Guild Wars 2

Hello,

I’m making this post as a request that A-Net does not make the same mistake I’ve seen in other games. That is, make content easier over time to allow more players to visit it. All it does is remove the fun of doing said content. If player A has played Content A over many months and defeated it, and player B joins the game after a nerf to Content A, player B will never have a chance to experience Content A, instead he will experience content B (nerf A).

While players that are currently unable to beat content A, might appreciate a nerf to allow them to beat it, it simly dilutes content, and does no one any favors.

Some tasks in the game are meant to be easy, and enroll you into RP or simply allow you to relax. Some content is meant to be difficult. Most pvp players rather a challenging match, than an overwhelmingly easy one. The point of challenging content is to be challenged. If new players join after the nerfs, they will simply assume gw2 doesn’t offer much challenging pve content.

I personally know someone who couldn’t get into this game, as they saw it as a big waste of time. I told him the whole game was end game, and he said: “if this content is end-game and I can do it in my sleep, why bother”. I tried arguing it gets harder, but for an established gamer, Orr isn’t actually all that hard. You can mostly outsmart the AI as always.

So if you succeed in making challenging content. Please leave it as such, so that anyone will get a chance to try their hand at it. The feeling of beating something following many attempts is what a lot of people want with this content. Don’t change it once you release another raid, so players can focus on this new challenging content.

Are you a fan of GW1?

If so, remember Underworld? As people got better and better at it, they actually made it harder to complete! Such as adding skeletons that disenchant, etc. Would appreciate this addition later on, or heck even implement it now with current dungeons.

I hope they don’t nerf raids aswell. Content intended to be difficult should never be downgraded to a laughable level because some individuals can’t overcome it. If the devs have balanced around it and it is doable (specially without bugs), then there is no need to dumb it down.

Players get bored with content when they have no more goals left to complete. Give us good goals, challenging content, etc..

Valento.9852:

I hope they don’t nerf raids aswell. Content intended to be difficult should never be downgraded to a laughable level because some individuals can’t overcome it. If the devs have balanced around it and it is doable (specially without bugs), then there is no need to dumb it down.

I absolutely support this idea. Why not implement it in some RL scenarios?
Senior person olympics? No way, if these old geezers are too feeble to compete in the real olympics, no fame to them.
Special olympics? No way, the disabled should be glad if someone carries their disabled bottoms for example up some stairs.
And by the way, stairs are hard raid content! Never build a ramp beside a stair!
Brail language? If the blind can´t read regular books, who cares? I am not blind yet, so how can this be of concern for me?
Lets pick up all apples from a tree on an alley because there could be someone eating them, for free! Ban ladders from climbing on trees too…

Really, you people sometimes. Want to keep other people away from shinies you own for month because of the off chance that you ever want to return to a raid once, maybe twice because you would be forced to help a friend out and it would be boring for you.

This has already been specifically addressed with respect to lack of new gear tiers. They want defeating these things to remain accomplishments one is proud of.

Torolan.5816:

Valento.9852:

I hope they don’t nerf raids aswell. Content intended to be difficult should never be downgraded to a laughable level because some individuals can’t overcome it. If the devs have balanced around it and it is doable (specially without bugs), then there is no need to dumb it down.

I absolutely support this idea. Why not implement it in some RL scenarios?
Senior person olympics? No way, if these old geezers are too feeble to compete in the real olympics, no fame to them.
Special olympics? No way, the disabled should be glad if someone carries their disabled bottoms for example up some stairs.
And by the way, stairs are hard raid content! Never build a ramp beside a stair!
Brail language? If the blind can´t read regular books, who cares? I am not blind yet, so how can this be of concern for me?
Lets pick up all apples from a tree on an alley because there could be someone eating them, for free! Ban ladders from climbing on trees too…

Really, you people sometimes. Want to keep other people away from shinies you own for month because of the off chance that you ever want to return to a raid once, maybe twice because you would be forced to help a friend out and it would be boring for you.

um….. relevance…

It is more like if in order to host the special olympics, they had to remove the regular olympics. I think people would be upset. When the devs update content to make it easier, NO ONE gets to continue to do the hard content.

Try and get some sleep before responding randomly without thinking through the problem.

I am not against them offering a hard and easy mode. But if they do that, they have to be cautious of reward distribution. I just don’t want to see hard content removed before I’ve even tried it.

I can only imagine the outrage if Dark Souls had an “everything is easier” patch. Anyone looking for the challenge the game used to offer, now without hope for a challenge. Removing content shouldn’t be done too much, and especially with such unique content as Raiding is being hailed as.

I know talking about WoW is taboo, but in that game, I was always more casual. I did all the raids eventually, and found them all to be a snore fest. I was told by many players, including my friends that it used to be fun before the nerfs. I only even enjoyed one raid due to being dragged by a friend into it when it was released, and it was fun. I just didn’t normally have time to dedicate to raiding, and by the time I could organize going to them, they had been reduced to shells.

In response to Torolan:

Do not replace the upcoming olympics with special olympics due to player complaints. If you have to, add the special olympics, but do not REPLACE the old olympics. They are very popular.

Whilst I like hard content too, if it gets to the point most can’t do it, most won’t stick around.

People who don’t stick around, don’t buy things from the gem store.

The solution to this problem is simple. Anet is not going to nerf raid difficulty if they stay popular. Of course, if the raid community overestimated their numbers and popularity of this content, things may change.

So, if raids are really what the community wants, you can sleep well. On the other hand, if they are something that only a small group of vocal people really are interested in…

origin.1496:

Are you a fan of GW1?

If so, remember Underworld? As people got better and better at it, they actually made it harder to complete! Such as adding skeletons that disenchant, etc. Would appreciate this addition later on, or heck even implement it now with current dungeons.

All the Underworld change did was make it harder for balanced teams. The skeletons that go through all defenses were added in attempt to curb shadow form speed clears.

Loboling.5293:

um….. relevance…

It is more like if in order to host the special olympics, they had to remove the regular olympics. I think people would be upset. When the devs update content to make it easier, NO ONE gets to continue to do the hard content.

Try and get some sleep before responding randomly without thinking through the problem.

I am not against them offering a hard and easy mode. But if they do that, they have to be cautious of reward distribution. I just don’t want to see hard content removed before I’ve even tried it.

I can only imagine the outrage if Dark Souls had an “everything is easier” patch. Anyone looking for the challenge the game used to offer, now without hope for a challenge. Removing content shouldn’t be done too much, and especially with such unique content as Raiding is being hailed as.

I know talking about WoW is taboo, but in that game, I was always more casual. I did all the raids eventually, and found them all to be a snore fest. I was told by many players, including my friends that it used to be fun before the nerfs. I only even enjoyed one raid due to being dragged by a friend into it when it was released, and it was fun. I just didn’t normally have time to dedicate to raiding, and by the time I could organize going to them, they had been reduced to shells.

In response to Torolan:

Do not replace the upcoming olympics with special olympics due to player complaints. If you have to, add the special olympics, but do not REPLACE the old olympics. They are very popular.

Ok, if you don´t mind that there will be easier raid ways added when the raid is old and never much played anyway and you want to keep the old raid for memories sake and for the case that you want to someone through, I indeed misunderstood you.