i realy do hope ill be surprised and mebey they have more in the works to keep us entertained in the meantime but they are not saying anything and that makes me think they have nothing planed and just wana rush the expansion

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Posted by: Artemis Thuras.8795

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but…i think the point of this thread is planning (and the lack thereof) for an expansion. It would be be difficult to argue that Anet has planned this well.

Given the progression structure, which is maddeningly vertical then flattens immediately, they had to know the game needs content. Which in itself is frustrating as again the world is already large enough and is lovingly crafted. A shame then that i have no reason to visit these places.

On release dates..it’s fine not to say october 11th or whatever specific day but to not release a schedule of rough dates is a disservice. I honestly have no idea when it’s coming out…next week…6 more months… Is this the way to do things? Goes back to planning…

yeah they have known for some time they would have to make an expansion sooner or later in all that time surely it must have occurred to someone that they where gona need more staff to keep the game going while making said expansion
wouldn’t it have made sense if over the last year Anet had employed alot of part time staff and taught them there jobs to make sure they had a reserve of potential staff for this very moment and could do both
i mean they certainly have the income to to employ these guys after all they have gem sale income and projected profits from the expansion
and no im not genius business man but this just seems common sense to me
and since they don’t seem to have had the foresight to do that them shouldent the now be making efforts to employ more staff in order to meet both demands ?

The problem with your theory about more staff is this:
adding more staff to a software project serves to slow it down more than it will speed it up.
This is due to the time needed to train new staff with bespoke in house systems, get them up to speed with the code base of the game – and get them integrated into a team working on some aspect of the expansion.

Basically throwing more dev staff at it would just push the release date back further.

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Posted by: Selkirk.4218

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In fairness to Anet , in the absence of content, how could they announce a release date? Knowing that if they said 6 months then half of the playerbase quits and some of them come back on expac release and some forget the game or find something new.

So it’s a blog post here and a you tube video there-and no new content all along the way (however long the way is ^^;). A series of teases to string us along..this isn’t enough.

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Posted by: LanfearShadowflame.3189

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Am I fed up waiting for something else to do? Uh no…got plenty to do still. Thanks.

What are they doing with the gemstore sales? They are uh.. .insert gasp here …working on the expansion you want. Go kittening figure. We’re paying their salaries so that they can continue working. Now, are they working on other stuff beyond expansion content. Maybe, though probably not much. Given that they are gearing up for beta soon-ish, I would think they primary focus (as Colin has said) would be on the expansion and getting it done.

What? You don’t like that they don’t have enough man power to “do it all”? Buy more gems so they can hire more people then. Box sales (which I’m guessing are rather low now) and gem purchases are their only income. You aren’t paying a sub fee to pay their wages, and likely a significant chunk of the gem store purchases are bought gold → gems, not cash → gems. They gotta provide for their families too ya know.

Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.

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Posted by: WEXXES.2378

WEXXES.2378

@OP,

I don’t know who you are but it sounds to me that you haven’t explored all game modes to their fullest if you are still lacking content to consume.
1. Are you rank 80 in PvP?
2. Do you hold any records for speed clearing dungeons?
3. Is your WvW rank over 1,000?
4. Have you maxed out all achievements?
5. Do you have all the legendaries?
6. Have you achieved 100% map completion on more than one character?
7. Have you taught new players how to play the game?
8. Have you met a group of people you enjoy playing with?

The open ended nature of the end game in Guild Wars 2 means you have to come up with personal goals to motivate yourself to continue playing the game.

First off, you don’t need to go hardcore to see what the game has to offer. A rank 10 in PvP has basically seen all that PvP has to offer, and rank 50 in WvW has probably been to all the borderlands and all of EB. Some of those points don’t even matter or will make the game even more boring.

There are two things I don’t agree with in GW2: the “open ended” nature of the “end game” when the game itself is a theme park MMO, and the fact that most of the things in GW2 feels heavily emphasized on short term play times (silverwastes is a 40min-ish style of PvE played in rounds basically, and even then, many people like to skip most of it.)