Guild Wars 2

Typically an expansion pack is around 39.99 these days. Regardless, I will pay the 100 for the digital deluxe platinum rediculous edition. I rather pay a little more anyways, then get another season of LS. With that being said I hope they are working on the next one as we speak.

i don’t see the point why so much qq on hot’s pricing. it’s a market strategy to attract new players but of course a bonus for veteran players would be nice too, extra character slot maybe. =P

since i buy gems from the gemstore often, i have no choice but to buy the ultimate edition. the 4K gems is really so hard to resist. XD

It’s one thing to put no new content into the current game. It’s another thing to charge a crazy amount of $ for close to no content called Living Story.

To ask for 45€ for a small expansion (which is probably less then the LS+gemshop skins until now) is way beyond crazy and unrealistic.

Anyone knows if veterans can just buy the 2.000 gems digital deluxe upgrade in gemshop after HoT release and then own it? (20-25€ for the digital deluxe gw2+HoT upgrade on existing accounts is the only realistic and reasonable price!)

Okay, this will be a post in a very confused mindset.
While I am hyped about Guild Wars 2 and Heart of Thorns, the whole preorder marketing they are doing starts to really disgust me.

Yes, it really goes that far.
On one side we have the awesomness and the beauty that screams: Buy me, Buy me.
And right as I am about to pull out my money and slam as much as possible of it on the counter I see the “benefits” , getting me into a screaching halt.

Guild Wars 2 Release
It`s the core games release all over again. Do you remember what we had there?
Standart, digital and physical: 50€
Digital Deluxe, only digital: 70€
Collectors, only phyical: 150€

What was the difference between standart and deluxe?
5 digital items, 3 of them one time use only (one for each new character, though)
So you paid 20€ more for stuff that was only digital and from most you had not a long lasting effect.

If you wanted something for your money, you had to jump the hurdle to 150, which was nice and dandy, but at the same time Skyrim was released, had a better collectors edition for 100€.

Heart of Thorns
Here we have a very confusing picture. We can preorder now. Boxed editions seem to be comming, but there are no details. In fact I don`t even know if their FAQ is actually up to date there.
So far we only have digital stuff, which includes:
- A forced second copy of the core GW2 game for all Versions.
- 4 Digital only items (+Title, Whohoo?)
- A “gift” of their own courency aka 4000Gems, Which is like giving your child monopoly pocket money so he can buy in your own store.

• A character slot* Which should have been in the release from the get go.

Basicly stuff which doesn`t cost them more than the initial creation, which has to be one time (digitial age ftw) and then it runs it`s course.

So the core game is 30€, So I pay roughly 20€ for HoT and 25€ for a character slot and some gemstore stuff (where one is not for you, but for your guild, if you have one. So you pay for their enjoyment as well, oh goody. Btw. I don`t mean it in a bad way. it`s a great idea. It just fails to amaze between the other stuff)

I don`t get it. GW2 had stuff that was lost after you used it mostly and HoT is just overpriced in general so far.
These aren`t even good things.
These are things that you barely look at.

Do you know what the best rewards GW2 had for me? The Hall of Monument skins and I got them for playing great games. Showing my loyality to the franchise and they are awesome.

As soon as GW2 started however and I wanted to continue, I realised I coudn`t go that route anymore. loyality needs to be something in return and this just raises too many questions.
I do not want to feel entitled, I am just rational here. I won`t buy any special edition as long as it isn`t in a box (This time I want it). I am not fine with paying 50€ for something that at this point seems to be worth roughly 20€.
It`s the same that held me back from doing so for the original.
it is a bad deja vu….

Magnus Godrik.5841:

Typically an expansion pack is around 39.99 these days.

Just on other mmo prices, SWTORs just announced xpac will completely retool the game at max level and is free for subscribers.

Core game for new players.
~2400 gems for vets. (Whatever 3 characters slots is)
I could go for that.

As it stands now though, also a bit strange, the core game is no longer for sale… So we can’t even compare price points.

Why do vets have to pay twice?

It has not been delivered yet so there is plenty they can do to toss vets a bone. Gems. Character slots. Letting you decouple the copy of the base game that comes with it from HOT. None of those change the preorders.

1) There should be an option to buy the expac only – pricing to reflect that.
2) Reviews of the actual expac should be read before purchase.
3) Anet ought to post an official reply to alleviate concerns.

John Smith.4610:

InfinitytheSoulWarden.5963:

if you look at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics

You rang?

