Guild Wars 2

Does anybody know what will happen to all Customized Guild Ranks that have specific Rights Assigned to them?

Will the Old Rights remain intact?

Will the New Rights be given out based on the level of Old Rights?

Will the New Guild Rights remain un-assigned until a player with an “Edit Ranks” permission properly assigns them?

Will the Guild’s membership have their Ranks reset to some default rank?

Hope ANet might shed some light on these questions.

Diku

Anyone got any info on this?

Darn, I wish that had been in the thread prepping for the Q&A. It’s an excellent question, especially if they are changing the granularity of the permissions — how will they translate?

One good thing about my guild being so small at the moment, we can trust everyone in it. Larger guilds might have some issues with unscrupulous sorts pouncing before they can be restricted.

Hopefully Seth and his team have thought of this! One possible answer would be to give the guild leader full permissions and every other member none until the leader designates ranks and permissions. But that could be an enormous headache for a guild of 500 people.

I doubt they would touch ranks and permissions for already established guilds that are grandfathered in. Why should they? If guild memberships were reset to some common level it would cause problems everywhere. How would the guild leader get back in position if everyone either had no permissions or if everyone had all permissions.

I really hope so.

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

This is kind of on the same idea I have an idea to replace guild armor. Instead of purchasing a set of armor for the guild (no this is not a cape) Why not be able to purchase the emblem and place it on the existing armor where you want. Kind of like going into the self style hair kit. each piece of chest armor has a place to put a guild emblem. Once its in place that’s where it will stay but it will be soul bound not account bound. That will take away the need for capes and no clipping issues with it

Seth Chadwick.5317:

Your custom ranks will still be there and will for the most part have the same permissions set. You should check them over post HoT ship to make sure everything is still how you want it and to set the new permissions.

There are two types of new permissions, those that replace old ones and those that are just new.
All the “just new” ones will be unset for existing ranks other than leader.
The ones that replace old ones will be set to whatever the one they are replacing is set to.

Example of replaced permissions:
“Guild Stash Deposit” will no longer exist and instead you will see “Guild Stash – Deposit Items” and “Guild Stash – Deposit Gold”, both the new permissions will be set to whatever “Guild Stash Deposit” was set to.

Example of a new permission:
“Arena Decorator” is just new and will not be set on any of your custom ranks.

Also some permissions went away and where not replaced. An example of this is “Display Guild Emblem”. This permission in practice did nothing at all and so was removed to reduce clutter. You will not see it in any of your custom ranks post HoT.

How does the game determine “leader” rank because we don’t have one of those anymore.

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

I very much agree with this.
I wanted to reward people for recruiting, but I don’t want to give them enough power to take out the entire guild in one sweep.

This is one great topic. Thank you Seth for the explanation of how things will work.

Khisanth.2948:

Seth Chadwick.5317:

Your custom ranks will still be there and will for the most part have the same permissions set. You should check them over post HoT ship to make sure everything is still how you want it and to set the new permissions.

There are two types of new permissions, those that replace old ones and those that are just new.
All the “just new” ones will be unset for existing ranks other than leader.
The ones that replace old ones will be set to whatever the one they are replacing is set to.

Example of replaced permissions:
“Guild Stash Deposit” will no longer exist and instead you will see “Guild Stash – Deposit Items” and “Guild Stash – Deposit Gold”, both the new permissions will be set to whatever “Guild Stash Deposit” was set to.

Example of a new permission:
“Arena Decorator” is just new and will not be set on any of your custom ranks.

Also some permissions went away and where not replaced. An example of this is “Display Guild Emblem”. This permission in practice did nothing at all and so was removed to reduce clutter. You will not see it in any of your custom ranks post HoT.

How does the game determine “leader” rank because we don’t have one of those anymore.

what do you mean? Leader is the top most rank in the rank list.

NTDK.4897:

Khisanth.2948:

Seth Chadwick.5317:

Your custom ranks will still be there and will for the most part have the same permissions set. You should check them over post HoT ship to make sure everything is still how you want it and to set the new permissions.

There are two types of new permissions, those that replace old ones and those that are just new.
All the “just new” ones will be unset for existing ranks other than leader.
The ones that replace old ones will be set to whatever the one they are replacing is set to.

Example of replaced permissions:
“Guild Stash Deposit” will no longer exist and instead you will see “Guild Stash – Deposit Items” and “Guild Stash – Deposit Gold”, both the new permissions will be set to whatever “Guild Stash Deposit” was set to.

Example of a new permission:
“Arena Decorator” is just new and will not be set on any of your custom ranks.

Also some permissions went away and where not replaced. An example of this is “Display Guild Emblem”. This permission in practice did nothing at all and so was removed to reduce clutter. You will not see it in any of your custom ranks post HoT.

How does the game determine “leader” rank because we don’t have one of those anymore.

what do you mean? Leader is the top most rank in the rank list.

Well if it is just based on the order in that list then it is simple.

Seth Chadwick.5317:

Your custom ranks will still be there and will for the most part have the same permissions set. You should check them over post HoT ship to make sure everything is still how you want it and to set the new permissions.

There are two types of new permissions, those that replace old ones and those that are just new.
All the “just new” ones will be unset for existing ranks other than leader.
The ones that replace old ones will be set to whatever the one they are replacing is set to.

Example of replaced permissions:
“Guild Stash Deposit” will no longer exist and instead you will see “Guild Stash – Deposit Items” and “Guild Stash – Deposit Gold”, both the new permissions will be set to whatever “Guild Stash Deposit” was set to.

