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Posted by: Bbear.7830

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As far as I understand it the Guild Leader will have to be present for any Guild to be able to capture its Hall, since the new Architect permission will be at least initially tied to their ‘top tier’ permission level. I can’t immediately see how else it would work, since someone must by definition have the initial permission to be able to ‘delegate’ it down to other ranks/members.

If a Hall can be captured by ‘ordinary’ Guild Members, each of who automatically unlock the Build permission, then the Leader would need to be able to remove/reassign that permission to be able to maintain any kind of build order/structure – which is likely to cause friction at some level, at least for some Guilds.

Follows that Guilds with ‘absent’ or ‘away’ leaders could be ‘locked out’ until the leader is available for the capture, since no-one else will initially have the right permissions level to be able to unlock the Hall or delegate Build permissions to other members.

The decorations feature is effectively a donation of each members unique decoration unlock to the Guild they are representing at the time – a single use ‘charge’ item that adds x1 of that particular decoration type to that Guilds ‘stock’. Not clear yet exactly how the choice of contributed decoration unlock works – my guess is that it will be the Guild Leader, or whoever initially holds the Architect permission, will be able to choose the specific item from the pool of three that will be initially available (Wyvern/Wall/Copter). If it’s the choice of the individual HoT purchaser, then there may be a lot of ‘unpopular’ choices and an overstock of decorations the guild as a whole may not want/need – for example a whole fleet of copters that would never realistically be used.

Calling it as a safe bet that other ‘non-standard’ and new ‘standard’ decorations will be available later, either as gemstore purchases or through Guild Mission rewards. In effect Transmutation Charges for Guild Halls…and if gemstore bought another income stream for Anet.

Exactly how many Guild Members it will take to clear the Hall maps and capture the Halls will reveal itself once the feature goes live, guess we all have to wait and see.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

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Why do use think a Guild Leader must be present to ‘unlock/capture’ the Guild Hall? Building anything may take some time; it’s not like a guild can immediately start building, as far as I understand. Though, through the Guild Initiative, they may be able to access the necessary materials/items. I’m not sure.

It seemed to me, from the video, that a guild member must only interact with the ‘Crystal’ to ‘claim’ the Guild Hall once the team/group of players have vanquished the Mordrem occupying the Guild Hall of choice.

Still, perhaps I misunderstood.

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Posted by: Rasimir.6239

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Why do use think a Guild Leader must be present to ‘unlock/capture’ the Guild Hall?

Check out the Guild Halls: Taken from the Enemy blog:

At the heart of the ruins, you’ll discover a strange crystal embedded in the earth that was the focus of the Mordrem’s attentions. The crystal shines with magical energy, and it seems the creatures were drawing power from it to feed to Mordremoth. When one of your guild leaders touches the crystal, they can attune it to your guild and cut off the jungle dragon’s influence.

Guilds without active guild leaders do seem to be out of luck here.

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Posted by: Evans.6347

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It’s not unreasonable for them to require an active leader. If this is a problem (and I don’t know if it is), then we need a (better?) way to replace an inactive leader.

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Posted by: Flatley.1620

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Quick question: I am in a guild of one – is getting a guild hall therefore going to be out of reach for me?

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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

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2 years back ago, i was told they do not have any tool to replace the inactive leader with a officer

i think the real reason is that anet does not wish to get involved with guild matters.

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Posted by: Rasimir.6239

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Quick question: I am in a guild of one – is getting a guild hall therefore going to be out of reach for me?

We don’t know at this point. They mentioned “small guilds” several times in their blogs, but whether they are referencing guilds in the 1-5 members size or rather 20-50 is just a guess right now.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Why do use think a Guild Leader must be present to ‘unlock/capture’ the Guild Hall?

Check out the Guild Halls: Taken from the Enemy blog:

At the heart of the ruins, you’ll discover a strange crystal embedded in the earth that was the focus of the Mordrem’s attentions. The crystal shines with magical energy, and it seems the creatures were drawing power from it to feed to Mordremoth. When one of your guild leaders touches the crystal, they can attune it to your guild and cut off the jungle dragon’s influence.