What’s worse than the marketing department looking at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics?

What?

The consumers looking at the world through the cold cynical eyes of economics.

Anet turned cloak and is going for pidgeon hunting. Did your marketing service forgot to mention that you’ll have to go E-sports with a massive veteran troll population and a skeleton noob player-base?

Let the game begin.

It’s presently 6:34 AM in ArenaNet-Land. They’re not even at work yet. Give them a few hours.

Even if they didn’t change anything they are going to have to address this hot mess. Besides, people have come up with tens of solutions that would keep 97%of the players happy without changing the price, just the contents.

ZeftheWicked.3076:

$50/€40/£35 is too much for an expansion – it’s 45€ to start with.
And yes, so far the x-pac looks like roughly 20-30% extra content compared to base. So the price is not yet justified in my eyes.

I want to buy Heart of Thorns on it’s own – this too. If i link HoT with my base game account i’m saying farewell to 5 new slots i would get with new account, but i don’t like running an account farm here.

The Expansion adds a new class, but does not add a new character slot – and finally this. I got an empty slot for reve, but that’s still just being sleezy. It’s common courtesy to give slots for new professions/jobs/classes especially if they’re payed content (and you can’t play revenant without x-pac).

If only one of the above can be tallied up in the poll, then #1 would be it. HoT has yet to proof to me it’s worth the 5/6 of the game’s launch price.

This, this and this. 100% completely agree. I want HoT for a fair/reasonable expansion price. This is not a fair deal, and I will absolutely NOT be buying it in these conditions.
Honestly I don’t care what I’m missing out on, I’ll switch to another game (like Fallout 4) and buy HoT after a year, while it being in the bargain bin.

Valento.9852:

Then they try to soften the anger by openly stating “core game is a FREE BONUS, xpac is INDEED $50 alone”. lol wtf

And that tells me they are completely missing the point. It’s not about the price (which looks a little steep compared to the relative prices of the GW1 campaigns in the same frranchise, but is still reasonable). It’s about the inclusion of a freebie for new players while people like me, who spent three years and a lot of money on this game, don’t even get access to the content we allegedly paid for with those 45€ unless we pay an additional 10€ for a character slot. It’s unreasonable to assume that, after three years, people have saved one of their original slots for the revenant and thus won’t need another slot, or expect them to delete characters they might have spent hundreds of hours on in order to try a new class they might not even like.
This is still the Guild Wars franchise, so this is going to get measured against the existing game(s) no matter what, and the fact of the matter is that especially veteran players are used to getting character slots whenever a new class was introduced with a new campaign. That is what we know, which makes it so baffling that Anet decided to not do it this time and instead expects us to make an unrelated purchase so we can actually experience the content we bought with the expansion.
It’s ultimately Anet’s decision how to handle this, but I’m not sure that alienating a large group of players to make them spend a little more money short-term is smart; happy players spend a lot of money in the long run. Me? I’ll be wary to spend another dime on the shop in the future.

The simple solution is to give those who don’t “redeem” that freebie core game a character slot instead. Problem solved, players happy.

tovadaun.6304:

Derdhal.6908:

rapthorne.7345:

Did people go insane and claw the walls when they merged the original GW trilogy in to one pack for a lower cost?

Did they go mad and scream scam when WoW merged it’s first three expansions in to the base game cost?

No problem about merging existing things but this is not the case. It’s an expansion you must buy with base game from the very beginning.

You’re not understanding…
When WoW Vanilla came out, it was $50 the Deluxe and Collector’s were a lot more. Then Burning Crusade came out. Again $50 base. Wrath of the Lich King was the same. Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria were also $50 for the base xpac. Warlords of Draenor was $70.
Only upon release of Warlords of Draenor did they merge the first 3 (Vanilla, BC and WotLK) and that Base Game is now $20.
You still have to buy Cata, MoP AND WoD to play any new content above lvl70 (where WotLK stops) as well as the fact that after the box sales are finished You Can No Longer Upgrade To A Higher Version (No Base to Deluxe) and if you did not purchase the higher versions- you will never get those in-game extras (that amount to an in-game pet (sometimes a mount unusable in all zones), avatars for StarCraft and banners for Diablo).
So that roll-up/merge took $150 worth of game and made it $20.
Please get facts straight about other games before you dismiss them as examples simply because you feel “I don’t play this game, therefore it does not apply to this situation”.
Right now, for HoT- If you own the game, you get an xpac for $50. You do not know what this all includes. They have not revealed everything yet. They just revealed the Guild Halls for the first Sneak Peek last night and yet more of them is to come Friday.
If $50 has been too much to save since January all I can offer is this-
Since January, if you’d saved $30-40 then take another month and save $10-20 more for the xpac. If you failed to save up for it in the last 6 months- This is not an emergency on the community’s or ANet’s part. It was a failure to plan of yours.
I can’t even apologize for being so blunt. This is life, and this is how it works.

