Guild Wars 2

Sadly no Mursaat.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-exalted-pure-dedication/

Whole thing is dumb. Golden cities, should have been mursaat.

Either this is some ruse to throw people off, or anet have really just thrown all the old lore out and are just making up nonsense now. If these things were created 300 years ago then why did glint never mention them, why did we never see them in gw1?

But they were there all along! loooool, pls hire new lore writers anet.

I’m actually ok with this. It leaves the Mursaat open for other storylines. We know the white mantle still operate in Maguuma and so I can see them leading us to a Muraat story. Can’t see all this white mantle stuff not leading to one of the fan favorite races in the lore quite frankly.

I’m kinda glad. Would be a bit odd to be working with them to protect glints egg, when it was glint that basically told the Ascended to go kill them.

The Mursaat have got the devs to lie to us, very cunning, and the Master of Peace thinks he’s getting that egg to safety xD

Swizzle.7982:

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There will always be this person.

I really enjoyed the write up and can’t wait for HoT to be released.

Swizzle.7982:

Whole thing is dumb. Golden cities, should have been mursaat.

Either this is some ruse to throw people off, or anet have really just thrown all the old lore out and are just making up nonsense now. If these things were created 300 years ago then why did glint never mention them, why did we never see them in gw1?

But they were there all along! loooool, pls hire new lore writers anet.

If the elder dragons had risen multiple times before, why didn’t anyone mention them in GW1?

It is also rather funny that you decide that it is weird that Glint didn’t mention the Exalted in GW1 but apparently have no issues whatsoever about her not telling people about the big-kitten freaking dragons killing everything sleeping around the world.

Stories evolve. Or do you really want them to only ever release stuff that was mentioned in the very first installation of a series?

To be honest, the Mursaat never made any sense to me. I mean what with all the Forgotten relics and magics they threw at us in the Living Story, plus the Forgotten and their connection with Glint. Not to mention how similar the creation of the Exalted is to the Ascension from GW1.
Also everyone points to golden cities and assumes Mursaat, but the Forgotten kind of cornered the market on gold architecture. All the signs were there but no one wanted to see them. That and we assumed it had to be an old race instead of a new one and since the Exalted look vaguely similar to the Mursaat… but you know what they say about assuming….

lordkrall.7241:

Stories evolve. Or do you really want them to only ever release stuff that was mentioned in the very first installation of a series?

Stories evolving is one thing, stories being retconned and lore being contradicted is another. Why would glint mention the dragons if they were asleep, it wasn’t very relevant at the time.

Here’s actual GW lore:

“On the fourth day, delirious with hunger, Saul emerged from the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination—a golden city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. The architecture was astounding, and the creatures who lived here were unlike any he had ever seen. Walking down into their city, Saul got a closer look at the denizens of this place. They were tall and thin with strange wing-like appendages that waved about in the slightest breeze. When they walked, their feet seemed not to touch the ground, and when they spoke, it was the most melodious sound he had ever heard. Surely these creatures were the stuff of divinity”

Gold city. In the maguuma. Full of mursaat.

But now there’s another golden city in the maguuma, full of things that look like mursaat but aren’t, built to house an egg (just one egg, not all 200 from gw1, and not the one that had already hatched in gw1!) and this makes sense how?

It’s like the writers for GW2 read half the GW1 wiki and said “YEAH OK, I THINK I GOT IT, FORGOTTEN IN THE MAGUUMA, FORGOTTEN ARE THE BIRD PEOPLE RIGHT?”.

Also I’m pretty certain that 250 years ago the forgotten had already been, you know, forgotten by humans, surviving only in the crystal desert. But just 50 years before that they were turning humans into mursaat lookalikes? I mean, it wasn’t even humans who were custodians of glint back then, it was dwarves, so it makes even less sense.

Swizzle.7982:

Why would glint mention the dragons if they were asleep, it wasn’t very relevant at the time.

Why would glint mention Exulted if there are no dragons for them to fight, and as such, they are asleep, it wasn’t very relevant at the time.

But why do you assume there can only be one golden city? That only one magical race can build in gold? Just because Devs chose not to introduce the Mursaat at this point, does not mean they have been forgotten, or wont appear. Or even, just because the Devs have not mentioned them yet, doesn’t mean they wont appear in the expansion. As it has been said, there have been a lot of white mantle references leading up to a possible Musaat encounter. So be patient my friend, you will have your chance to dance blades with those fowl creatures again.

