Guild Wars 2

A couple of days ago I’ve accidentally sold one of my crafted ascended weapons to a vendor for a second time. Now I can’t find the vendor and break his legs.

Please add some kind of confirmation dialog which would prevent that. It’s so easy to misplace a valuable ascended weapon when changing weapons and later accidentally sell it to regular vendors, especially since there are no ascended equipment bags/boxes which would automatically store unequipped ascended equipment.

I agree this might be a good place for a popup — I doubt anyone’s vending ascended gear en masse.

But meanwhile, do you have the show rarity option on in your bags? That bright pink border around the box might warn you not to sell. I’m pretty sure if you’re selling from the vendor list version you also have pink text there.

Or you could do what I do, if you don’t find it too onerous: I keep my top bags empty, fill in my bottom ones, so anything showing up in normally empty space is de facto new. Then I manually drag the stuff I’m selling up to the top. I can click through it fast without worry. I have almost never sold something in error, and I don’t recall ever failing to notice the error in time for a buy back.

Yes I have the rarity option turned on but when you have a full inventory of stuff and you want to sell it fast its incredibly easy to miss one ascended Mjölnir sitting between a ton of blues and greens.

It sounds like it’d be worth your while to invest in an invisible bag – much cheaper than the cost of remaking a lost ascended item.

I’m not sure an invisible bag will help given the OP said the problem happened when swapping weapons out so his ascended item got mixed in with random stuff.

I have invisible bags but if I, lets say, play an S/F ele and do frequent weapon switches in order to stack might my weapons often land in between other loot. When I come to a vendor to quickly empty my bags there is nothing that prevents me from accidentally selling my ascended weapons. And we are talking about 100g at least for every weapon. That’s is a pretty solid number given that you get 1g in return from vendors.

If you set your bags up right, that shouldn’t happen. If you’re equipping a 2-handed weapon, as long as there’s a space next to it, the weapons you’re removing should land in the invisible bag, even if you’re swapping from 2 weapons to 1.

Do players really sell gear to Vendors? I thought most everyone that sold their gear sold on the TP.

Not sure what the best solution is while waiting for an Ascended Gear Box/Bag, except maybe slow down a bit…or check your weapons each time before leaving a Vendor?

It doesn’t matter what safeguards are in place, this will always happen to someone. Sadly hopefully you’ll learn from this experience for next time.

But I completely agree with above; Just take a little care and use an invisible bag (I use two) and you basically should never have this problem again. Finally, I’d also suggest not to sell items directly from your inventory window (if you do), rather, sell them using the vendor’s window. That way it’s practically impossible to sell something you don’t want to.

I had this happen with my bloodstone rubies. I had atleast 260 saved up(last time I checked bfor next day), and when I got on the next day I realized (too late) that I had accidently sold them to a vendor, and I couldn’t get them back, as I had already spent most of my unbound magic on other things, all I really had to do was farm that up, and I would of had enough to get the asc trinkets, now I have to farm up the unbound magic AND all my rubies again.

If you accidentally sells something, the last tab in the vendor’s menu allows you to buy back everything you sold in that session. Unfortunately that panel gets cleared when you leave the vendor.

I accidentally sold an ascended weapon awhile back, and support was able to send me a replacement. They may be able to help you as well.

I bought an invisible bag shortly afterwards, and it helps somewhat. It doesn’t totally solve the problem, though, as I switch weapons constantly and weapons sneak out into the regular bags sometimes.

There’s no reason you should even be able to vendor ascended gear now that salvaging is an option. ANet should remove that functionality.

onevstheworld.2419:

If you accidentally sells something, the last tab in the vendor’s menu allows you to buy back everything you sold in that session. Unfortunately that panel gets cleared when you leave the vendor.

Small correction: The panel gets cleared when you leave the map the vendor is on/change instances.

Invisible Bags and Safe Bags are your friends in this case, though I do think a popup on such rare items would be nice as a backup

Once again, invisible (safe) bags are not the solution for the problem because unequipping a weapon will put it in the first available slot of the first bag/box that is not full, unless there is an equipment bag/box of the rarity which corresponds to the rarity of the unequipped weapon. That means in order to be absolutely sure that my ascended weapon doesn’t end up in the first available inventory slot I need an ascended equipment bag/box, which as far as I am aware of do not exist in the game.

The only real solution for the problem is adding a confirmation dialog which would warn a player if he or she tries to sell an ascended weapon to a vendor. True, not many players (if any) would ever want to sell a 100g weapon for 1g but adding this option would prevent people from accidentally doing it.

holodoc.5748:

The only real solution for the problem is adding a confirmation dialog which would warn a player if he or she tries to sell an ascended weapon to a vendor. True, not many players (if any) would ever want to sell a 100g weapon for 1g but adding this option would prevent people from accidentally doing it.

