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Posted by: IAMANDLOVE.3095

IAMANDLOVE.3095

Everything that has happened to GW2 is because of its management. There are many talented people within the company what you can also see in the game (graphics are flawless), but they are restrained and underpaid from what I’ve learned.

While I cannot post more here, drop me a private message if you want to know why things are as they are and why a bright future is highly unlikely.

you seem to know a lot of details about how there corporation works. perhaps you can enlighten us by posting more!

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Posted by: Sicarius.4639

Sicarius.4639

2)WVW is not empty, it’s simply because alot of players are still enjoying the pve content as well that new borderlands are so huge that it still feels empty even the server reached player cap.

That’s weird, where have all my queues gone then? Used to find every borderland queued most days / nights, now you’ll barely have to wait 10mins for EB on reset. It’s dead.

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Posted by: Manasa Devi.7958

Manasa Devi.7958

A few days ago, I spent considerable time in my server’s borderlands trying to find one of the veteran creatures for the daily. Early afternoon local time. Not prime-time, but there’s usually people around at that time.

I didn’t see any activity on mapchat the whole time. Nothing at all. Before HoT, I used to have enough chatter in my chatlog accumulating during the loadscreen that I’d need to scroll up a pages to see it all. Yesterday, nothing at all. And all the way to where the harpies roost now, nothing at all. And I didn’t get there fast. I hadn’t been on the new Deserted Borderlands yet, so I had some trouble getting there.

What’s that? Desert Borderlands? Not Deserted Borderlands? Are you sure? Huh… could’ve fooled me.

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Posted by: Vayne.8563

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2)WVW is not empty, it’s simply because alot of players are still enjoying the pve content as well that new borderlands are so huge that it still feels empty even the server reached player cap.

That’s weird, where have all my queues gone then? Used to find every borderland queued most days / nights, now you’ll barely have to wait 10mins for EB on reset. It’s dead.

WvW is indeed in a bad state right now. Anet knows and has admitted this. It’s taking them longer to fix the issues than intended, but a fix is in the works. Whether that fix ultimately satisfies everyone is yet to be seen, but I suspect, as always, some people will like it and some people won’t. In case it’s not obvious we do have a divided player base.

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Posted by: tontonUB.4687

tontonUB.4687

HoT is a major failure for me.
let’s see why and how :

- no new dungeons is a fault. Lazyness consequence maybe?
- no new fractal instance : 3 new at last + 1 new instanced ‘final boss’ like Mai Trin were required.
- exploration biased through masteries barrage …. stupid and artificially extend expansion lifetime at the cost of pure boredom.
- Useless raid since WOW or RIFT do so much better in quality, quantity, variety, and pure raids numbers.
- WwW: no new maps except homelands, who is so vast it’s nearly unplayble / useless.

Personnally, i went away from such mmo to move on GW cause there were NO raids and free / open gameplay and a lot of dungeons.

What i expected from an honest / consistent expansion was :
- new dungeons (both story and exploration).
- new fractals instead of a lazy revamp on 100 lvls
- revised WvW especially a new main map variation or 2 (to alternate from week to week).
- more elite spec (i suspect Anet to add one elite par expansion every 5,5 years since it took them such a time to deliver such a shame “new” content).
- a more fair treatment for certain elite spec who are pure kitten / garbage, just designed to fill the slot.

GW2 is dead, hail to the king !

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Posted by: Firelysm.4967

Firelysm.4967

If you think WoW is so much better then go for it. Ty

I agree WvW is kittened up, but every thing else is false.
Raids will get own sub-LFG search soon.
If you want easy Raids, go play Fractals, no easy mode, no nerf, get better, get good.

I did play your content, easy content for 3 years, now welcome to my world, where i love hard content, if you want to play my content, get good, get better.

Wish I could get back to GW1.. PvP-GvG. It feels like we are outcasted, not desired or rewarded..

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Posted by: Samnang.1879

Samnang.1879

I hope Anet doesn’t nerf raid; this is the most fun I’ve had. After having spent the past week raiding, every other aspect of the game seems easy as anything.

Raid difficulty is awesome, Anet please don’t nerf. Giving difficulty level means literally nobody will be doing the hard setting.

And why are you trying to make this game into WoW? IF you like WoW so much, play WoW, not GW2.

Please nerf bag types instead of class skills!

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Posted by: Palador.2170

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And why are you trying to make this game into WoW? IF you like WoW so much, play WoW, not GW2.

You’re right, we don’t want GW2 to be like WoW. Strip out the raids immediately. Leave that stuff in WoW, and let GW2 be the game it was supposed to be.

::evil laugh::

But seriously, we have raids, and while I think that was a mistake it’s too late to not have it happen now. So, don’t nerf them. If you’re going to do this, ANet, do it right. Then, if it falls apart on you, you don’t look back and say “We could have done better, and it might have worked if we had”. Instead, you’ll look back and say “That was the best we could do in GW2, and it failed. There’s no point in trying again.”

And if it doesn’t fall apart on you, then the raiders will have awesome raids. It’s a win/win to do this right.

Sarcasm, delivered with a
delicate, brick-like subtlety.