EdwinLi.1284
Sadly no Mursaat.

Sad is an understatement. No, I don’t think it leaves the Mursaat for future stories, because these cats look so similar. They jacknifed their own lore to create something new instead of just using the great race they right there.

Sometimes new is not better.

Swizzle.7982:

(just one egg, not all 200 from gw1, and not the one that had already hatched in gw1!) and this makes sense how?

Well of course it can’t be the one that already hatched in GW1, now THAT is something that wouldn’t make sense.

Swizzle.7982:

Stories evolving is one thing, stories being retconned and lore being contradicted is another. Why would glint mention the dragons if they were asleep, it wasn’t very relevant at the time.

Here’s actual GW lore:

“On the fourth day, delirious with hunger, Saul emerged from the trees to see what he thought was a hallucination—a golden city of massive towers reaching into the heavens. The architecture was astounding, and the creatures who lived here were unlike any he had ever seen. Walking down into their city, Saul got a closer look at the denizens of this place. They were tall and thin with strange wing-like appendages that waved about in the slightest breeze. When they walked, their feet seemed not to touch the ground, and when they spoke, it was the most melodious sound he had ever heard. Surely these creatures were the stuff of divinity”

Gold city. In the maguuma. Full of mursaat.

But now there’s another golden city in the maguuma, full of things that look like mursaat but aren’t, built to house an egg (just one egg, not all 200 from gw1, and not the one that had already hatched in gw1!) and this makes sense how?

It’s like the writers for GW2 read half the GW1 wiki and said “YEAH OK, I THINK I GOT IT, FORGOTTEN IN THE MAGUUMA, FORGOTTEN ARE THE BIRD PEOPLE RIGHT?”.

Also I’m pretty certain that 250 years ago the forgotten had already been, you know, forgotten by humans, surviving only in the crystal desert. But just 50 years before that they were turning humans into mursaat lookalikes? I mean, it wasn’t even humans who were custodians of glint back then, it was dwarves, so it makes even less sense.

I don’t think you know what a retcon is.
For something to be a retcon it has to actually go against and/or change existing information. Nothing here does that.

You are also making plenty of assumptions. Such as the fact that the thing placed in the city is an egg. Where was this stated? Or are you just assuming?
You are aware that the legacy they talk about is something left BEFORE the game started, whilst the egg was being delivered AFTER the game was released, right?

Lol I love watching people “lore rage”…

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

Why would glint mention Exulted if there are no dragons for them to fight

Maybe a heads up like, “Hey, if you happen to see some guys in the maguuma that look exactly like the things I’m tricking you into murdering and who also live in a golden city, don’t kill them, they’re cool.”

And yeah, Im sure the maguuma is just chock full of golden cities… Everybody and their dog is building them apparently

Swizzle.7982:

Also I’m pretty certain that 250 years ago the forgotten had already been, you know, forgotten by humans, surviving only in the crystal desert. But just 50 years before that they were turning humans into mursaat lookalikes? I mean, it wasn’t even humans who were custodians of glint back then, it was dwarves, so it makes even less sense.

Also this:
After the Transformation of the Dwarves, Glint’s guardianship was passed down to a secretive group of Canthans and Elonians who would later become known as the Zephyrites.

Ranatoa.4869:

Swizzle.7982:

Also I’m pretty certain that 250 years ago the forgotten had already been, you know, forgotten by humans, surviving only in the crystal desert. But just 50 years before that they were turning humans into mursaat lookalikes? I mean, it wasn’t even humans who were custodians of glint back then, it was dwarves, so it makes even less sense.

Also this:
After the Transformation of the Dwarves, Glint’s guardianship was passed down to a secretive group of Canthans and Elonians who would later become known as the Zephyrites.

Yes, AFTER the transformation of the dwarves. This didn’t happen 300 years ago, it happened less than 250 years ago in 1078 AE. 300 years ago the Brotherhood of the Dragon were the guardians of glint and her legacy.

Well i have a hypothesis and this may allow us to figure out what happened to Saul D’Alessio.

Maybe Saul found this city of Tarir and mistakened the Exalted as the Mursaat. He went back to kryta tell the story of the golden city of Tarir and the Exalted. After that returned to the Maguuma and as the lore stated he was unable to find the city again but he did find the Mursaat. However, since both the Exalted had strong magical powers and both can fly Saul may have mistaken the Mursaat to be the Exalted believing the Mursaat were another form of Exalted.