My apologies if my response seems at all hardhearted but I believe that you are mistaken. The only real solution to the, “problem” (if it can be called that) is for players to pay attention to what they are doing in situations such as the one you describe. If someone can ignore or not pay attention to the color of the item they are selling they can just click through confirmation dialogue as well. I’ve seen people ask for it to be impossible to sell something because they shouldn’t be expected to read the confirmation dialogue box before clicking on <yes>.

My condolences for the setback you have experienced, but what we need, in my opinion, is not more hand holding but rather more personal accountability.

Again, my apologies if I have given offense, such was not my intention.

holodoc.5748:

Once again, invisible (safe) bags are not the solution for the problem because unequipping a weapon will put it in the first available slot of the first bag/box that is not full, unless there is an equipment bag/box of the rarity which corresponds to the rarity of the unequipped weapon.

As I said above, this is not true. I have an invisible bag as the last of my bags, and my weapons always land in it, and not in the first available space. The trick is to make sure that if you’re switching from one handed weapons to a two handed weapon, there is a space next to the two-handed weapon.

There is no need for such confirmation, now that ascended stuff can be salvaged, that’s what people should do with when they don’t need it anymore instead.

So they should just remove the sell value from all ascended gear. For the rare ascended that can’t be salvaged, you just destroy those if you don’t need them anymore.

Stitch.1794:

As I said above, this is not true. I have an invisible bag as the last of my bags, and my weapons always land in it, and not in the first available space. The trick is to make sure that if you’re switching from one handed weapons to a two handed weapon, there is a space next to the two-handed weapon.

Here is a deal. If you manage to unequip an ascended weapon and it lands in any of your special bags instead in the first available inventory slot I am going to give you 500g. If you can’t you are going to give me 500g. Agreed?

To all the rest, do not waste time on preaching, assessing or whatever you do here. My post was aimed entirely at ANet because this is an issue that needs to be sorted out. End of story.

holodoc.5748:

Stitch.1794:

As I said above, this is not true. I have an invisible bag as the last of my bags, and my weapons always land in it, and not in the first available space. The trick is to make sure that if you’re switching from one handed weapons to a two handed weapon, there is a space next to the two-handed weapon.

Here is a deal. If you manage to unequip an ascended weapon and it lands in any of your special bags instead in the first available inventory slot I am going to give you 500g. If you can’t you are going to give me 500g. Agreed?

To all the rest, do not waste time on preaching, assessing or whatever you do here. My post was aimed entirely at ANet because this is an issue that needs to be sorted out. End of story.

Here you go: https://www.twitch.tv/stitch_mjh/v/88305596

You can keep the 500g, though, I’m not doing this for the money, just trying to help.

Pay more attention. This is purely a user error problem.

There’s only the one colour (pink) items that are vendorable for dead on 1g. They are obviously ascended.

Anyone remember when people asked for a second confirmation box for salvaging exotic + stuff? Question is, where do you end the this ‘Are you sure?’.

Stitch.1794:

Here you go: https://www.twitch.tv/stitch_mjh/v/88305596

You can keep the 500g, though, I’m not doing this for the money, just trying to help.

Then could you please explain this to me?

Why are both Zojja’s Claymore and Dark Harvest ending up in the first available spot in my starter bag when I have a Haloween Pail, an Invisible bag and a Gossamer bag (the exact same setup like yours)?

Haleydawn.3764:

Pay more attention. This is purely a user error problem.

There’s only the one colour (pink) items that are vendorable for dead on 1g. They are obviously ascended.

Anyone remember when people asked for a second confirmation box for salvaging exotic + stuff? Question is, where do you end the this ‘Are you sure?’.

Yes it’s my mistake. Does that mean the game shouldn’t do anything to help me prevent it? I mean who would possibly need a confirmation box for, lets say, dragging out a legendary out of the inventory and destroying it that way? Or for accidentally pressing F12 instead of Print screen and logging out in the middle of a very important event?

The addition of a confirmation box would not in any way aim anyone else except people which accidentally try to sell their valuable ascended weapons. I mean who would possibly want to regularly sell 100g weapons to a vendor for just 1g?

It’s because you’re just unequiping weapons without equipping anything else.

I was unequipping a weapon by equipping something else – when you do that, the weapon being unequipped takes the space vacated by the weapon being equipped.

Stitch.1794:

It’s because you’re just unequiping weapons without equipping anything else.

I was unequipping a weapon by equipping something else – when you do that, the weapon being unequipped takes the space vacated by the weapon being equipped.

