Guild Wars 2

Will the purchase of HoT (with GW2…. again) reset the infration points or you can expect to get permanent ban the next day you have bought it?

What are you talking about? Permanent ban after buying the expansion?

Just a flesh wound.3589:

What are you talking about? Permanent ban after buying the expansion?

no, if u have several points and you get 1 more for… other reasons than buying the expansion

Buying the expansion should not change your infraction record as it does not change your display name, the name.1234 that they use to track your account history.

How does one look at their infraction record? Not that I have any, to my knowledge, but I’m curious nonetheless.

Seabreeze.8437:

How does one look at their infraction record? Not that I have any, to my knowledge, but I’m curious nonetheless.

As far as I know, you can’t. You get a message from a moderator when you get one, but it’s unknown how long they last so the total you have active after the first one you get is unknown.

Yea, you only know the duration if is a permanent ban

Don’t break the rules of the ToS, and you won’t have to worry about having your account terminated, before or after any purchases.

Good luck.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Don’t break the rules of the ToS, and you won’t have to worry about having your account terminated, before or after any purchases.

Good luck.

That is a known fact, why would you waste time to write it?

If you are not planning on breaking any rules, why ask if you will get your account terminated the day after purchasing HoT?

I guess I don’t understand why you would make a thread about termination, if there was no intention of doing something to cause said termination.

Alex.2908:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

What are you talking about? Permanent ban after buying the expansion?

no, if u have several points and you get 1 more for… other reasons than buying the expansion

You don’t get an infraction point for buying Heart of Thorns.

Buying Heart of Thorns doesn’t change how a player has behaved in the past. If you’ve been naughty and you are trying to better your ways, then this is a good thing, and I believe over a very long period of time, those infraction points will decrease.

But if you just want to teeter over the brink of punishment in your behaviour towards others, acting negatively but in a way to always be one step away from permanent punishment, then of course infraction points shouldn’t be reset just for purchasing HoT. Nor should there be a way to see your infraction points.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

If you are not planning on breaking any rules, why ask if you will get your account terminated the day after purchasing HoT?

I guess I don’t understand why you would make a thread about termination, if there was no intention of doing something to cause said termination.

There are many thing that you dont understand and i agree, this is one of them, i was just curious about how the “system” works and what are the advantages of buying the whole game (at full price) for the 2nd time. First time i bought it i had no inf. points and several characters slots, if i buy it the 2nd time, along with the HoT content, i wont get anything that i didnt already pay for so if i pay again for it i should get some, right? Like no inf. points and some char slots, for the beginning.

And, BTW, do you realize what you ask O.o? Why would i plan to get my account terminated the day after i have spend money on the expansion?)) OMG))

I thought infraction points are only a thing on the forums anyway.

My personal experience is that you might get muted for a set time on the forums, longest for me was two weeks and you will get restrictions related to it like limited amount of posts per hour, no signature and stuff.

This is not connected to playing the game itself. Even if you get perma banned on the forums, you should still be able to play GW2 just fine.

Then again, I have never got in any trouble ingame, as I am the nicest guy ever while playing, so I can’t tell you how ingame punishment will be handled.

Alex.2908:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

If you are not planning on breaking any rules, why ask if you will get your account terminated the day after purchasing HoT?

I guess I don’t understand why you would make a thread about termination, if there was no intention of doing something to cause said termination.

There are many thing that you dont understand and i agree, this is one of them, i was just curious about how the “system” works and what are the advantages of buying the whole game (at full price) for the 2nd time. First time i bought it i had no inf. points and several characters slots, if i buy it the 2nd time, along with the HoT content, i wont get anything that i didnt already pay for so if i pay again for it i should get some, right? Like no inf. points and some char slots, for the beginning.

And, BTW, do you realize what you ask O.o? Why would i plan to get my account terminated the day after i have spend money on the expansion?)) OMG))

But your not buying the game again your buying the expansion going forward.
If yuou want all that the new people get then start fresh and leave the old account to login and grab daily chests.

Randulf.7614:

Simply because your posts are implying exactly that, which suggests you aren’t clearly explaining what the issue is to us.