Using Saul’s misunderstanding the Mursaat pretended to be the Exalted. This may also explain why Saul may have been taken away since Saul knows the location of the Exalted which serves Glint and the Mursaat were after all fighting against Glint’s flameseeker prophecies.

Swizzle.7982:

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

Why would glint mention Exulted if there are no dragons for them to fight

Maybe a heads up like, “Hey, if you happen to see some guys in the maguuma that look exactly like the things I’m tricking you into murdering and who also live in a golden city, don’t kill them, they’re cool.”

And yeah, Im sure the maguuma is just chock full of golden cities… Everybody and their dog is building them apparently

Another possibility I’m just going to throw out here, but what if the ascended process we went through in GW1, was incomplete, what if the true propose of ascending is not to kill Mursaat, but to become them; ie, fight fire with fire. And the Exaulted are Mursaat-ified humans, a sub group of Mursaat, having the same powers and cities as the ones we fought in GW1, but coming from a human origin, thus explaining the similarities, and contradictions.

Instead of adding new lore, this could be building upon old, possibly even explaining why we needed to kill the Mursaat, who, if memory serves, only sacrificed the humans they believed were the ones destined to kill them. In other words, preemptive self defense.

Swizzle.7982:

Ranatoa.4869:

Swizzle.7982:

Also I’m pretty certain that 250 years ago the forgotten had already been, you know, forgotten by humans, surviving only in the crystal desert. But just 50 years before that they were turning humans into mursaat lookalikes? I mean, it wasn’t even humans who were custodians of glint back then, it was dwarves, so it makes even less sense.

Also this:
After the Transformation of the Dwarves, Glint’s guardianship was passed down to a secretive group of Canthans and Elonians who would later become known as the Zephyrites.

Yes, AFTER the transformation of the dwarves. This didn’t happen 300 years ago, it happened less than 250 years ago in 1078 AE. 300 years ago the Brotherhood of the Dragon were the guardians of glint and her legacy.

Well she obviously wasn’t expecting them to remain such if she was building her own set of “guardians” to protect her legacy, and rightfully so, once primordus began to stir, the dwarves kinda disappeared into the depths to fight him. Then again she was very prophetic so she may have gotten a clue. Glint obviously had a connection with the gods (i mean the altar where she underwent the ritual to be free from kralkatorrik was in arah (or was it moved there after?) ) and these gods brought humans to tyria.

Now yes the forgotten were just that , forgotten, but what does that stop them from chosing humans, some who may just stumbled or lived in the crystal desert, to undergo the trial. I highly doubt that they’d return to civilization after they became exalted to spread the great news about the forgotten.

Glint, “hmmm, you Dwarves are really helpful, buuuut, I foresee you turning to stone soon… time to get a new army”

dsslive.8473:

Swizzle.7982:

Ranatoa.4869:

Swizzle.7982:

Also I’m pretty certain that 250 years ago the forgotten had already been, you know, forgotten by humans, surviving only in the crystal desert. But just 50 years before that they were turning humans into mursaat lookalikes? I mean, it wasn’t even humans who were custodians of glint back then, it was dwarves, so it makes even less sense.

Also this:
After the Transformation of the Dwarves, Glint’s guardianship was passed down to a secretive group of Canthans and Elonians who would later become known as the Zephyrites.

Yes, AFTER the transformation of the dwarves. This didn’t happen 300 years ago, it happened less than 250 years ago in 1078 AE. 300 years ago the Brotherhood of the Dragon were the guardians of glint and her legacy.

Well she obviously wasn’t expecting them to remain such if she was building her own set of “guardians” to protect her legacy, and rightfully so, once primordus began to stir, the dwarves kinda disappeared into the depths to fight him. Then again she was very prophetic so she may have gotten a clue. Glint obviously had a connection with the gods (i mean the altar where she underwent the ritual to be free from kralkatorrik was in arah (or was it moved there after?) ) and these gods brought humans to tyria.

Now yes the forgotten were just that , forgotten, but what does that stop them from chosing humans, some who may just stumbled or lived in the crystal desert, to undergo the trial. I highly doubt that they’d return to civilization after they became exalted to spread the great news about the forgotten.