Yes but the fact remains, unequipped ascended weapons land in the first available free inventory slot unless they are directly replaced with the exact same weapon that matches the hand type (main hand, off hand) or there is an equipment bag/box of the same rarity type as the unequipped weapon. That’s the problem.

holodoc.5748:

Stitch.1794:

It’s because you’re just unequiping weapons without equipping anything else.

I was unequipping a weapon by equipping something else – when you do that, the weapon being unequipped takes the space vacated by the weapon being equipped.

Yes but the fact remains, unequipped ascended weapons land in the first available free inventory slot unless they are directly replaced with the exact same weapon that matches the hand type (main hand, off hand) or there is an equipment bag/box of the same rarity type as the unequipped weapon. That’s the problem.

Why are you doing it like that? Surely if you’re unequipping a weapon, you’re going to be equipping one to replace it? So do both in one go – it’s fewer clicks, faster, and you have more control over where they land.

And the hand type doesn’t matter – in my video, I was swapping between scepter/focus and staff.

Stitch.1794:

As I said above, this is not true. I have an invisible bag as the last of my bags, and my weapons always land in it, and not in the first available space. The trick is to make sure that if you’re switching from one handed weapons to a two handed weapon, there is a space next to the two-handed weapon.

This is good to know, as having to move weapons back to my invisible bag after going between 1 and 2-handers has annoyed me forever, but you’re not being quite specific enough. My testing indicates that you need to have the space after the weapon free, not just a space next to it. The space before it does not work. And I can tell already that I’m still going to have to move things around on occasion, as the offhand will be going into that specific slot rather than the one it occupied originally, so that’s going to cause things to move around the bag and fill slots that need to be empty on occasion.

Stitch.1794:

Why are you doing it like that? Surely if you’re unequipping a weapon, you’re going to be equipping one to replace it? So do both in one go – it’s fewer clicks, faster, and you have more control over where they land.

And the hand type doesn’t matter – in my video, I was swapping between scepter/focus and staff.

There are at least half a dozen good reasons why a player might want to unequip a weapon instead of just replacing it. Quick example, swapping hands on already equipped weapons without actually dragging the weapons from one slot to another (you can’t just click on main hand then just double click off hand to make a switch). This is especially important when playing, lets say, might stacking elementalist where the time frame for the initial fire field doesn’t allow to have both the hero panel and inventory open to do weapon swapping. In those cases you simply need to do all weapon swaps from within the inventory.

But as I already said, the bottom line is there is currently no mechanism in the game that prevents players from accidentally selling their crafted ascended weapons. With exotics it’s at least possible to get an exotic equipment box which guarantees to store any unequiped exotic weapon in it. Ascended weapons have no such ability since there are no ascended equipment boxes. Hence, my proposal to simply solve the issue at hand because I know I am going to repeat the same mistake again, no matter how much I try not to make it. It’s inevitable.

holodoc.5748:

Yes it’s my mistake. Does that mean the game shouldn’t do anything to help me prevent it? I mean who would possibly need a confirmation box for, lets say, dragging out a legendary out of the inventory and destroying it that way? Or for accidentally pressing F12 instead of Print screen and logging out in the middle of a very important event?

The addition of a confirmation box would not in any way aim anyone else except people which accidentally try to sell their valuable ascended weapons. I mean who would possibly want to regularly sell 100g weapons to a vendor for just 1g?

The difference is when you drag out of you inventory is to destroy something permanently. When you Vendor something you quite clearly see the names of all items you are vendoring, and there’s the back up of the buyback tab. That’s why there’s no confirmation box, it’s because it’s pretty failsafe already aslong as the user pays attention. Let’s not fix something that isn’t broken because people are too used to braindeading their game.

I’ve never sold an ascended item to vendor. Ever. I don’t use fancy-schmancy invisible boxes either.

Haleydawn.3764:

The difference is when you drag out of you inventory is to destroy something permanently. When you Vendor something you quite clearly see the names of all items you are vendoring, and there’s the back up of the buyback tab. That’s why there’s no confirmation box, it’s because it’s pretty failsafe already aslong as the user pays attention. Let’s not fix something that isn’t broken because people are too used to braindeading their game.

I’ve never sold an ascended item to vendor. Ever. I don’t use fancy-schmancy invisible boxes either.

You are reasoning by analogy – if something hasn’t happened to you then it clearly hasn’t happened to anyone else.

The change I am proposing wouldn’t affect your superior race of players in any way, you wouldn’t even notice it. However, for us inferior “braindead” beings, which do make accidental mistakes from time to time, it would be useful.

holodoc.5748:

Haleydawn.3764:

The difference is when you drag out of you inventory is to destroy something permanently. When you Vendor something you quite clearly see the names of all items you are vendoring, and there’s the back up of the buyback tab. That’s why there’s no confirmation box, it’s because it’s pretty failsafe already aslong as the user pays attention. Let’s not fix something that isn’t broken because people are too used to braindeading their game.

