Guild Wars 2

let me start by saying i am by no right a causal player but many of my friends are the thing that bothers is so far to get the perm weapons would req a grind and for the players who only play 1 to 2 hours a day are well getting shafted the idea of a in game event to have people enjoy the game not put people into a grind fest would have made more sense to req 250 to 400 candy corn to purchase a perm wep which is possible for anyone

The content/events are there with no grind. The weapons can still be crafted after the Halloween event has ended as indicated by arena net. All of the BLC weapon skins can be traded as well. So you do not have to grind for the stuff per say. They basically gave us Halloween legendary weapons. Now if they were only craft-able during the event I could see the problem but since they can be made a year from now I don’t see a huge problem with it.

but the mats are only found during the event

But…I kind of want them while Halloween is still on ^^° Unfortunately I really badly need to work on my masterthesis, therefore can only spend a couple of hours in the evening to play…

As a casual (is only one level 80 considered casual?) I’m not even going to bother going for any of the rewards. There’s no conceivable way I could have the materials for the skins — which would be put to better use on other crafting anyway — and I’m not playing the casino odds.

The actual EVENT, the missions and candy scanner and coming acts? Those I’m getting in on.

BardaTheHobo.9752:

The content/events are there with no grind. The weapons can still be crafted after the Halloween event has ended as indicated by arena net. All of the BLC weapon skins can be traded as well. So you do not have to grind for the stuff per say. They basically gave us Halloween legendary weapons. Now if they were only craft-able during the event I could see the problem but since they can be made a year from now I don’t see a huge problem with it.

“No grind”. They use 250 orichalcum ingots, 100 rare halloween mats, 40 wines, lodestones, bloodshards,etc,etc.

To be fair, you can get a fair amount of Ori’s just from finishing the lvl 70+ areas – at least I did, and I have run across a fair share of nodes too…but yeah, alltogether, that’s just too many too expensive materials. There’s a reason I have no interest in going for legendaries, but I’d really really like to get at least one birthday skin ^^° (yes, I was born on the 31st)

AXEL.8362:

BardaTheHobo.9752:

The content/events are there with no grind. The weapons can still be crafted after the Halloween event has ended as indicated by arena net. All of the BLC weapon skins can be traded as well. So you do not have to grind for the stuff per say. They basically gave us Halloween legendary weapons. Now if they were only craft-able during the event I could see the problem but since they can be made a year from now I don’t see a huge problem with it.

“No grind”. They use 250 orichalcum ingots, 100 rare halloween mats, 40 wines, lodestones, bloodshards,etc,etc.

and thats just for the GIFT one single component

Everyone should get everything at all times , seems to about sum it up right ?

Yea, casual players tend to lose out here. It’s one of the things I also noticed, after the initial Act 1 quest and some costume brawling, it looked like the only thing left was ‘farm for halloween legendaries’ which was quite disappointing.

honestly its a shame such are large amount of the player base is getting shafted i remember in gw1 getting my candy cane sword for the xmas event with little work i thought is was great and everyone felt alittle more awesome and thats the idea behind a event and they missed it entirely so far with act 1 i hope this improves

It’s an MMO.

Casual players are welcome but they shouldn’t expect to REALLY benefit visually and set themselves apart from anyone else unless they put in TIME.

Because…..it’s an MMO.

dahkot.3579:

Everyone should get everything at all times , seems to about sum it up right ?

Absolutely not. But there’s “You’ll have to work a bit for it” and there’s “Welcome to your new second job.”

There’s a line which each individual has, which is a point of no return. Prior to that, it’s effort but it’s effort you’re willing to put in for the reward you get. After that no matter how nice the reward is, it’s just not worth bothering with because it costs too much money / time / resources.

A casual player lacks money / time / resources. I’ve got a job, I’ve got house bills to pay, heck — I have other games I want to spend time playing. These are completely out of my reach, so I’m not going for them. It’s disappointing that Arenanet thinks these costs are reasonable.

I’ve been in other MMOs with other holiday events that also have tangible rewards and they too made us work for them, but the level of work was within reason. This isn’t. So, pass.

Do the scavenger hunt.

edit – also find and carve pumpkins. it’s an exploration thing. I believe you get a title for completing it.

It’s probably in response to those people who have gotten their legendaries within a month or two of the game (when those things are supposedly or ideally acquired at a much later part of the game).

“Oh so you made your legendary within a month, eh? Here’s a new challenge for you!”

All these things are just, imo, gold/mat sink made to decrease the value of gold and increase the value of items, maybe to combat botters? o.o but then it wouldn’t really make any sense then :|

Oreoz.2573:

It’s an MMO.

Casual players are welcome but they shouldn’t expect to REALLY benefit visually and set themselves apart from anyone else unless they put in TIME.

