Guild Wars 2

I am not suprised to see many GW2 players refusing to buy the expansion! Or some even thinking of leaving it until they come up with a reasonable offer! I hardly post in this forum, but this morning after seeing what GW2 is selling us , put a big WOW on my mouth! I already have gw2 so why should I pay almost 50 euro and get what I already have including the Heart of Thorns ! All I need is Heart of Thornes , so I assume it must be less! On top of that, we are told that they have done that to attract new players! This is throwing the old players down the drain or what! Buying gems all these years , making them earn alot of money in the ingame shop was not enough, is not enough! Now this! With 50 euro we don’t even get 1 free character slot! We get AGAIN GW2 core and the new expansion! Seriously have they taken us for idiots!
Anyways I stop playing until they come up with a better offer for all and long time players. I have been looking forward to this expansion, but unfortunatly this is not a FAIR deal!

Yup royally screwed. Frankly i didn’t expected this from anet thou, took me quite by surprise considering how experience they are at rolling out expansion with gw1 and never had any issue bout it.

$40 + character slot for revenant, $50 for expanded version and 75$ for ultimate and sales would be through roof and good name kept. But they know better…

I expected around $50 as a price for the expansion, it is not an unusual price. And I do not care if they include the base game for new players. And I have already have a free character slot.

But A-Net has not shown/announced enough new content that is included in HoT to justify this high price. So I will definitely not buy it now and will wait until they show all that will be in HoT.

The price is not what burst my and wifes bubble. We even bought secondary account during the hype 3 months ago.
The thing that kitten us off is that they sell a bundle to all, and after you get your package a person comes running up to you and says: “wait you already have that and takes it away again” leaving you with half a package.

The person who thought that was a great markething idea need to get his school money back, it is the complete opposite of what you want to do.
Normaly you reward people who support your company and helps you raise funds for new products, that you can sell to excisting and new customers. But this is a kick in the nuts for all the customers who supported you (except for the white knight/fanboys and trolls, who will buy your product no matter what you do)

Not gonna buy it

“The person who thought that was a great markething idea need to get his school money back, it is the complete opposite of what you want to do.
Normaly you reward people who support your company and helps you raise funds for new products, that you can sell to excisting and new customers. But this is a kick in the nuts for all the customers who supported you (except for the white knight/fanboys and trolls, who will buy your product no matter what you do)”

I totaly agree with you. Well said. The thing is , people don’t see the trick behind this deal! They know it better than us , that most of the GW2 core players are vétérans. They are the ones that supported this game despite its ups and downs from day ONE. Most of them have no character slot left! I know quiet many players that bought gems for additional character slot. So what good it is to have the expansion and not a character slot!? The answer is , because they know, when you get the expansion, if you can afford you’d run to ingame shop and buy a character slot! If you can’t afford then you grind…keep grinding until …. or never! I am not for FREE stuff but least they could do , give us a free character slot with expansion not GW2 core instead .

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

Maladon.5760:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

If fifty dollars are nothing to you, can you gift me em to my paypal? You said yourself, its nothing so no big deal after all huh? <3

Maladon.5760:

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

I think you forget that gw2 is a global game and not everywhere people earn as much money as in the so called western world.

“Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.”

Speak for your self $50 is half a days pay for me after taxes, I have quite a few bills that I pay before I can fork over $50 I may or may not have; but when I do spend any of my discretionary income I only do it when I know 100% what I’m paying for, I do not make purchases based on hype, and I do not pay for anything with no release date.

Maladon.5760:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

Please, are you even an adult? An real adult who works would value his money real carefully.
When i was a kid, i also believe adults would have easier time buying random stuff, but it’s not true unless you have no social life at all, or no familly, at least not with 3 kids lol.

Maladon.5760:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

If food cost that much here I’d have killed myself years and years ago.

People just don’t make that much money. Most jobs here are $7-9 an hour, with the odd 3rd shift manufacturing job paying 15 an hour. Under 10 an hour = probably no buying games, electronics, etc. Unless you work 2 jobs for much more than 40 hours a week.

Maladon.5760:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

You are confusing value placement with purchasing power.

Maladon.5760:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

Your assumption is subjective, $50 to some is not nothing. Believe it or not there are adults out there that live pay cheque to pay cheque to feed there family. The fact that you assume all adults view $50 as nothing shows you have zero concept of value.

$50 is a standard price for exapnasions for well-known MMO-titles. I think what is annoyign the most is the fact that Anet is giving the base game for free for new players, making the offer seem like: ‘’Buy the game and the expansion for $50’’. Something that is totally useless for veterans since they already have the base game, so why pa $50 when I only need the expansion?

Anet’s thought-process was basically (I assume): we sell the expansion for $50. Since new players may get hyped by the new publicity around GW2 but get put off sicne they don’t have the base game, we just igve it to them for free.

The result is non-fair tretment to the old playerbase that doesn’t even know, until this point, what the expansion is gonna include.

lighter.2708:

Maladon.5760:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

Please, are you even an adult? An real adult who works would value his money real carefully.
When i was a kid, i also believe adults would have easier time buying random stuff, but it’s not true unless you have no social life at all, or no familly, at least not with 3 kids lol.

There’s probably very few of you who grew up with less than I did so believe me, I understand the value of a dollar. You are right, kids are expensive, family in general is expensive, having a social life is expensive. Fifty dollars for a game you’ll play for a long time is not expensive.

“There’s probably very few of you who grew up with less than I did so believe me, I understand the value of a dollar. You are right, kids are expensive, family in general is expensive, having a social life is expensive. Fifty dollars for a game you’ll play for a long time is not expensive.”

The problem is something else! You must look at the deal proposed by Anet! When the GREED gets out of hand this is what happens!
Until days ago they were selling GW2! Some bought GW2 just days ago for about 40 Euro! What about them!?

The following was posted on this forum:

“So last week I bought GW2, I’m more then a little annoyed about the expansion including the base game(with ANET doing this, they are essentially saying the base game is worthless).”

And this is another great comment from another forum!

“As of late, the decisions with trying to bring in newer players after almost 3 years feels like a slap in the face to veteran players. If people aren’t playing this game by this time, it shows that your “Base” game is not what’s going to bring in a TON of new players because that’s what should have happened anyways. It is the veterans that are supporting your company. If you want to bring in new players to help revenue, then that’s your right. However, if you make business decisions that show respect to the core player base, they will throw money at you!"

Anyways sometimes it is good to see what others think as well.

Maladon.5760:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

Yep. Once upon a time I got to spend all the $ from my paper route on stuff because my daddy provided me with all the basics and more. Oddly enough, when I became an “adult” my discretionary income declined.

Zok.4956:

I expected around $50 as a price for the expansion, it is not an unusual price.

I have never heard of $50 expansions, I don’t doubt there are some, but please list some for me.

The reason i probably won’t be buying the expansion as a pre purchase:

-it is expensive for an expansion, i bought the core game for 35 euro a few months after release as a physical copy
-I do not know the amount of content available
-There is no release date yet