Guildadventures

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

after studying this forum and it’s white knights, it just dawned on me, everyone who is white knighting for anet, are pve’rs. The name of the game is guild “wars” which suggest pvp.

as silly as this sounds, it’s quite misleading, almost every major complaint I’ve seen comes from people who love wvw / pvp. While there are places you can player vs player, the mechanics aren’t really cutting edge pvp.

So, I’m starting to think the issue is more fundamental than just pricing, because the price and new additions aren’t really so bad at all ….for an adventure game.

The bigger danger i see in all this, is fatigue – we debate about superficial stuff, but the core issue appears to me that the overall game truly caters to adventurers. While there is no problem at all with guildwars being an adventure game – it’s exhausting for some one that wants guild WARS – aka pvp ….thus so much white knight favoritism that falls on the pve side.

as a pvp vet, I’m saying this because no matter what deal we get ….the game still favors adventurers …….. if the game were called Guildadventures, I’d be much less inclined to be hopeful of a state of the art pvp arena, there would be no need to ask for extra bargains on my part that address this point. Bottom line, it will be easy for the pvp community to get exhausted from frivolous debates that have nothing to do with the real underlying issue.

As an adventurer, the new changes coming up are really exciting – as a pvp’r – i have fixed skill sets, unbalanced matches in wvw and a need to grind for the best stats …that’s not going to change no matter how this expansion is repackaged. Realizing this just makes me realize that debating the white knights is a dead end argument, even if we win, we don’t have a real strategic pvp game.

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Posted by: thomdane.3670

thomdane.3670

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Guild_Wars
It was named so because of the lore, not PvP or GvG. There is another side of the coin, in that PvE and WvW players feel left in the cold because Anet seems to focus on being an E-Sport with competitive PvP. I honestly don’t subscribe to any of these feelings, personally, but only give them an example to show that every person that only plays one main aspect of the game has an angle and opinion. For those of us that play a good mix, we don’t notice such nuances as you folks do. You’re point isn’t entirely wrong, nor is mine, but they aren’t entirely right either. It’s just a matter of perspective. Anet will never get it right for every single person. I’ve read complaints that PvP gets no love, PvE gets no love, and WvW gets no love. All the while the posters seem to feel that the other 2 game modes are getting some love lol.

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

which btw, I’m saying this analytically ……simply because I want to understand what “I’m” finding frustrating, truth is I’m starting to feel exhausted from it.

show me one thing in any of the expansion deals that is intended to appeal to a strategic pvp’r / wvw’r. There isn’t any. A new wvw area is not going to fix unbalanced matches, but it will give players a new area to ‘adventure’

just calling the game “Guildaventures” gives me a sigh of relief, and anet is state of the art with adventurers.

The title seems to be a conflict of interest, as more and more content is focused on adventurers ……and the adventurers are very happy.

Anet might be happier focusing on the audience they are catering to. They may say they want to cater to e-sport, but their packages say they want to cater to adventurers.

That is very confusing for someone looking for a good e-sport game.

Study the forum arguments, a majority of them is pver’s vs pvp’rs. You will not find a hard core pvp only whiteknight. you just wont.

further – as an adventurer, i’m happy…..as a pvp’r i really don’t feel i have a game to get into ‘bragging rights’ type pvp ……the exhaustion factor is making me come to terms with that….and I may just start calling guildwars – guildadventures for myself just so i don’t get myself worked up on a pvp debate.

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Guildadventures

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Posted by: Ricky.4706

Ricky.4706

I’ve thought a lot about this today – so a few more thoughts, in a way that hopefully a developer with pvp in their blood can appreciate……not just a pvp’r …but someone who understands the social aspect of a ‘true’ and ‘hardcore’ pvp community – for the record….a true pvp community ….is much friendlier and closer than a pve community. Much like high level martial artists have nothing but love and respect for each other and praise peace. we may talk smack in forums, but that is nothing more than a stare down before a fight, we study and analyze each other regularly….that naturally leads to closer ties.

with that said ….the problem with sPvP and why it’s not e-sport ready is because….
‘drum roll’

a level 20 gw1 55 monk would destroy a level 80 GW2 warrior.

that is blasphemy!

also know, i’m saying this because i’ve been a part of this genre since it first stepped foot online as a graphic interface. So I humbly, yet confidently AM an authority having been there, done that, lost 1st place to hackers lol :p

so it’s with a sincere care for anet, recognizing them as a true and respectable rpg game developers, you are the best example of what rpg was, is and will be…as far as this vet is concerned, you rightfully hold that torch…… …pvp or pve ….. that i post this.
( if you wanted to throw in an elven cloak and character alignments i wont complain btw… )

GW1 was guildWARS GW2 is guildADVENTURES…..nothing wrong with that, and hopefully my comments will help you consider an rpg mmo vets point of view. I simply LOOOOVE being a noob, so i’m born again with a new name :p

if you can find a way to marry Gw1 with Gw2 from what i’ve said above, that would be like yin meets yang – not a gray area, but 2 distinct views of the rpg genre in dx 11 or 12 even – 64 bit!

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