Yes, exactly this. 300 years ago the Forgotten started recruiting humans and transforming them into Exalted. 50 years later, the Dwarves turned to stone and handed over their stewardship. The last sighting of the Forgotten was approximately 250 years ago as well. It’s not like the Dwarves just overnight turned over their duty to the first random human they saw, it was something that would have required a lot of planning and preparation. Also consider Glint’s gift of Prophecy, she probably knew exactly what was going to happen to her Dwarven protectors.

/em just sits here and is glad that there’s a chance we’re getting a new hub city

Godservant.8736:

/em just sits here and is glad that there’s a chance we’re getting a new hub city

thats not confirmed, it might be an instances story zone, or even a city built on the open world map like Ebon Hawk… ah, you said chance, I missed that first read through, or did you edit?

EdwinLi.1284:

Well i have a hypothesis and this may allow us to figure out what happened to Saul D’Alessio.

Maybe Saul found this city of Tarir and mistakened the Exalted as the Mursaat. He went back to kryta tell the story of the golden city of Tarir and the Exalted. After that returned to the Maguuma and as the lore stated he was unable to find the city again but he did find the Mursaat. However, since both the Exalted had strong magical powers and both can fly Saul may have mistaken the Mursaat to be the Exalted believing the Mursaat were another form of Exalted.

Using Saul’s misunderstanding the Mursaat pretended to be the Exalted. This may also explain why Saul may have been taken away since Saul knows the location of the Exalted which serves Glint and the Mursaat were after all fighting against Glint’s flameseeker prophecies.

This makes the most sense to me, but I’m no expert on pre-searing lore.

I’m gonna call it, they’re seeding ‘as understood’ lore.

Zayd Akira.1942:

EdwinLi.1284:

Well i have a hypothesis and this may allow us to figure out what happened to Saul D’Alessio.

Maybe Saul found this city of Tarir and mistakened the Exalted as the Mursaat. He went back to kryta tell the story of the golden city of Tarir and the Exalted. After that returned to the Maguuma and as the lore stated he was unable to find the city again but he did find the Mursaat. However, since both the Exalted had strong magical powers and both can fly Saul may have mistaken the Mursaat to be the Exalted believing the Mursaat were another form of Exalted.

Using Saul’s misunderstanding the Mursaat pretended to be the Exalted. This may also explain why Saul may have been taken away since Saul knows the location of the Exalted which serves Glint and the Mursaat were after all fighting against Glint’s flameseeker prophecies.

This makes the most sense to me, but I’m no expert on pre-searing lore.

That’s completely possible too, it was never directly stated, or showed that the Mursaat live in golden cities. And as they DO look alike, it is entirely feasible that this was merely saul’s misunderstanding. Honestly, I think that adds a later of depth to the old lore.

With the same writing team involved in the expansion that were behind the Scarlet fiasco, I don’t expect much quality or consistency in any of the stories.

As long as there are new maps to explore (more than a few dang nab it!), mechanics of the fights are good and the new WvW map rocks – this’ll be a fine expansion.

I don’t think it makes much sense at all for anything but Mursaat to be in the Golden City within the Maguuma Jungle.

GW1 lore, (for the devs who seem to have forgotten*) – Mursaat, Golden City, Maguuma Jungle. [end of part 1] [start of part 2] The Forgotten, Crystal Desert, Exalted (enchanted armours).

GW2 lore.. seems to have combined the two. This is why it makes no sense to have.. Mursaat-esque Exalted in a Golden City in the Maguuma Jungle.

It’s like baking a cake, you use all the basic ingredients – stick it in an oven, and when you take the cake out, it’s suddenly an old photograph of a man sitting at a lake with his two wives. Unexpected and senseless.

And god kitten I do enjoy a good old photograph of a man at a lake, but I’m hungry for cake.

(*lol)

Blockhead Magee.3092:

With the same writing team involved in the expansion that were behind the Scarlet fiasco, I don’t expect much quality or consistency in any of the stories.

As long as there are new maps to explore (more than a few dang nab it!), mechanics of the fights are good and the new WvW map rocks – this’ll be a fine expansion.

They hired a .. um I forget what she is; lore continuity director? something like that, basically its her job to know everything about the history and lore of the gw universe and then direct the story of gw2 from there.
She wasnt around for the scarlet stuff, at least not to my knowledge.
So they don’t really have any excuses left…

Windsagio.1340:

I’m gonna call it, they’re seeding ‘as understood’ lore.

That would be amazing, the mursaat pretending to be exalted, everyone thinks they’re the good guys, we hand over the egg AND BAM, mursaat get their sweet revenge on glint by making dragon omelettes.

