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So, how is it fair that raids give out stat options that cant be aquired in wvw? or even in pvp? As someone who doesnt enjoy pve im finding it very frustraiting to be forced to raid just to be able to create certain builds and stats combinations to then continue wvw’ing?

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Posted by: Mysticjedi.6053

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Already announced that those stats will be available in LS3.

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LS3? sorry for my GW2 illiteracy :P, Living story 3? if by this you mean they will be availiable by doing the LS3 that is still forcing me to play it, hell i still havn’t finished the HoT story so god forbid i be given this to do hahaha, im really in gw2 for WvW roaming and pvp so… :/ why no gief me this in wvw!!!!!!

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So, how is it fair that raids give out stat options that cant be aquired in wvw? or even in pvp? As someone who doesnt enjoy pve im finding it very frustraiting to be forced to raid just to be able to create certain builds and stats combinations to then continue wvw’ing?

I really don’t care about the ‘fairness’, I think the system is too arcane. I shouldn’t need to spend 20 minutes researching the wiki to find out which prefix goes with which stats and where to go to acquire them (never mind how to acquire them efficiently, using the resources I already own). Why are some stat combinations account bound and others tradeable? Why are some of the intermediate crafting steps bound and others aren’t?

And worse, why are there only a limited number of stat prefixes?


Instead of working on making the current system ‘work’, I’d prefer they scrap it entirely and replace it with something more intuitive.

(e.g. to craft traditional zerker, you’d use 5 parts blood, 3 parts claw, and 3 parts fang — for assassin’s, it would be 5 parts claw, 3 blood and 3 fang. That would allow us to craft any stat combination using stuff already in the game — the only challenge would be recipe & mat acquisition)

John Smith: “you should kill monsters, because killing monsters is awesome.”

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Posted by: EphemeralWallaby.7643

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LS3? sorry for my GW2 illiteracy :P, Living story 3? if by this you mean they will be availiable by doing the LS3 that is still forcing me to play it, hell i still havn’t finished the HoT story so god forbid i be given this to do hahaha, im really in gw2 for WvW roaming and pvp so… :/ why no gief me this in wvw!!!!!!

You don’t know they won’t do it when LW3 comes out. Wait and see.

Also, I doubt you’ll need to do HoT story in order to do LW3 story… you might like the LW3 story…. also something to wait and see.

~EW

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Trepidation Lost.3469

LS3? sorry for my GW2 illiteracy :P, Living story 3? if by this you mean they will be availiable by doing the LS3 that is still forcing me to play it, hell i still havn’t finished the HoT story so god forbid i be given this to do hahaha, im really in gw2 for WvW roaming and pvp so… :/ why no gief me this in wvw!!!!!!

You don’t know they won’t do it when LW3 comes out. Wait and see.

Also, I doubt you’ll need to do HoT story in order to do LW3 story… you might like the LW3 story…. also something to wait and see.

~EW

Yeah, i was just meaning i don’t enjoy pve, i fell like, to aquire stats to use in wvw..i should be able to get them from wvw, not pve :/

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Posted by: Obtena.7952

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You might feel that way … but you’ve been getting your WvW gear from PVE for the last 3.5 years … you think that’s going to change somehow? I think that’s a little unrealistic.

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You might feel that way … but you’ve been getting your WvW gear from PVE for the last 3.5 years … you think that’s going to change somehow? I think that’s a little unrealistic.

Have i ? please tell me how ascended chest drops from pvp and wvw is pve?
Also please inform me on how laruels are pve.
guess you cant.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

We don’t know how they will be acquirable. We only know that they will add more ways to acquire them with the LS3 update (there is only 4 big update per year).

But I agree that the stats are a mess right now. Some exotic insignia cost less than a gold, other cost 15 gold, some are account bound and can take 5 days to craft, same variability with ascended trinket. Do the boring guild mission? They cost the equivalent of 16 gold, don’t want to do them or your guild don’t do them? That will cost you more than 50 then. Unless you want some special stats like assassin or sinister, you gonna need to unlock them with special achievement. Ok good I’ll do that, no problem. Oh but if you want a 2nd pair you gonna need to pay 100 gold, you can’t use guild commendation for those.

It was making sense then they launched their content. They wanted to push people toward certain content, but now it’s just an annoyance.

Thaddeauz [xQCx]- QC GUILD

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Still no update about this?