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Posted by: Raziel.4216

Raziel.4216

Everything that has happened to GW2 is because of its management. There are many talented people within the company what you can also see in the game (graphics are flawless), but they are restrained and underpaid from what I’ve learned.

While I cannot post more here, drop me a private message if you want to know why things are as they are and why a bright future is highly unlikely.

you seem to know a lot of details about how there corporation works. perhaps you can enlighten us by posting more!

And please provide us all with a source so we can get into the good stuff too!

If Legend of Zelda came out tomorrow, the usual
forum dwellers would go nuts about the need to
“grind” to get exp, new swords, new potions etc

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Posted by: Teniz.5249

Teniz.5249

… but after a while I ask myself the simple question, what do I get for putting all this hard work into leveling my mastery?… Do I get better ways to farm for gold so I can save up for another legendary item? No!

Sorry but LMFAO omg wtf man I didnt even read the rest you wrote because this was to kitten funny

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Posted by: Sicarius.4639

Sicarius.4639

If you think WoW is so much better then go for it. Ty

I agree WvW is kittened up, but every thing else is false.
Raids will get own sub-LFG search soon.
If you want easy Raids, go play Fractals, no easy mode, no nerf, get better, get good.

I did play your content, easy content for 3 years, now welcome to my world, where i love hard content, if you want to play my content, get good, get better.

Not bought the expansion yet, but this shouldn’t obstruct my view.

3 years they had an audience for their content, now they’ve changed that, let’s see if they have an audience for it.

Wildstar also set this “get good” audience for their content, we saw how well that went for them.

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

I hope Anet doesn’t nerf raid; this is the most fun I’ve had. After having spent the past week raiding, every other aspect of the game seems easy as anything.

Raid difficulty is awesome, Anet please don’t nerf. Giving difficulty level means literally nobody will be doing the hard setting.

And why are you trying to make this game into WoW? IF you like WoW so much, play WoW, not GW2.

While I do not agree raids should be necessarily nerfed, the difficulty thing is easily addressed by offering nerfed rewards to “easy” settings, so as to make that easier version undesirable (a similar thing happened on GW1-the “normal” modes were fun, but often not that much worth running , rewards-wise.)

I do agree that the OP is a bit over eager in his/her opinions, both when he/she was pro HoT, and now when against. This is indeed not WoW, nor should the latter be necessarily be seen as the excellence standard of MMO-ing, regardless success (there are many ways the less popular GW2 is objectively better for a substantial number of players.)

I quite honestly believe that ANet doesn’t believe in max DPS supremacy (regardless current “enrage” timers) and that future Raids will demonstrate that philosophy even better. And even now, there’s a lot of hearsay and speculation about “optimal” group compositions-in the end, I doubt you must have what the random “pro”
players ask for you. Total group synergy and practice seems to be more important than having the precise, “perfect” gear stat combo for it-and I think that’s the right idea as well.

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Posted by: Swift.1930

Swift.1930

2)WVW is not empty, it’s simply because alot of players are still enjoying the pve content as well that new borderlands are so huge that it still feels empty even the server reached player cap.

That’s weird, where have all my queues gone then? Used to find every borderland queued most days / nights, now you’ll barely have to wait 10mins for EB on reset. It’s dead.

There’s two things warbignime is missing…
1) there’s the people who left who ONLY played WvW. They’re still gone. The ones who are left are on on EBG – or on EotM while EBG is full;
2) there’s the people who are not enjoying the PvE content, but are stuck in it trying to regain their guild upgrades for use in WvW.

I’ve yet to see the new BLs with anything vaguely resembling a population, but I’ve seen blobs in EotM become much, much bigger and I’ve seen EBG pretty much constantly queued on resets.

Been there, punned that.

Ehmry Bay Guardian

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Posted by: Rasimir.6239

Rasimir.6239

Simple fact about MMOs: Happy players are too busy enjoying the game to complain. Unhappy players post on the forums.

Edit: Please note the exceptions are white knights and trolls. They have their own agenda.

And people stuck at work trying to get their HoT fix without access to their game . Sadly, these forums don’t give me that these days . I wonder, if I were to block the ten worst “HoT sucks” posters that turn up in every one of these threads, would I have much left to read?

Anyway, except for the decline of WvW, which is disappointing (although I personally enjoy the new borderlands more than eb, but I’ve never been an eb person), I’m still having a blast in pretty much every aspect of HoT. But then I’ve never been a reward-focused person, but an avid explorer and collector of fun, surprising, or amazing moments .

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Posted by: AWACS.6537

AWACS.6537

If the mechanics are stupidly easy, then why did the OP start so many threads to nerf HoT content?

No.

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Posted by: pepsis.5384

pepsis.5384

If you think WoW is so much better then go for it. Ty

I agree WvW is kittened up, but every thing else is false.
Raids will get own sub-LFG search soon.
If you want easy Raids, go play Fractals, no easy mode, no nerf, get better, get good.

I did play your content, easy content for 3 years, now welcome to my world, where i love hard content, if you want to play my content, get good, get better.

Well, we’ll just have to wait and see wont we. If “your content” can net ArenaNet the revenue it needs to continue on this path. Because the content you and others like you call “too easy” or “boring” has kept this game blooming for 3 years now. When you change the cook at your restaurant you will surely attract new customers but you always run the risk of losing your current.