I’m not sure the writers are that crafty though.

EdwinLi.1284:

Well i have a hypothesis and this may allow us to figure out what happened to Saul D’Alessio.

Maybe Saul found this city of Tarir and mistakened the Exalted as the Mursaat. He went back to kryta tell the story of the golden city of Tarir and the Exalted. After that returned to the Maguuma and as the lore stated he was unable to find the city again but he did find the Mursaat. However, since both the Exalted had strong magical powers and both can fly Saul may have mistaken the Mursaat to be the Exalted believing the Mursaat were another form of Exalted.

Using Saul’s misunderstanding the Mursaat pretended to be the Exalted. This may also explain why Saul may have been taken away since Saul knows the location of the Exalted which serves Glint and the Mursaat were after all fighting against Glint’s flameseeker prophecies.

If they state this in game, I could get behind it. Would actually be very clever as part of glint’s revenge. Set up a city with things that look like mursaat, have Saul find them, only to have him wind up summoning the mursaat during the charr invasion instead of the good exalted guys, setting off the events which led to us murdering all the mursaat.

But basically anything other than this completely contradicts their own lore.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Forgotten_Enchanted.jpg = Exalted, as in GW1
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/0/0f/Mursaat_caster.jpg = Mursaat, as in GW1

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-exalted-pure-dedication/ = Exalted, as in GW2

Conclusion, Exalted in GW2 look more like Exalted in GW1 than they do Mursaat in GW1, as in both GW1 and GW2 Exalted have armor bodies held together by energy, and no wings, whereas Mursaat have flesh based human-like bodies and wings. So from day one when we first saw the Exalted in HoT’s first teaser trailer, the hype that they were Mursaat was misplaced, as while the two ARE very similar, there has been key differences since GW1, and those differences remain in its sequel.

Was expecting Mursaat, but I’m not disappointed. Exhaled are kitten.
(Besides Mursaat are still in the lore.)

I’m calling it now. The Exalted are created to feed Glint’s baby XD

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

I’m calling it now. The Exalted are created to feed Glint’s baby XD

haha, well dragons do feed on magical energy, and Exalted are practically nothing but, lol

Glint: I need your help, protect my child, so that the future of mankind can be saved.
Exalted Candidates: Oh course Glint, we would die for you!
Glint’s thoughts: haha, foolish humans, Ill have you do just that. -caresses egg- Rest now my love, mommy’s making breakfast

what is the basis here for thinking we possibly could get a new city? where are they hinting at this?

CorrynnStarr.7942:

what is the basis here for thinking we possibly could get a new city? where are they hinting at this?

The lore blog post for exalted says they have a golden city. Well, that doesnt mean it will be a city like LA and DR, it could be more akin to EH.

Tarir in French means to dry up, I wonder if the name has any link with its meaning in French if was indeed inspired by French.

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

I’m calling it now. The Exalted are created to feed Glint’s baby XD

haha, well dragons do feed on magical energy, and Exalted are practically nothing but, lol

Glint: I need your help, protect my child, so that the future of mankind can be saved.
Exalted Candidates: Oh course Glint, we would die for you!
Glint’s thoughts: haha, foolish humans, Ill have you do just that. -caresses egg- Rest now my love, mommy’s making breakfast

Rofl that’s what I was thinking too XD
And then the baby grew up to be an kitten like the rest of the dragon. Causing chaos and destroying Tyria :P

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

I’m calling it now. The Exalted are created to feed Glint’s baby XD

haha, well dragons do feed on magical energy, and Exalted are practically nothing but, lol

Glint: I need your help, protect my child, so that the future of mankind can be saved.
Exalted Candidates: Oh course Glint, we would die for you!
Glint’s thoughts: haha, foolish humans, Ill have you do just that. -caresses egg- Rest now my love, mommy’s making breakfast

Rofl that’s what I was thinking too XD
And then the baby grew up to be an kitten like the rest of the dragon. Causing chaos and destroying Tyria :P

Still wanna know how a dragon grows up to be a baby cat… feels… anti-climatic… like Zhaitain. EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW! LMAO

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

CorrynnStarr.7942:

what is the basis here for thinking we possibly could get a new city? where are they hinting at this?

The lore blog post for exalted says they have a golden city. Well, that doesnt mean it will be a city like LA and DR, it could be more akin to EH.

not familiar with the lore blog post, link plz?

