Guild Wars 2

So I’ve been slowly working my way towards Glint’s Bastion for my revenant when I noticed something. (And please correct me if I’m wrong.)

Part of this collection requires at least silver at the Sanctum Scramble adventure. From what I’ve read, you can’t access this adventure until after you’ve done the HoT story chapter City of Hope, which is chapter 8.

After looking at the collection requirements for some of the other professions, I don’t see any that are gated by story progression like the revenant is.

I don’t think this is fair. I understand that the revenant came to us as part of HoT, but tying it so intimately with the HoT story boggles me. Why are we forced to complete so many chapters just to get the chance (because it’s not guaranteed that you’ll succeed immediately) to earn the silver you need for this collection? Everyone else can just go to the areas where their adventure requirements are without this hassle.

Is there any chance of this being changed?

There are other requirements that are only doable in Dragon Stand, the last map, same with all elite spec weaps, so chances are you’ll have done this by then.

Even if that weren’t the case, it’s quite easy to get to this point of the storyline, also the adventure can be done on anyone, not just your rev.

You can get to and beat that story instance in under two hours. You can also have a mesmer port you in there.

This is an absurd complaint. That story step unlocks after maybe 1 hour of play. If you take issue with that, you’re gonna love farming map currencies for machined weapons….and farming for plated weapon parts….and map currencies for the plated weapons….and crystaline ore for inscriptions, etc…

Seriously, if this is the sort of stuff that bothers you, these collections are not for you. The adventure is not even remotely the most tedious and time consuming aspect.

Yeah, the machined weapons and associated rng are far worse than the adventure being gated. And to get a machined weapon, you need a plated weapon and that requires a successful dragon stand meta, and for you to have collected the tokens you need in your inventory.

Collections are meant to be more challengimg and they dont lock out your Revenant in any way

See, here’s the thing. Everyone can do those map currency-requiring steps at any time. All the collections have this requirement. That is not what I’m talking about.

I’m talking specifically about how revenants have the single added requirement of having done the story enough to unlock the adventure required for their weapon, when everyone else can just go and do theirs.

I’m sorry you think that this is an “absurd” complaint, but I don’t think it is. I’m thinking there are others out there who, in anticipation of HoT’s release and the revenant, probably did what I did- saved a bunch of Tomes of Knowledge and got that profession to 80 without doing any “real” leveling via questing/storyline. Heck, out of all my characters, only one(!) has done any storyline at all. And I have six level 80 characters.

With that being so easily done, I feel it is a strange decision to gate the revenant’s shield behind story progression. Again, this is specifically talking about just the adventure part of their collection. I didn’t mention any other parts of this collection because every other profession has to do those same things. (And just FYI, as of yesterday I’ve completed my Machined Shield, got my Revenant Cache from 100% in Dragon’s Stand- because I’ve been doing that map a lot, I actually like the meta- and got the treasure mushroom and Herald’s inscription. Aside from the adventure, the only other things I’m lacking are the ones requiring higher masteries- stealth gliding and auric basin resource gathering. Before that, I took three weeks trying to get a chak gerent kill for my Mistward headpiece. So I know that these things are supposed to be hard/take time. I just don’t think it’s fair that I have to have progressed in the story on top of all that when no one else has to.)

You do realise that it’s just the HoT story, and only about a third of it, right? That you don’t need to have touched the original personal story before doing it? You can insta-level your character with tomes, gear it out, run it to the new maps and start immediately. The character doesn’t even need to be a revenant.

I’m not even sure where the fact that people might have leveled with tomes even comes into play, given that you have to be 80 before you can touch the HoT story, so it’s not like you could have made any progress on it while leveling.

Cameron.6450:

You do realise that it’s just the HoT story, and only about a third of it, right? That you don’t need to have touched the original personal story before doing it? You can insta-level your character with tomes, gear it out, run it to the new maps and start immediately. The character doesn’t even need to be a revenant.

I’m not even sure where the fact that people might have leveled with tomes even comes into play, given that you have to be 80 before you can touch the HoT story, so it’s not like you could have made any progress on it while leveling.

Because, again, any other profession can get their collections done without touching the story at all. People who rolled revenants had to level them to 80 whatever way they decided to do so, then unlock herald spec for the collection, then do all the things every other profession has to do for their elite spec weapon, and have to do the story on top of all that. How is that fair to revenants? What makes them so special that their collection is also gated by story progression?

Regardless, apparently I’m the only one who feels this is unfair to one profession when every other one isn’t similarly gated, so I guess I wasted my time in voicing my opinion/concern.

Yes, but every other class has their own requirement. Ydalir requires updraft gliding, is it fair that guardians have to level updraft gliding and revenants do not? Is it fair that engineers have to find their way through tangled depths to get to Drone Race for Fixer upper, and revenants do not? Every collection has their own unique sections. You play the content, then you get the reward. If you want the shield, play the content. As someone said, it takes less than 2 hours. And 2 hours is being very generous.

You don’t have to do the story on your Revenant. It doesn’t matter which of your characters you take through Sanctum Scramble, the chest they earn will unlock the collection item regardless as long as you’ve unlocked Herald by that point.

Now, if your argument is that you shouldn’t have to do any story on any character… that’s a bit silly. Get a Mesmer to portal you inside, if that’s the case. Otherwise, you’ll find that map completion of Auric Basin is likewise gated behind story, and probably complain about that too!