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Posted by: EphemeralWallaby.7643

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Still no update about this?

ANet’s new policy is that they won’t tell us stuff until it ships. So, we’ll get an update when it ships.

~EW

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basicly admitting they dont care about our reactions anyway so they just do what they want lmao

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basicly admitting they dont care about our reactions anyway so they just do what they want lmao

While I agree that it’s frustrating, it’s also an incredibly responsible business decision.

Software manufacturing (and game development in particular) has a history and reputation for not being able to meet deadlines, finding programming walls that weren’t predictable, and reallocating budgets (thereby dropping projects). Just because a developer has an initial intention to do something, doesn’t mean they can succeed at creating it let alone ship it on time.

I’d rather be pleasantly surprised by an announcement of what I’m getting, then disappointed by an announcement canceling something that was intended.

The first step to treating Molyneux Syndrome is to acknowledge it exists.

~EW

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Do you mean the recipes? Why do you have to pve to unlock the armor/weapon recipes? or acquiring the armor/weapons through reward track?

If you are asking why there is no reward track for HoT stat equipment, because there is. It starts from the Verdint brink reward track, you have to unlock VB (to unlock AB), AB (to unlock TD), TD (to unlock the repeatable Heart of Maguuma). Each of these reward tracks provides you with weapons and armor with your choice of stat selection (sometimes limited to a selection of stat choices).

Granted it’s much easier to activate HoT story mode… walk through the portal, collect your story mode reward and turn to the first vendor to the right and say “Hey Itzel, show me your wares, yup… I’ll buy one of those Minstrel’s insignia’s” or head to AB to get vipers from Exalted. DS for commanders… not sure who uses trailblazers but you get where I’m going.

But that PvE so tough.

EDIT: After all the years … WvW still always a thought, generally after, for cool things everything else gets much easier.

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Trepidation Lost.3469

Do you mean the recipes? Why do you have to pve to unlock the armor/weapon recipes? or acquiring the armor/weapons through reward track?

If you are asking why there is no reward track for HoT stat equipment, because there is. It starts from the Verdint brink reward track, you have to unlock VB (to unlock AB), AB (to unlock TD), TD (to unlock the repeatable Heart of Maguuma). Each of these reward tracks provides you with weapons and armor with your choice of stat selection (sometimes limited to a selection of stat choices).

Granted it’s much easier to activate HoT story mode… walk through the portal, collect your story mode reward and turn to the first vendor to the right and say “Hey Itzel, show me your wares, yup… I’ll buy one of those Minstrel’s insignia’s” or head to AB to get vipers from Exalted. DS for commanders… not sure who uses trailblazers but you get where I’m going.

But that PvE so tough.

EDIT: After all the years … WvW still always a thought, generally after, for cool things everything else gets much easier.

No im talking about accesories and trinkets lol you can only get a limited stat selection form laurels etc, but he raid vendor sells all stats for doing raid only. And lots of people use trailblazer….. Condi war is op with it… Maruaders trinkets crusaders minstrels so many of these stat combinations are really good for wvw, yet its only availiable form pve, a place where berserkers is the main stat, ironic.

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Posted by: Hexinx.1872

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Ah, I see, so the laurel vendors need to be updated. Okay thanks.

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I couldn’t agree more. What’s even worse is the amulets you get from doing story achievements aren’t even unlocked at the laurel vendor, so if you were unfortunate enough to have suffered through the buggy mess that is migraine, you can’t even get another mordrem loop.

As a non raider, having to wait almost a full year for reasonable access to HoT stat ascended trinkets is more than absurd, especially since the next expansion will likely introduce new and better stat combinations, which will make HoT stats obsolete.

These are the types of decision that are making me play the game less and less, which also means I’m less inclined to spend rl money in your cash shop.

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I couldn’t agree more. What’s even worse is the amulets you get from doing story achievements aren’t even unlocked at the laurel vendor, so if you were unfortunate enough to have suffered through the buggy mess that is migraine, you can’t even get another mordrem loop.

As a non raider, having to wait almost a full year for reasonable access to HoT stat ascended trinkets is more than absurd, especially since the next expansion will likely introduce new and better stat combinations, which will make HoT stats obsolete.

These are the types of decision that are making me play the game less and less, which also means I’m less inclined to spend rl money in your cash shop.

Its unbelievable right, oh wait no its not this is what we’ve had since beta XD ‘cough’ zealots’