Guild Wars 2

Bug or the Crystal Throne changes as well?

Well as we discussed last night. It seems to be different for every guild.

The screen shots below are for Guild Hall lvl 29 and Guild Hall lvl 30.

There was a forum post earlier about the Crystal growing with your guild level, but I haven’t seen screenshots that are separated by more than 1 level so I’m not really sure.

It’s not a bug if it is happening

I looked for a picture we took right after we got our guild hall and made a new one right now (with lvl 23) and you can see a difference!
This is actually kinda cool

I think it changes every 20 levels.

So there’s an immediate, a level 20-39, and a lvl 40-59(+?)

Well there seems to be a difference between Frostfire’s lvl 23 there and our lvl 29/30. Which is really just one crystal on the left there. So maybe it’s lvl 25?

Another theory I had was that it’s possibly the guild hall restorations that are upgraded make it look different, but I have no idea. (My guild has Arena, Warroom and Market)

It will take a while before we’ve scrounged up any other buildings (if at all, the material requirements are a bit crazy for workshop 2 and tavern 2 and other upgrades seem more fun)

FrizzFreston.5290:

Well there seems to be a difference between Frostfire’s lvl 23 there and our lvl 29/30. Which is really just one crystal on the left there. So maybe it’s lvl 25?

Another theory I had was that it’s possibly the guild hall restorations that are upgraded make it look different, but I have no idea. (My guild has Arena, Warroom and Market)

We have the same buildings and are also missing Tavern 2 and Workshop 2.
So maybe it is the level, maybe you upgraded the mine a little further (we have “lvl” 2).
But I think every 5 levels would be a good possibility.

Nah, then other than the level everything seems to be the same.
And as you can see there’s really not much difference between 29 and 30. (If any at all)
So, unless it’s specific upgrades, like the attribute icons in the Guild Window, it could be every 10 levels from lvl 5 onwards?

That means you’d need to check at lvl 25 again.

That, or it’s like Konig says. Then we need to wait a while before we see any change. ^^

I have a theory, which konig has been generous enough to poke many needed hole in, over at the lore forums about this very thing

It seems they do in fact grow with either guild level or time.

Well we capped our hall the saturday? after launch. I wasn’t there that day. So I haven’t really kept track.

I added my own (simple) theory to the guild hall crystal lore on your thread.

PopeUrban.2578:

It seems they do in fact grow with either guild level or time.

I believe its based on time, my guild hall is only level 16 (Solo player) but the crystals are the same size as the level 30 guild crystals in the posts above.

The throne was always intended to change over time. This is something that the Devs mentioned in hushcited tones.

Vavume.8065:

PopeUrban.2578:

It seems they do in fact grow with either guild level or time.

I believe its based on time, my guild hall is only level 16 (Solo player) but the crystals are the same size as the level 30 guild crystals in the posts above.

If it’s the same then it’s most likely time.

I rewatched the PoI on guild halls again (ep. 25 I believe) and they seemed very hush hush and “we don’t want to spoil anything” about the guild crystal. If so, then it’s more than likely time based, as it wouldn’t be nice if there’s something to miss out on.
We’ll have to wait and see what happens.

Here’s a level 33 hall incase it helps.

As for the upgrades
Major Upgrades

T2 Market
T2 War Room
T2 Tavern
T2 Workshop
T3 Mine

Not sure if all or any effect the crystal but at this points its just a push toward level 40 and Further Exploration for us.

Ok, we hit lvl 24 and I checked the cristal again. and looking at the picture it seems like the lvl 30 one you postet earlier. I can’t really remember the day we claimed the Guild Hall (it was on the same day, or one day after launch) but considering we have a change from 23 to 24 and the lvl33 above this post it could be every 8 lvl.
Or it could look different because you claimed the other Guild Hall.
So many questions

Edit: forgott to add the picture

Edit 2: If someone could check if there is a difference between lvl 31 and 32, that would be nice!

A bit of a bump but I just noticed something not brought up in the thread:

Each upgrade a guild purchases grants guild experience. When a guild’s total guild experience reaches set thresholds, the guild’s level increases. This unlocks new upgrades for the guild to purchase and occasionally has other subtle effects upon a guild’s hall.

Taken from the guild panel’s Guild Index (on main tab), Guild Level entry.

Dunno about others, but the only ‘subtle effect’ I’ve seen denoted is the crystal changes.

And given that my secondary (smaller) guild has been at the same level for nigh 4 weeks now with no crystal change, I’m betting it’s not time.

We recently, and finally build our tavern after a long while, and are now level 48. Somewhere in between 46 and 48 our crystal grew once again. It currently looks like it this. Finally getting more symmetrical again!

Still disappoining that you cant sit on it

My jimmies have been rustled greatly by this ….

Our crystal is literally growing into the halls, walls.

Wow, what level is that at?

FrizzFreston.5290:

Wow, what level is that at?

It’s at 64.