Guild Wars 2

Give the players enough Mastery Points to max out 2-3 masteries.

From playing BWE1 it seemed there wasn’t enough points to max out one mastery (I may have been wrong) but definitely not enough to do much more than that. I’m doubtful there will be that many more mastery points in the second half of VB than there were in the first which raises a problem.

If the purpose of the BWE2 is to test and bug find, we won’t be able to test and find potential bugs in the higher levels of the masteries. Giving the beta accounts enough mastery points to max out some of the masteries would let everyone test those out.

Perhaps, all those new Beta achievements that award Mastery Points will be the answer.

They want to test how the progression of masteries work. That’s why they’re not resetting the mastery points between BWE1 and BWE2. Your suggestion would go against what they’re trying to test.

A future BWE may do just that, though, if they wish to have that beta tested.

I didn’t have problems getting points faster than I could xp up to use them, thanks to the broken events (though otoh I couldn’t get the activity mastery points because I only got access to one activity the whole weekend, again due to the events). I’m hoping that will change for this BWE.

Seera.5916:

They want to test how the progression of masteries work. That’s why they’re not resetting the mastery points between BWE1 and BWE2. Your suggestion would go against what they’re trying to test.

A future BWE may do just that, though, if they wish to have that beta tested.

No, it wouldn’t go against it. You need to first gain enough XP to finish the mastery then you need to spend mastery points to get the ability. Having enough mastery points to get all the abilities doesn’t stop you from needing to get the experience to finish the masteries. It does however, ensure that you can get all the abilities and not be limited by the artificial scarcity of mastery points in this section of the map.

You can’t test the progression if you don’t have the mastery points to progress with.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Perhaps, all those new Beta achievements that award Mastery Points will be the answer.

My concern was less about the availability of mastery points once HoT releases than with the ability to test higher levels of a mastery without enough mastery points to get them.

Torsailr.8456:

Seera.5916:

They want to test how the progression of masteries work. That’s why they’re not resetting the mastery points between BWE1 and BWE2. Your suggestion would go against what they’re trying to test.

A future BWE may do just that, though, if they wish to have that beta tested.

No, it wouldn’t go against it. You need to first gain enough XP to finish the mastery then you need to spend mastery points to get the ability. Having enough mastery points to get all the abilities doesn’t stop you from needing to get the experience to finish the masteries. It does however, ensure that you can get all the abilities and not be limited by the artificial scarcity of mastery points in this section of the map.

You can’t test the progression if you don’t have the mastery points to progress with.

And obtaining mastery points is part of the progression of masteries. Which is what ANet is currently wanting more feedback on.

Future BWE’s may be put into place to test the higher aspects of the masteries, if ANet wishes them to be tested. They may not. We didn’t get to play test having all available traits before the base game launched.

Torsailr.8456:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Perhaps, all those new Beta achievements that award Mastery Points will be the answer.

My concern was less about the availability of mastery points once HoT releases than with the ability to test higher levels of a mastery without enough mastery points to get them.

Well, as those are Beta achievements, they probably will be available in the BWEs, and not after launch. =)

Torsailr.8456:

If the purpose of the BWE2 is to test and bug find

If you find a bug in any field, it is very welcome to report it. But they do have a very solid Q&A team testing these kind of things as well.

The things they want to test during the beta weekends is not to do the Q&A job, but to see how reception of certain elements is and to see how the new world reacts to large amount of players.

For a reference to what they want us to be testing, see this sticky thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Simpler-Form-for-Testing/

Nothing there bout finding bugs in the higher mastery tiers.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Torsailr.8456:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Perhaps, all those new Beta achievements that award Mastery Points will be the answer.

My concern was less about the availability of mastery points once HoT releases than with the ability to test higher levels of a mastery without enough mastery points to get them.

Well, as those are Beta achievements, they probably will be available in the BWEs, and not after launch. =)

I’m actually curious about those. They reward AP and Mastery points, but will those points remain even after the BWE is over, or when HoT is released?

Zaxares.5419:

I’m actually curious about those. They reward AP and Mastery points, but will those points remain even after the BWE is over, or when HoT is released?

One would presume the points would not remain. Colin has said on a previous livestream that daily achievements earned on beta characters do not remain on your account because the beta character, it’s progress, and everything it earns is tied to that beta character, and when it’s removed, you lose all you gained.

If AP is tied to those achievements it should “disappear” just like everything else when the beta slots are deactivated.