Buying the expac has no bearing on infraction points at all. You can buy a fresh account with no infraction points, but if Anet discovers its for the same person, they could merge infractions points if the other account has them.

Beyond that, im baffled as to what you are asking

I dont have to explain anything to anyone, just answer the question if you can, if you can NOT than dont waste MY time and your time with all this blabbering.

Clearly Anet stated that by buying HoT you will also buy GW2 but how can i buy GW2 if i dont get the GW2 features. That is a plain simple logic, i hope it helps you.

The reason why people are confused is because you’re asking in an unclear and confusing manner.

However, buying the HoT will not clear out your infractions because it does not change your display name, Alex.2908 in your case, and the display name is how the forum tracks infractions.

Losing the account’s history by changing the display name is the reason why they don’t like to change it as per the thread on it, Suggestion: Change display name. So, you don’t change your display name and you won’t lose your account’s history on the forum by buying the HoT so therefore you won’t lose infractions and getting one more after purchase could possibly lead to a suspension or ban, depending on what the infraction was for and what the next punishment level was.

Alex.2908:

I dont have to explain anything to anyone, just answer the question if you can, if you can NOT than dont waste MY time and your time with all this blabbering.

Clearly Anet stated that by buying HoT you will also buy GW2 but how can i buy GW2 if i dont get the GW2 features. That is a plain simple logic, i hope it helps you.

Your rudeness towards the other player in the first paragraph is starting to show your true colours. That person replied to try and help you understand our perspective – in that, why is it so important for you to know about infractions, if you don’t plan on breaking any rules in the ToS? If you don’t want people to ask you this, then perhaps you shouldn’t be asking your question in a public forum.

Secondly, having no infraction points on an account is not a feature of Guild Wars 2! Fraction points are ‘awarded’ for bad behaviour. Having zero infraction points is for good behaviour, not simply for buying the game.

The free GW2 part of the HoT expansion is for new players, so they don’t have to buy two separate packages, so it’ll have no bearing on your account if you choose to add the HoT part to an existing account.

Alex.2908:

Will the purchase of HoT (with GW2…. again) reset the infration points or you can expect to get permanent ban the next day you have bought it?

Why do you expect to get permanent ban? You mean if you mis-behave once you buy the game you should for some reason not be banned if you bought HoT? What kind of logic is this?

Alex.2908:

Clearly Anet stated that by buying HoT you will also buy GW2 but how can i buy GW2 if i dont get the GW2 features. That is a plain simple logic, i hope it helps you.

Yes, any company (assuming they aren’t highly corrupt and open to bribery) has the right to deny you service if you fail to abide by the terms of service you agreed to, regardless of how much money you spent or when you spent it. It doesn’t matter if you played for a day or for a year, the moment you break the agreement is the moment ANet is no longer obligated to provide you access to the game.

penelopehannibal.8947:

Alex.2908:

I dont have to explain anything to anyone, just answer the question if you can, if you can NOT than dont waste MY time and your time with all this blabbering.

Clearly Anet stated that by buying HoT you will also buy GW2 but how can i buy GW2 if i dont get the GW2 features. That is a plain simple logic, i hope it helps you.

Your rudeness towards the other player in the first paragraph is starting to show your true colours. That person replied to try and help you understand our perspective – in that, why is it so important for you to know about infractions, if you don’t plan on breaking any rules in the ToS? If you don’t want people to ask you this, then perhaps you shouldn’t be asking your question in a public forum.

Secondly, having no infraction points on an account is not a feature of Guild Wars 2! Fraction points are ‘awarded’ for bad behaviour. Having zero infraction points is for good behaviour, not simply for buying the game.

The free GW2 part of the HoT expansion is for new players, so they don’t have to buy two separate packages, so it’ll have no bearing on your account if you choose to add the HoT part to an existing account.

When i have been rude? i have just asked him to realize what he said. You could just say that he was rude to himself, HE WAS, not ME. His copy/paste post from the rule of conduct was totally useless because everybody has a duty to read it and, so, it is known and was not answering my question. As i have already said, if you are going to be off the topic than better dont write anything.