You can disagree with the cost. You can decide it’s not worth the cost to yourself. You cannot demand that a company lower it’s prices because you failed to plan for it and expect it to happen.

To myself and many other vets it is not about the cost. Sure, I would have loved to see a $10 expansion but I knew that would not be the price.

It is all about fairness. Think about it like any other business. You do not treat someone new who walks in off the street better than your current customers. You wind up risking your current customers to another store AND the new customer deciding not to come back anyway.

I’m fine with €45, GvG is worth €45 to me. But locking people away from the Revenant? It doesn’t make any sense. Why would I be locked away from content that I’m already paying for? Old players definitely have filled their character slots by now: there are 8 professions and 5 races !!! Again: why am I locked away from playing content I’ll be paying for? It’s ridiculous!!!

EDIT: I’m going for the ultimate edition or the deluxe edition because of this. But still, not having an extra slot for players that already own the game is awful. I’ve never heard of such a thing in the gaming industry: expansions with locked content that they’ve advertised as being one of the main features.

The only lesson ANet should learn from this is the same lesson my grandmother taught me: “Goed doen is gif”, which doesn’t translate very well but basically comes down to “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”. ANet shouldn’t have included the core game, it’s was a nice idea, definitely not something you’d see other MMO developers doing, but in the end of the day “goed doen is gif”.

Agreed, they both have perfectly viable solutions and will need to say something. For example, if we are buying the base game anyway we should be able to play it, right? Even if it were still tied to me somehow I could at least justify the cost.

OP, very well put and constructive. Nice post.

Sorry guys but this is just such a non-issue. IMHO, this is exactly the way that MMO expansions should be sold. The new hawtness is the important part of the expansion. It is the new content that is going to bring in new players. ArenaNet including the old content is just a way to simplify getting these new players playing the game as soon and as easy as possible.

Getting upset because ArenaNet is “giving away” their 3 year old content to new players when they buy the full priced expansion is just kittened. Do you also complain when Steam (or any other retailer) puts software on sale? You payed full price for that “epic game” you bought on Day One a couple of years ago and here is Steam selling that same game (and even throwing in all the DLC content) for 75% off the price you paid. How dare they devalue your original investment?!? Do you demanding a refund or other considerations from Steam for this affront to your wallet?

I know, I want to believe the core game is free but at the back of my mind it’s "What if they included the core game for “free” just to increase the price? What if the xpac actually costs 40 and I have to pay 10 more to subsidize the new players’ bundle?"

Well said OP, lets hope Arena Net pays attention.

I already bought the $100 version of the preorder without realizing how much I am being cheated. It seems more beneficial to rebuy the game and get a second account than preordering with my current account. A lot of people are talking about an extra character slot but I don’t even think that’s enough. I recently bought the core game for my boyfriend thinking that everyone would have to buy the expansion and the core game separately. If I had known he could have gotten the core game free I would have waited. You are punishing your loyal customers. I hope that you do reevaluate what you are doing and also compensate the people who have already preordered an upgrade to their current account.

Breaking Bad.6241:

rapthorne.7345:

There will be continued content development of HoT over time, it’s not a case of what comes at launch is what you get and that’s that.

The continued content will be handsomely paid for by gem purchases for outfits, minis, magic carpets and such.

Pet Rock, such buy, much value, w0w.
That’s something a friend of mine noticed. They can easier sell their playerbase a rock than an expansion.

Alright so Im wondering why the standard edition is $50 which is €45 as the price is in euros, but why does the deluxe- and ultimate edition have the same price in dollars and euros? when €100 is $113 and €75 is $85 so Anet is earning more from european players who buy the the deluxe – or ultimate edition in euros?

ArrogantHero.4965:

Conncept.7638:

ArrogantHero.4965:

People on these forums are complaining about the value of the GW2 expansion. I believe that everyone is titled to there opinion, fair enough. BUT if you have ever went to go see a movie when it first came out YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!!! You say GW2 expansion cost too much but you will spend $10-$20 to see a 2 hour movie.