Guilds without active guild leaders do seem to be out of luck here.

My bad. They didn’t seem to stress that particular point in the livestream. Still, the use of plural may mean any officer in the guild, as I don’t know how common Guild Leader(s) are.

I guess we will find out soon enough. /shrug

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Posted by: thomdane.3670

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You can have more than one Guild Leader. This would work for those Guilds that not everyone purchases HoT, including the Guild Leader. Anet has stated that they do not remove a Guild Leader or put old Guild Names back into selection because of their credo that a player should be able to leave and come back as they wish. That is from a direct response I received from them on a question I had. Is this ethical on the Guild Leader’s part? Probably not, if they were not forthcoming about a definitive return date or how to contact them in real life in their absence for situations that may arise (i.e this, Guild Hall Claiming). However, there is nothing stopping that Guild from starting their own as well. I understand the Influence loss and starting over, I’m just giving you the viable options and answers that Anet, from personal experience, will most likely provide you as well.

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Posted by: Menadena.7482

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Quick question: I am in a guild of one – is getting a guild hall therefore going to be out of reach for me?

From how I understand it it looks like non-guild people can help you. Or at least they can temporarily rep your guild.

Which means you can form an alliance of several small guilds. They take one hall then move on to the next.

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Posted by: Bbear.7830

Bbear.7830

My comments were based on the ‘permissions’ associated with Guild Leaders, one of whom always has the ‘top slot’ in relation to ‘admin lower ranks’ – even when that is shared down to 2nd Tier Leaders/Officers, represented by the White sidebar in the Ranks Table.

I guess it will come down to how Anet interprets exactly who qualifies as a ‘Guild Leader’ – the original founder/owner, or just anyone with all current Guild permissions ticked.

The actual claiming through interaction with the Crystal would seem to suggest that while other guilds or even friends from outside a guild could help with the capture, the Hall would be claimed by the Guild ‘Leader’ activating the Crystal. I’m very carefully not going to get into the possibilities for ‘stealing’ a capture if someone else with Leader rank in another Guild gets to the Crystal first, has fast reactions and switches Guilds…

Hopefully the ‘there can be only one’ feature, each Guild being only able to claim one of the Hall types currently available, will prevent temptation and attempts to grab a Hall from the ‘Lead’ Guild trying for it.

My call on ‘guilds of one’ or those with small numbers under 10-15 members is they could well struggle to make a capture without outside help – but that depends on how the maps scale and how easy it will be to recruit/retain outside help to push up numbers for each attempt. I’m also calling the ‘Rent a Zerg’ as something at least some less friendly, or more opportunistic, Guilds may run to generate gold income. Not that different a mind set to selling Dungeons and to a degree open to the same possible abuse – ‘selling X map/hall, join party with Yk gold in wallet or at least Z unbound Legendries in inventory, Crystal ready to be claimed’…

At least it looks like there will be no actual limit on how many attempts to capture a Map/Hall individual Guilds will have…but as my posts suggest, not so sure Anet have fully thought through exactly where this could lead and how it will be implemented/manipulated by players in practice.

On a more practical and positive note those Guilds who organize, by splitting their participating members into parties each with set tasks and designated Commanders, will likely find it easier to clear maps and make the capture.

My thoughts are a ‘spearhead’ group to push/engage mobs in order of priority/threat, with ‘sweepers’ to focus on support and all things AoE and a dedicated group of condition removers to keep everyone else up while clearing – maybe a small ‘advance scouts’ group (yes I’m looking at you Thieves) to path find and give advance warning of what to expect in the next section of the map.

Personally, I’m looking at this as a whole mini-game of its own that could take some time to finish for the smaller less organized Guilds.

Think that about covers it…so feel free to go crazy with the responses

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