Because…..it’s an MMO.

you sir missed the point of this thread it is a event for the COMMUNITY when you dont include a good portion of said COMMUNITY why have the event at all.
legendary items are obtainable to everyone may take longer for a causal than it does for a hardcore player but it will happen at one point these items for this event as it sits you will not see a causal running around with any of the crafted skins

The casual players can do the event chain / scavenger hunt, carve pumpkins, participate in costume brawl by using tonics or by jumping in the cauldron in LA… you know… do the actual holiday activities.

Why does everything have to be about getting stuff all the time.

@kana because that is the way this world works

AXEL.8362:

BardaTheHobo.9752:

The content/events are there with no grind. The weapons can still be crafted after the Halloween event has ended as indicated by arena net. All of the BLC weapon skins can be traded as well. So you do not have to grind for the stuff per say. They basically gave us Halloween legendary weapons. Now if they were only craft-able during the event I could see the problem but since they can be made a year from now I don’t see a huge problem with it.

“No grind”. They use 250 orichalcum ingots, 100 rare halloween mats, 40 wines, lodestones, bloodshards,etc,etc.

I was saying the actual event itself requires no grind to partake in. Yes the weapons are a grind but so are the other “rare” weapons in the game. Everyone has the opportunity to get them since there is not time limit/the materials are tradeable. Everyone will have their own pace.

zxosz.4097:

Oreoz.2573:

It’s an MMO.

Casual players are welcome but they shouldn’t expect to REALLY benefit visually and set themselves apart from anyone else unless they put in TIME.

Because…..it’s an MMO.

you sir missed the point of this thread it is a event for the COMMUNITY when you dont include a good portion of said COMMUNITY why have the event at all.
legendary items are obtainable to everyone may take longer for a causal than it does for a hardcore player but it will happen at one point these items for this event as it sits you will not see a causal running around with any of the crafted skins

No you missed the point. Yes it is a community event. No where did it ever say that the entire community would get to experience the entire event and get all of the rewards in the first 12 hours of the event.

The word entitlement comes to mind. I’m not a hard core player myself. I won’t spend more than one or two keys on a chest. I won’t collect enough candy corn for a reward. I will try the other activities and have fun.

Just because there’s an event and you don’t want to participate in part of it because it takes too long doesn’t mean the event is bad. Everyone is not equal. We all do what we want with the time we have.

Stop thinking you’re owed something. Stop with the crying and whining all the time. Go enjoy yourself and be happy.

Happy Halloween!

Yea, while I don’t think I’ll be able to gather enough to actually make any of the craftable weapons myself, I think it is unreasonable to say there isn’t content for everyone. Completing the scavenger hunt gives you a unique (and cool) backpack I believe, there is also the really awesome and fun Costume Brawl. And this is only Act 1, there is going to be more content to do to boot.

Just because the unique weapon skins may be a bit out of reach doesn’t mean that ArenaNet didn’t provide content for all levels of ‘commitment’ from players.

Isn’t the point of Legendaries as a reward for a lot of time and dedication spent? If anyone could get them easily in a few weeks of 1-2 hrs a day of playing, then it wouldn’t be very Legendary, would it?

zxosz.4097:

@kana because that is the way this world works

Ok. Well it’s also the way this world works that you can’t have everything. Especially if you’re unable to put either a lot of time or a lot of money into getting it.

It’s like….I don’t want to work 40 hours of overtime every week, but I want to get paid for 80 hours of work anyway!

Kana.6793:

zxosz.4097:

@kana because that is the way this world works

Ok. Well it’s also the way this world works that you can’t have everything. Especially if you’re unable to put either a lot of time or a lot of money into getting it.

It’s not about not being willing to work for things, it’s about things requiring unreasonable amount of work.

If you require something that takes people playing the game 15 hours a day for a week straight to get, that’s unreasonable.

That’s what these Halloween items will take. Insane amounts of time, or insane amounts of money. Neither of these things jive with anet’s stated “no grinding, have fun” philosophy.

No, they said no grind for top level gear, grind for aesthetics only. Which is exactly what these are.

FYI—I only get to play maybe 2-3 hours a day max, between job and family and health issues. There’s no chance I’ll ever get a Legendary. But that’s because I don’t have the time and resources to get one. That’s fine. I get what I can work for. Fair deal.

RShara.3265:

It’s like….I don’t want to work 40 hours of overtime every week, but I want to get paid for 80 hours of work anyway!

This is a video game. This is not a job.

Many of us have jobs and real life obligations and simply cannot treat it like a job. We want to be able to enjoy things as much as those of who do not.

Make the rewards come from skill. Require defeating tough mobs, or doing tough jumping puzzles.

Making things require grinds of either money, time, or gambling are not good solutions.

RShara.3265:

No, they said no grind for top level gear, grind for aesthetics only. Which is exactly what these are.

FYI—I only get to play maybe 2-3 hours a day max, between job and family and health issues. There’s no chance I’ll ever get a Legendary. But that’s because I don’t have the time and resources to get one. That’s fine. I get what I can work for. Fair deal.