I dont care as much about infraction point as i care about why Anet said that i will have to pay more because i will buy GW2 all over again. I know that i wont get anything for those bucks, the only thing i didnt knew was the infraction points, now i know, just a marketing message, you will only get the expansion and nothing more.

I think the expansion bring a lot of essential features but their marketing message was confusing. So if there will ever be another expansion than i will have to pay the whole amount of money 3x because if i dont i wont get the living story for which i have already pay on the first purchase. On the cover of GW2 disk is written that i will get a “Living story” but wait, i wont, it will have to be purchased separately, which is not really what i have signed for. Is that true? Anyway, just copy/paste a random text from the code of conduct, you dont really have to give me a real answer to my question.

If you’re referring to forum infractions, they won’t be reset unless they’re planning to bring in new forum software. Regardless, your account will not be banned due to infractions you receive on the forums except for in extreme cases.

If you’re referring to account infractions, they won’t be reset. Unless you’ve received a temporary suspension within the last few months and are planning another, you shouldn’t have any problems.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

I thought infraction points are only a thing on the forums anyway.

They are, however they have a similar setup for issuing suspensions. Depending on what you do, you may be given a warning, a temporary suspension or they may permanently close your account. Each time you get infracted, the severity of the suspension increases, which eventually leads to a permanent closure. It starts out as a ~72 hour suspension.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Losing the account’s history by changing the display name is the reason why they don’t like to change it as per the thread on it

It’s only your public identity that is lost. They don’t want people to do something bad, then easily be able to become anonymous again, like how people would ninja raids in other MMOs then change their character’s name. From ArenaNet’s point of view, you’re referenced by your private ID, which is generated when you register your account, is (normally) only seen by ArenaNet and never changes. If you really want to, you can find out the identity of someone that has changed their display name by tracking their post history (their name is simply updated, example).

Alex.2908:

penelopehannibal.8947:

Alex.2908:

I dont have to explain anything to anyone, just answer the question if you can, if you can NOT than dont waste MY time and your time with all this blabbering.

Clearly Anet stated that by buying HoT you will also buy GW2 but how can i buy GW2 if i dont get the GW2 features. That is a plain simple logic, i hope it helps you.

Your rudeness towards the other player in the first paragraph is starting to show your true colours. That person replied to try and help you understand our perspective – in that, why is it so important for you to know about infractions, if you don’t plan on breaking any rules in the ToS? If you don’t want people to ask you this, then perhaps you shouldn’t be asking your question in a public forum.

Secondly, having no infraction points on an account is not a feature of Guild Wars 2! Fraction points are ‘awarded’ for bad behaviour. Having zero infraction points is for good behaviour, not simply for buying the game.

The free GW2 part of the HoT expansion is for new players, so they don’t have to buy two separate packages, so it’ll have no bearing on your account if you choose to add the HoT part to an existing account.

When i have been rude? i have just asked him to realize what he said. You could just say that he was rude to himself, HE WAS, not ME. His copy/paste post from the rule of conduct was totally useless because everybody has a duty to read it and, so, it is known and was not answering my question. As i have already said, if you are going to be off the topic than better dont write anything.

I dont care as much about infraction point as i care about why Anet said that i will have to pay more because i will buy GW2 all over again. I know that i wont get anything for those bucks, the only thing i didnt knew was the infraction points, now i know, just a marketing message, you will only get the expansion and nothing more.

I think the expansion bring a lot of essential features but their marketing message was confusing. So if there will ever be another expansion than i will have to pay the whole amount of money 3x because if i dont i wont get the living story for which i have already pay on the first purchase. On the cover of GW2 disk is written that i will get a “Living story” but wait, i wont, it will have to be purchased separately, which is not really what i have signed for. Is that true? Anyway, just copy/paste a random text from the code of conduct, you dont really have to give me a real answer to my question.

What do infraction points have to do with the living story?

maddoctor.2738:

Alex.2908:

penelopehannibal.8947:

Alex.2908:

I dont have to explain anything to anyone, just answer the question if you can, if you can NOT than dont waste MY time and your time with all this blabbering.

Clearly Anet stated that by buying HoT you will also buy GW2 but how can i buy GW2 if i dont get the GW2 features. That is a plain simple logic, i hope it helps you.

