Guild Wars 2

Giver was three stat combo that gave either boon duration or condition duration.

With the addition of concentration and expertise the four stat combos that include boon duration and condion duration eclipse three stat combos of the stats. This makes no sense.

Did anet forget that Giver existed?

Daniel Handler.4816:

Giver was three stat combo that gave either boon duration or condition duration.

With the addition of concentration and expertise the four stat combos that include boon duration and condion duration eclipse three stat combos of the stats. This makes no sense.

Did anet forget that Giver existed?

Essentially, yes, they did. Giver’s is currently the most disliked set, being holiday themed, has no offensive stats at all, and was from the beginning underpowered even for defense due to 1% boon duration being the most awful buff conceivable. No stat loss could compare to just 1% gain in boon duration. The point was to give boon duration more focus, but instead merely highlighted the fears the developers had of a too strong boon defender and was thus nerfed from the moment it saw day. I still regret trying to make a set and feeling rather dumb. If boon duration wasn’t capped at 100% anyways, and people could push for more duration beyond this using the Giver’s set, it might have had meaning, but never did.

Anything other than zerker exists?

The one to Rule.2593:

Anything other than zerker exists?

Actually, if Giver was weighted properly at 10 stat points = +1% boon duration, a ratio well established in profession stat lines, the Givers would create an actual meaningful choice other that Berserker. There are slots in competitive compositions where that would contribute to total party effectiveness more that ’Zerker.

Which is probably why the Devs are terrified of it.

Giver Weapons are currently over valued for Condition Duration based on new Expertise stat.

A Giver 2h weapon gives 20% condition duration.

While, a Viper 2h weapon gives 7.5% condition duration.

Armour… Not so much.

KellionBane.4956:

Giver Weapons are currently over valued for Condition Duration based on new Expertise stat.

A Giver 2h weapon gives 20% condition duration.

While, a Viper 2h weapon gives 7.5% condition duration.

Armour… Not so much.

However Giver armor gives a flat 1% while minstrel armor can range any between 2 and 6%+ per armor piece.

This is one of the things that I get a huge distaste for the game from.

I had worked hard and farmed up mats to have full givers sets fro most of my characters at the time, simply because I loved boonsharing builds. they were fun for me and gave other players amazing boons and I felt like I was contributing in a way other than yawn snore berserker meta.

Then the talent patch killed most of the boon builds I used.

Fast forward, I heard about a new set of boon gear in the game… What? There’s already a Giver’s set. Ok… times change. how do you get the new set? kittening mastery gated Itzel in Verdant Brink.

If you want people to keep playing in the game you need to quit kicking them while they’re down.

do y’all remember when givers was introduced? A lot of people thought it was OP to borderline OP because the meta was heavily into stacking boon duration as much as possible.

kittening mastery gated Itzel in Verdant Brink.

oh my god not itzel communication mastery, that might take you all of a few days to get

Yes seems the obvious answer but until Winter’s Day hits Tyria I say no. I have hopes that with the release of Winter’s Day (also the original release of the statcombo) they will balance the stats and also finally release an ascended recipe for it.

ThFH.6048:

Yes seems the obvious answer but until Winter’s Day hits Tyria I say no. I have hopes that with the release of Winter’s Day (also the original release of the statcombo) they will balance the stats and also finally release an ascended recipe for it.

This as well. However this is not a change that needed to wait. Giver armor was been rendered useless vs minstrel.