I’ve never sold an ascended item to vendor. Ever. I don’t use fancy-schmancy invisible boxes either.

You are reasoning by analogy – if something hasn’t happened to you then it clearly hasn’t happened to anyone else.

The change I am proposing wouldn’t affect your superior race of players in any way, you wouldn’t even notice it. However, for us inferior “braindead” beings, which do make accidental mistakes from time to time, it would be useful.

No not at all. Ofcourse this happens to people, but there are failsafes already.

What I don’t get is why people would support to add extra unneccessary clicks ingame when people protest there’s too much clicking as it is, because a few people can’t pay attention or use the failsafe that is already present?

Haleydawn.3764:

Ofcourse this happens to people, but there are failsafes already.

Please enlighten me – what failsafe does the game provide which prevents me from accidentally selling an ascended piece of equipment to a regular vendor? Buyback is a useful option if you actually see that you made a mistake but it becomes unavailable the moment you leave the map. What then?

I really do not understand how you can advocate a standpoint that absolutely doesn’t affect you in the slightest way. You say you never make those kind of mistakes, right? Then you are never ever going to see the dialog unless you are purposefully attempting to sell an ascended weapon to a vendor but even if you do decide to do it (although I don’t know why you would ever want to do it) you would be selling one-two weapons at most. How on Earth is that “too much clicking”?

It seems to me that you are basically reacting to a suggestion just for the kick of it not because it actually makes any sense. Either way I have presented my suggestion. It’s up to ANet do decide if it would benefit the players or not.

holodoc.5748:

Haleydawn.3764:

Ofcourse this happens to people, but there are failsafes already.

Please enlighten me – what failsafe does the game provide which prevents me from accidentally selling an ascended piece of equipment to a regular vendor? Buyback is a useful option if you actually see that you made a mistake but it becomes unavailable the moment you leave the map. What then?

I really do not understand how you can advocate a standpoint that absolutely doesn’t affect you in the slightest way. You say you never make those kind of mistakes, right? Then you are never ever going to see the dialog unless you are purposefully attempting to sell an ascended weapon to a vendor but even if you do decide to do it (although I don’t know why you would ever want to do it) you would be selling one-two weapons at most. How on Earth is that “too much clicking”?

It seems to me that you are basically reacting to a suggestion just for the kick of it not because it actually makes any sense. Either way I have presented my suggestion. It’s up to ANet do decide if it would benefit the players or not.

This could be done rather easy with a simple “if” statement. If it is Legendary or Ascended send the “are you sure” validation option. All others pass through.

I would vote for an ascended bag instead. Having to confirm every time I vendor an ascended ring would be annoying and WOULD affect more people than just those who don’t pay attention. An ascended bag would actually be useful instead.

Sphinx.8014:

I would vote for an ascended bag instead. Having to confirm every time I vendor an ascended ring would be annoying and WOULD affect more people than just those who don’t pay attention. An ascended bag would actually be useful instead.

I’m much more in favour of this suggestion than another confirmation box.
The OP would be surprised at how many do actually sell ascended stuff, mainly rings, to a vendor. As salvaging them costs fractal relics and 1g for one tool. And there’s a higher chance you don’t get 1g back from the ring in the form of stabilizing matrices.

As I already said, adding ascended bags/boxes would also be a solution, one that is even superior to vendor sell confirmations. It’s nothing unusual for people these days to have multiple ascended equipment pieces, either different armor sets or weapons. Introducing a new tier of bags would be a logical step.

is there ever a reason why you would want to vendor ascended stuff though? maybe that should be removed from even showing up on the vendor list completely

Goatjugsoup.8637:

is there ever a reason why you would want to vendor ascended stuff though? maybe that should be removed from even showing up on the vendor list completely

I think the only reason people would NPC ascended would be in the case of plain ascended ring drops in fractals as they’re not profitable to salvage. Although you can always attune them and then salvage for better returns, it’s not an option for players without HoT. Not 100% on that after the changes to fractal vendors though, but that’s how it was before the last batch of fractal changes; you needed the relevant fractal mastery to purchase agonised essences.

Be sure to buy an invisible bag (or equivalent) for the last bag in any toon. It will hide any gear you have placed in there.

I don’t even understand why Ascended comes up in the selling list, you would think it would work like account bound gear or a Legendary.

Edit: Apparently ascended stuff drops like candy in PvE.

Guess I’ll stick to invisible bags.

I love how you would break the merchants legs for your mistake hahah XD