The difference is that this is a holiday “fun” event. This isn’t end game stuff where you can work at it for a year. This is a one week fun event ruined by grind and gambling mechanics.

It’s an analogy. I know it’s a video game….

I could also say, “I can’t afford that shiny new iPhone 5! I want it! They should set the price lower so that I can get it without having to pay so much, right now!”

I think the large point is that while we would want it to be hard to get the items…Why make it ANOTHER farming grind? It would have been more fun if they made a Halloween dungeon and the end boss gives you a weapon or something.

The main issue with the Halloween weapons is: Why use the mats for them when you can put the same time and resources toward a legendary and get a nicer looking weapon?

If your idea of fun is to get the super-unique, hard to find, requires lots of time skins, then okay, I guess it’s ruined for you for not being able to play 18 hours a day.

But I can still smash a pumpkin in your face and laugh my rear off about it (that’s called fun)!

RShara.3265:

If your idea of fun is to get the super-unique, hard to find, requires lots of time skins, then okay, I guess it’s ruined for you for not being able to play 18 hours a day.

But I can still smash a pumpkin in your face and laugh my rear off about it (that’s called fun)!

My fun is getting neat things for my character that last throughout my playtime in gw2. It’s not running around and pressing F by a pumpkin 100 times.

But that’s besides the point. My point is that gambling mechanics (black lion skins) and legendary requirements for skins go counter to the “have fun for the holiday!” idea.

Why not just have a vendor sell the neat skins for a gold or so? It would prevent them from being trash, while still having them accessible to all players.

Then in the cash shop you simply sell the black lion skins for a set amount of gems rather than appealing people’s addictive gambling responses.

I logged in this morning 1 hour before work. I was able to mine 75 candy corn, get a scythe skin for mah staff and do a bit of costumes things and start the Act 1.

dunno pretty nice for casual

Vithaar.8637:

I logged in this morning 1 hour before work. I was able to mine 75 candy corn, get a scythe skin for mah staff and do a bit of costumes things and start the Act 1.

dunno pretty nice for casual

How did you get the scythe skin? Did you luck into the sub 1% chance to loot it in a black lion chest?

That’s not a really good example if so.

Vithaar.8637:

I logged in this morning 1 hour before work. I was able to mine 75 candy corn, get a scythe skin for mah staff and do a bit of costumes things and start the Act 1.

dunno pretty nice for casual

until you log in again and notice your scythe skin is gone because it’s only temporary and lasts 4 hours?

“casual” here. Im still running around L.A like a chicken with its head chopped off and having fun.

Casual Awaaaay!!

@ Kristine, negative, I got it from opening a BLC chest, those are perm skin

@DonQuack that’s great. I mean it. It’s cool that you are having fun running around.

However, for the casuals of us that find other areas of the game fun (like getting "things), this is a serious disappointment.

Snerf.1650:

Vithaar.8637:

I logged in this morning 1 hour before work. I was able to mine 75 candy corn, get a scythe skin for mah staff and do a bit of costumes things and start the Act 1.

dunno pretty nice for casual

How did you get the scythe skin? Did you luck into the sub 1% chance to loot it in a black lion chest?

That’s not a really good example if so.

Yeah sorry about that, second open chest with a key from the first chest. Hakitteny saved up.

Was very happy I had a horseshoe up you know where. I was wearing my 198% MF set so maybe that helped

Vithaar.8637:

@ Kristine, negative, I got it from opening a BLC chest, those are perm skin

Then you got extremely lucky. It isn’t an example of what most people can expect.

I prefer there to be “rare” items. Ones I know I likely won’t get. Games are boring to me to see everyone have everything and look alike.

I’m glad that seeing X skin will be uncommon , dare I say , even rare , on someone.

So there are plenty of us “casuals” who don’t agree , aren’t whining , and don’t mind folks who have more time to play to have more things.

Nah I have high blood pressure. I like getting stuff, but I dislike having heart attacks in my near future. Its a game, thus I refuse to let it dictate my emotions like how some people do.

I dont know about some of you guys, I plan to play this game as long as or longer than I played the original. So I dont mind if I dont get a legendary till next year or the year after that, as long as I am able to run around with my head cut off. hint hint Mad King CUT MY HEAD OFF hint hint Patience is a virtue my momma beat into my behind.

It is becoming pretty obvious that Arena Net’s feelings about casual players is best summed up with two words, the first beginning with F, and the second ending with U. This Halloween event is only the latest example of “if you don’t grind for ten hours a day you can’t do anything fun.”

How can you people say this? It’s only been one day!

I have to admit, this whole event feels like it’s catered around the gem store so far.

I get this game needs support, but frankly it’s feeling way too greedy at this point. Reminds me -a lot- of Tera to be honest. Throwing away money on a weaponskin instead of giving us a quest to get in game is pretty lame.

I understand this is just Act 1 so I’m hopeful there will be more in game items available with this event.

If not, then this just feels like a huge ad for the Gemstore and gambling money on black chest drops. :/