CorrynnStarr.7942:

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

CorrynnStarr.7942:

what is the basis here for thinking we possibly could get a new city? where are they hinting at this?

The lore blog post for exalted says they have a golden city. Well, that doesnt mean it will be a city like LA and DR, it could be more akin to EH.

not familiar with the lore blog post, link plz?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/the-exalted-pure-dedication/

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

I’m calling it now. The Exalted are created to feed Glint’s baby XD

haha, well dragons do feed on magical energy, and Exalted are practically nothing but, lol

Glint: I need your help, protect my child, so that the future of mankind can be saved.
Exalted Candidates: Oh course Glint, we would die for you!
Glint’s thoughts: haha, foolish humans, Ill have you do just that. -caresses egg- Rest now my love, mommy’s making breakfast

Rofl that’s what I was thinking too XD
And then the baby grew up to be an kitten like the rest of the dragon. Causing chaos and destroying Tyria :P

Still wanna know how a dragon grows up to be a baby cat… feels… anti-climatic… like Zhaitain. EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW! LMAO

Zhaitan fight feel like a KingKong movie. He’s holing on to the tower and we’re the bad guys shooting him til he fall to his death lol

Dev, please merge with with the “Mysteries Exhaulted & Mastery UI”

Swizzle.7982:

Whole thing is dumb. Golden cities, should have been mursaat.

Either this is some ruse to throw people off, or anet have really just thrown all the old lore out and are just making up nonsense now. If these things were created 300 years ago then why did glint never mention them, why did we never see them in gw1?

But they were there all along! loooool, pls hire new lore writers anet.

What if I told you…the reason we never saw the exalted in the original Guild Wars…. was because we were the ones controlling them before they underwent their transformation.

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Swizzle.7982:

Whole thing is dumb. Golden cities, should have been mursaat.

Either this is some ruse to throw people off, or anet have really just thrown all the old lore out and are just making up nonsense now. If these things were created 300 years ago then why did glint never mention them, why did we never see them in gw1?

But they were there all along! loooool, pls hire new lore writers anet.

What if I told you…the reason we never saw the exalted in the original Guild Wars…. was because we were the ones controlling them before they underwent their transformation.

We did see them in GW1, following the Forgotten, though we didnt know they were called Exalted at the time. However, that does not discount the theory that our hero character in GW1 joins their ranks

Swizzle.7982:

Whole thing is dumb. Golden cities, should have been mursaat.

Either this is some ruse to throw people off, or anet have really just thrown all the old lore out and are just making up nonsense now. If these things were created 300 years ago then why did glint never mention them, why did we never see them in gw1?

But they were there all along! loooool, pls hire new lore writers anet.

Glint lived for thousands of years, there is no way she would tell us everything in one to three encounters. Our minds wouldn’t be able to absorb everything she knows.

Side Note: She probably wasn’t planning on dieing 300 years ago x.×.

OtakuModeEngage.8679:

We did see them in GW1, following the Forgotten, though we didnt know they were called Exalted at the time.

If you assume that Enchanted Armors were Exalted. And we only saw those in the crystal desert.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Enchanted_armor

reapex.8546:

Glint lived for thousands of years, there is no way she would tell us everything in one to three encounters. Our minds wouldn’t be able to absorb everything she knows.

Ok, but these events, turning humans into exalted and building a golden city in the middle of the maguuma, happened only 50 years before we met glint. We went to the maguuma jungle there were no forgotten there and no exalted there.

The only things humans had turned into were druids.

This whole thing seems like someone took the lore regarding mursaat cities, ascension and the forgotten and the idea of druids being protectors of the maguuma, but only understood half of it all, then tried to mush it back together, getting literally every part of it wrong.

I am beyond disappointed. Golden cities, winged floating creatures…it should have been mursaat.

Some people are making the argument “Ughh well umm the mursaat are bad guys so how could we ever ally with them?”

First of all, look at the Charr
Secondly, the mursaat were the bad guys only from our perspective. If you understand the lore it’s quite clear that they weren’t inheritably evil…more like tried to save themselves.
Thirdly, even if they were “bad guys” 250 years ago…things change. Working with the mursaat over a common interest adds an extra level of dynamic to the story, and there were a million ways they could have gone with that.

I do not know what they were thinking on this one. Instead of building upon well established lore, they shoehorned in a new race of floating spellcasters when we already have two fan-favorites.

I can not help but feel like Anet does not understand their own lore anymore.