Your rudeness towards the other player in the first paragraph is starting to show your true colours. That person replied to try and help you understand our perspective – in that, why is it so important for you to know about infractions, if you don’t plan on breaking any rules in the ToS? If you don’t want people to ask you this, then perhaps you shouldn’t be asking your question in a public forum.

Secondly, having no infraction points on an account is not a feature of Guild Wars 2! Fraction points are ‘awarded’ for bad behaviour. Having zero infraction points is for good behaviour, not simply for buying the game.

The free GW2 part of the HoT expansion is for new players, so they don’t have to buy two separate packages, so it’ll have no bearing on your account if you choose to add the HoT part to an existing account.

When i have been rude? i have just asked him to realize what he said. You could just say that he was rude to himself, HE WAS, not ME. His copy/paste post from the rule of conduct was totally useless because everybody has a duty to read it and, so, it is known and was not answering my question. As i have already said, if you are going to be off the topic than better dont write anything.

I dont care as much about infraction point as i care about why Anet said that i will have to pay more because i will buy GW2 all over again. I know that i wont get anything for those bucks, the only thing i didnt knew was the infraction points, now i know, just a marketing message, you will only get the expansion and nothing more.

I think the expansion bring a lot of essential features but their marketing message was confusing. So if there will ever be another expansion than i will have to pay the whole amount of money 3x because if i dont i wont get the living story for which i have already pay on the first purchase. On the cover of GW2 disk is written that i will get a “Living story” but wait, i wont, it will have to be purchased separately, which is not really what i have signed for. Is that true? Anyway, just copy/paste a random text from the code of conduct, you dont really have to give me a real answer to my question.

What do infraction points have to do with the living story?

Nothing but it has to do with something else.

Anyway, thank you all for the answers, i just wait the beta weekend and i am glad that Anet’s infraction points system is working so well, GL HF :P

Alex.2908:

Will the purchase of HoT (with GW2…. again) reset the infration points or you can expect to get permanent ban the next day you have bought it?

Depends on your behaviour, of course. If intend to do something to get infracted, then yes, you should expect to get banned eventually. Also, no, if you have behaved badly in the past, Anet is not just going to forget that simply because you paid more money.

maddoctor.2738:

What do infraction points have to do with the living story?

He’s just asking if ANet has the right to deny him access to services he paid for should he break the contract that obligates ANet to provide said service.

Alex.2908:

penelopehannibal.8947:

Alex.2908:

I dont have to explain anything to anyone, just answer the question if you can, if you can NOT than dont waste MY time and your time with all this blabbering.

Clearly Anet stated that by buying HoT you will also buy GW2 but how can i buy GW2 if i dont get the GW2 features. That is a plain simple logic, i hope it helps you.

Your rudeness towards the other player in the first paragraph is starting to show your true colours. That person replied to try and help you understand our perspective – in that, why is it so important for you to know about infractions, if you don’t plan on breaking any rules in the ToS? If you don’t want people to ask you this, then perhaps you shouldn’t be asking your question in a public forum.

Secondly, having no infraction points on an account is not a feature of Guild Wars 2! Fraction points are ‘awarded’ for bad behaviour. Having zero infraction points is for good behaviour, not simply for buying the game.

The free GW2 part of the HoT expansion is for new players, so they don’t have to buy two separate packages, so it’ll have no bearing on your account if you choose to add the HoT part to an existing account.

When i have been rude? i have just asked him to realize what he said. You could just say that he was rude to himself, HE WAS, not ME. His copy/paste post from the rule of conduct was totally useless because everybody has a duty to read it and, so, it is known and was not answering my question. As i have already said, if you are going to be off the topic than better dont write anything.

I dont care as much about infraction point as i care about why Anet said that i will have to pay more because i will buy GW2 all over again. I know that i wont get anything for those bucks, the only thing i didnt knew was the infraction points, now i know, just a marketing message, you will only get the expansion and nothing more.