Example of a new permission:
“Arena Decorator” is just new and will not be set on any of your custom ranks.

Also some permissions went away and where not replaced. An example of this is “Display Guild Emblem”. This permission in practice did nothing at all and so was removed to reduce clutter. You will not see it in any of your custom ranks post HoT.

Thank you for all your work!!!

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

Admin Lower Ranks grants players this ability.

Players can Invite & Kick up to their Rank & Below I think…

Diku.2546:

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

Admin Lower Ranks grants players this ability.

Players can Invite & Kick up to their Rank & Below I think…

yes i know and i hope they wel make 2 ranks from it , 1 for invite and 1 for kick

Hey everyone, we all know that guild permissions will change with HoT in a few days and what i always wondered is why everyone with “admin lower ranks” rights can promote all below him to the same rank he is. Pretty sure you should never give one the rights to do so if have no trust in them but can i yet ask for a separation here? I guess guild members see the point in it.

And you know, since they change/add permissions anyway it’s not that much of a big deal i guess. Leave the “admin lower ranks” permission as it is and separate the part that you promote others to your rank or give a check box within the existing rank “promote to own” or something, Anet has some clever minds.

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

I agree with this, it should be a thing.

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

that would be very usefull if it happens.
so no troll can whipe an entire guild

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

I completely agree on this! It should be implemented!

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

i totally agree bryan. it would make the guild management so much better

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

I see your point! i think this would be great for a guild opton! i have the same thing with some of my officers and i distrust them with kicking because of the emotional bond with that particulair person.

Arenanet should think about this one!

I like Hamster his idea. Please tell us why :o

“will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible
if not please tell us why!!”

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

I AGREE!

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

This +10000!!

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

I second this.

Hamster’s idea is a great one, it would definitely make my life easier (as a co guild leader). I also like the idea (from grizzledlone) for admin lower ranks but not your own rank.
You’d like to have low and mid level officers able to recruit. But there is a higher bar for kicking. I’ve seen stupid arguments blow out of proportion, and petty demoting and kicking occurring. Not being able to demote your peers, and only allowing the highest officers to kick would help moderate the effects of “fits of pique” that can sometimes (often?) occur in games.

Seth Chadwick.5317:

Your custom ranks will still be there and will for the most part have the same permissions set. You should check them over post HoT ship to make sure everything is still how you want it and to set the new permissions.

There are two types of new permissions, those that replace old ones and those that are just new.
All the “just new” ones will be unset for existing ranks other than leader.
The ones that replace old ones will be set to whatever the one they are replacing is set to.

Example of replaced permissions:
“Guild Stash Deposit” will no longer exist and instead you will see “Guild Stash – Deposit Items” and “Guild Stash – Deposit Gold”, both the new permissions will be set to whatever “Guild Stash Deposit” was set to.

Example of a new permission:
“Arena Decorator” is just new and will not be set on any of your custom ranks.

Also some permissions went away and where not replaced. An example of this is “Display Guild Emblem”. This permission in practice did nothing at all and so was removed to reduce clutter. You will not see it in any of your custom ranks post HoT.

Could you please split Admin lower Ranks into 2 separate permissions Admin lower Ranks & Invite new players.

I really hope they will seperate the invite and kick permissions,

Khisanth.2948
How does the game determine “leader” rank because we don’t have one of those anymore.
Leader rank is not determined by how many things they can do, but where the rank is on the list. The leader rank needs to be on the top not the bottom or middle. The reason is they made it so Admin lower ranks means exactly that. The lower you are the lower the rank. You could make some one co leader but if you put it near the bottom of the list the rank above them lets say loyal member (example rank) could kick that co leader. So choose wisely where you put important ranks for leadership.

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

Totally agree with this. Splitting inviting/kicking will really help make things more secure for a guild and avoid bad things happening because of a conflict. You really don’t want to wake up to an empty guild as a guildleader.

Seems like a small change/addition that would make a world of a difference.

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

Splendid idea.
It gives you the tools to promote seperate guildmembers to either inviters and/or members who are allowed to kick.
It therefor gives you the possiblity to let the majorrity invite but only a selected group of f.i. officers the means of kicking.
Please take this into account.

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

Well there is an easy work around for this. Make your lowest rank have the ‘new players here’ box checked and then the second lowest rank can be people that you wish to have the invite ability and so check the ‘admin lower ranks’ button. This allows them to invite people to the guild but they can only kick the people that are in that lowest rank. You can either keep new players there for an introductory period or move them to a different rank whenever you are online.

Twiggy.2138:

hamster bryan.8469:

will there be separated ranks for inviting people and kicking people?
that would be awesome
because there are a lot of people i trust in inviting people . but don’t have the right judgement if something bad happens to kick someone . so please separate if possible

if not please tell us why!!

Well there is an easy work around for this. Make your lowest rank have the ‘new players here’ box checked and then the second lowest rank can be people that you wish to have the invite ability and so check the ‘admin lower ranks’ button. This allows them to invite people to the guild but they can only kick the people that are in that lowest rank. You can either keep new players there for an introductory period or move them to a different rank whenever you are online.

i know the work around i rather have it separated because it messes up all the other ranks in the guild . and i am done explaining why they are the lowest rank in the guild. and yes that gets asked frequently.
it is not motivating people to invite players if the are the lowest of the guild they rather have higher ranks that people will recognize