At least we don’t make asinine assumptions, because no, in fact, I wouldn’t ever pay 20 dollars for a movie. Firstly because a new movie is only $9-$12 where I live, and second because I always wait for them to go to Redbox or the dollar theatre.

If that is in fact true, rejoice, you might not be a hypocrite.

Same here. Generalizing is unfair when I stopped watching movies because it’s cheaper easier at home

Because MONEY!!! <($)-($)>

I liked the original Guild Wars way better:
“Expansion” is a stand-alone game with a full-game price tag to reflect it. If you add said game to an existing account, you get extra character slots on that account to compensate.

Especially now, since they basically include the original game completely, there should be something extra for existing players paying the same price.

I’m not pre-purchasing, and I’m honestly considering not buying it at all.
It’s steam summer sale atm, I’ll take my €54.99 (price of HoT + an extra character slot), and I’ll go play something else.

LyricDawnhagen.7803:

Sorry guys but this is just such a non-issue. IMHO, this is exactly the way that MMO expansions should be sold. The new hawtness is the important part of the expansion. It is the new content that is going to bring in new players. ArenaNet including the old content is just a way to simplify getting these new players playing the game as soon and as easy as possible.

Getting upset because ArenaNet is “giving away” their 3 year old content to new players when they buy the full priced expansion is just kittened. Do you also complain when Steam (or any other retailer) puts software on sale? You payed full price for that “epic game” you bought on Day One a couple of years ago and here is Steam selling that same game (and even throwing in all the DLC content) for 75% off the price you paid. How dare they devalue your original investment?!? Do you demanding a refund or other considerations from Steam for this affront to your wallet?

Also missing the point. It’s not that we don’t want newbies to have the core game thrown in, which they need to play the HoT content they pay for. It’s that veteran players don’t get what they need to play all of the new content as well – a.k.a. a character slot. In order to play the new class we bought access to, we need to make another purchase (or delete an old character, making part of the time we spent in the game null and void, and time, unlike money, is something I can never get back), and that is what makes us and our support over the years feel very much unappreciated. That is all.

Gotta say this is a HUGE disappointment from a company I have supported and defended for the last 10 years. Now IF I get access to a 2nd account (with full HoT) and the HoT on my original account, the $50 is reasonable (tho I dislike being forced into buying a 2nd account), but I do not think this is the deal being offered. Not sure why a separate package including the core game and a discount priced one for ($30) Veterans is not possible. It’s not the $20 as much as the feeling I’m being gouged by a company I have supported for over a decade.

Frankly, $50 is just too high for what I have seen being made available at this point (I’d pay the $50 for the $80 package possibly). Just making sure Anet is aware that this decade long supporter is going to turn his back on this offer and wait for HoT to be discounted (and if they don’t offer a different package, that will happen rather soon after release).

Very disappointed long time supporter of Anet here.

Sad to see my thread got buried under tons of complaints. But I guess thats expected.

this is worse in the UK

US Prices are $50/$75/$100
UK Prices are £35/£60/£80
for reference, if we convert the british prices into dollars, we get $55/$94/$125
so why is it that I should pay as much for the delux as an american pays for the ultimate? hardly seems fair.

Not even korean grind MMOs are this stupid and greedy right now.

yanipheonu.5798:

Largest flaw in this whole theory: it’s not an equivalent value. It doesn’t cost Anet ten dollars to give a new player an account. It just costs whatever it does to activate the account and keep them on them on the servers.

The $50 will go to the same places it usually does: development time, advertisement, the usual business. GW2 vanilla does not cost 20 percent of HoT’s budget. That’s absurd.

This in all likelyhood costs very little for Anet at this point, and as such, even if GW2 vanilla was not included with the expansion, we would not see much if any impact on the final price.

This expansion would cost the same, with or without new players getting a GW2 account.

And seriously, if the worst thing they do is favour new players a bit, you really gotta see how bad it gets in the really scummy MMOs out there. This ain’t a mobile cash grab, this is just people getting worked up over nothing.

Hell, I wish more companies let new players the vanilla game for buying the expansion.

I’ll explain why it’s not that simple. I understant that new players should be attracted somehow, but this shouldn’t happen at the expenses of older customers.

When this kind of thing went down with other services, such as phone line contracts, cable contracts, it spawned the “boomerang” effect. Which meant, customer lost any loyalty with the service provider.