I think the expansion bring a lot of essential features but their marketing message was confusing. So if there will ever be another expansion than i will have to pay the whole amount of money 3x because if i dont i wont get the living story for which i have already pay on the first purchase. On the cover of GW2 disk is written that i will get a “Living story” but wait, i wont, it will have to be purchased separately, which is not really what i have signed for. Is that true? Anyway, just copy/paste a random text from the code of conduct, you dont really have to give me a real answer to my question.

if you played the game ls1 and 2 were free of charge, since you said you had to pay for it then you dident play those weeks.

Do you go to the store aswell and complain that you dont get that two for one deal they had a month ago today?

Pandaman.4758:

maddoctor.2738:

What do infraction points have to do with the living story?

He’s just asking if ANet has the right to deny him access to services he paid for should he break the contract that obligates ANet to provide said service.

However, if he breaks the TOS it means Anet is not obligated to continue providing this service for him anymore, no matter what he paid for it.

Linken.6345:

Alex.2908:

penelopehannibal.8947:

Alex.2908:

I dont have to explain anything to anyone, just answer the question if you can, if you can NOT than dont waste MY time and your time with all this blabbering.

Clearly Anet stated that by buying HoT you will also buy GW2 but how can i buy GW2 if i dont get the GW2 features. That is a plain simple logic, i hope it helps you.

Your rudeness towards the other player in the first paragraph is starting to show your true colours. That person replied to try and help you understand our perspective – in that, why is it so important for you to know about infractions, if you don’t plan on breaking any rules in the ToS? If you don’t want people to ask you this, then perhaps you shouldn’t be asking your question in a public forum.

Secondly, having no infraction points on an account is not a feature of Guild Wars 2! Fraction points are ‘awarded’ for bad behaviour. Having zero infraction points is for good behaviour, not simply for buying the game.

The free GW2 part of the HoT expansion is for new players, so they don’t have to buy two separate packages, so it’ll have no bearing on your account if you choose to add the HoT part to an existing account.

When i have been rude? i have just asked him to realize what he said. You could just say that he was rude to himself, HE WAS, not ME. His copy/paste post from the rule of conduct was totally useless because everybody has a duty to read it and, so, it is known and was not answering my question. As i have already said, if you are going to be off the topic than better dont write anything.

I dont care as much about infraction point as i care about why Anet said that i will have to pay more because i will buy GW2 all over again. I know that i wont get anything for those bucks, the only thing i didnt knew was the infraction points, now i know, just a marketing message, you will only get the expansion and nothing more.

I think the expansion bring a lot of essential features but their marketing message was confusing. So if there will ever be another expansion than i will have to pay the whole amount of money 3x because if i dont i wont get the living story for which i have already pay on the first purchase. On the cover of GW2 disk is written that i will get a “Living story” but wait, i wont, it will have to be purchased separately, which is not really what i have signed for. Is that true? Anyway, just copy/paste a random text from the code of conduct, you dont really have to give me a real answer to my question.

if you played the game ls1 and 2 were free of charge, since you said you had to pay for it then you dident play those weeks.

Do you go to the store aswell and complain that you dont get that two for one deal they had a month ago today?

I have a few from ls2 but i was talking about the ls3, as long as i know ls3 will be available only on HoT and not on GW2. Sure, Anet omitted to write on the cover of the DVD that only ls1 and ls2 will be available (free or with money) for those who does not wish the upgrade.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/support/1-week-ban-on-the-2nd-offence

Don’t break the rules and you won’t get banned.

No, purchase of HoT will not remove your infraction points from your account.

You’re purchasing HoT, not Gw2, gw2 is tacked onto the expansion as a free bonus for anyone who does not own GW2.

The fact that a brand new account had/has no infraction points was/is not a feature of the game. It’s a start condition for a new account. If you’re starting a new account, you should expect that condition. If you’re not starting a new account, you should not.

• Aside: does ANet use the term infraction points with regard to in-game behavior? I’ve only ever seen/heard of the term being used with regard to the forums.

Alex.2908:

Will the purchase of HoT (with GW2…. again) reset the infration points or you can expect to get permanent ban the next day you have bought it?

The individual player has pretty solid control over whether or not they get a ban of any sort.

There is a saying that seems to apply here:

“Dont do the crime if you cant do the time.”