“Well, I could stay here and pay more for the same service that new users are getting cheaper OR I could switch to another similar provider that offers me more for that same price.”
It happened a lot in the past, because of that companies started to cater more to their longtime customers.

CureForLiving.5360:

The only lesson ANet should learn from this is the same lesson my grandmother taught me: “Goed doen is gif”, which doesn’t translate very well but basically comes down to “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”. ANet shouldn’t have included the core game, it’s was a nice idea, definitely not something you’d see other MMO developers doing, but in the end of the day “goed doen is gif”.

Nice quote, but i’d like to chime in with this “good intention” motive. I’d say it’s very subjective and open to abuse and misused like so many things in this world (politic, religion, patriotic etc). Imagine out of good intention i’d lock you up in a basement to prevent you from getting into accident in the real world or trying to convert you to another religion because i feel that thats the path to salvation and i’m saving you from eternal kitten ation. All those could be carried out in the name of “good intention”.

So i would say nice quote “Goed doen is gif”, kinda off topic but food for thought ^^
For me personally i’d rather not people shoved their “good intention” down my throat against my will but rather have the option to make my own inform decision base on the data at hand.

Devin.3076:

I already bought the $100 version of the preorder without realizing how much I am being cheated. It seems more beneficial to rebuy the game and get a second account than preordering with my current account. A lot of people are talking about an extra character slot but I don’t even think that’s enough. I recently bought the core game for my boyfriend thinking that everyone would have to buy the expansion and the core game separately. If I had known he could have gotten the core game free I would have waited. You are punishing your loyal customers. I hope that you do reevaluate what you are doing and also compensate the people who have already preordered an upgrade to their current account.

Anet already said they are going to do that. If you bought the account recently for your bf just contact support they’ll convert it to a hot pre-purchase.

Arkblue.6129:

yanipheonu.5798:

Largest flaw in this whole theory: it’s not an equivalent value. It doesn’t cost Anet ten dollars to give a new player an account. It just costs whatever it does to activate the account and keep them on them on the servers.

The $50 will go to the same places it usually does: development time, advertisement, the usual business. GW2 vanilla does not cost 20 percent of HoT’s budget. That’s absurd.

This in all likelyhood costs very little for Anet at this point, and as such, even if GW2 vanilla was not included with the expansion, we would not see much if any impact on the final price.

This expansion would cost the same, with or without new players getting a GW2 account.

And seriously, if the worst thing they do is favour new players a bit, you really gotta see how bad it gets in the really scummy MMOs out there. This ain’t a mobile cash grab, this is just people getting worked up over nothing.

Hell, I wish more companies let new players the vanilla game for buying the expansion.

I’ll explain why it’s not that simple. I understant that new players should be attracted somehow, but this shouldn’t happen at the expenses of older customers.

When this kind of thing went down with other services, such as phone line contracts, cable contracts, it spawned the “boomerang” effect. Which meant, customer lost any loyalty with the service provider.

“Well, I could stay here and pay more for the same service that new users are getting cheaper OR I could switch to another similar provider that offers me more for that same price.”
It happened a lot in the past, because of that companies started to cater more to their longtime customers.

I do wonder if Anet and other gaming companies should take a leaf out of internet/mobile phone/tv provider’s books in regards to customer retention being just as important as new customers.

Gray.9041:

this is worse in the UK

US Prices are $50/$75/$100
UK Prices are £35/£60/£80
for reference, if we convert the british prices into dollars, we get $55/$94/$125
so why is it that I should pay as much for the delux as an american pays for the ultimate? hardly seems fair.

With regards to this, is there anything stopping players in the UK and EUR from purchasing the US edition since it’s a digital copy and US/EU players can cross servers?

Op spot on, lets bump this thread to the top show anet what we want. Frankly I’d pay the 50.00 if I got a slot. For the amount of content we are getting 50$ still seems kind of high. Me and the wife will not be purchasing it at this time. So sad.. Looking for another game we can enjoy together, we just both finally made our legendaries to.

This is next level greedy

Anet was doing good until this crap..

What justification is possible for $50 xpac ?? Theres HARDLY any known content announced outside one new class….Will there be new fracs/dungs? new DEs/World Bosses?

As it stand, this is a huge rip off, and its not even debatable. $30-40 I could see as reasonable (just look at other xpac pricing, like D3).

Give me a reason why this is worth $50 bucks…cause it most definetly is NOT… a lot of the stuff being added is coming to the base game alone (all the big systematic changes).. why bother dropping $50 on a fruitless xpac.. this is a pathetic way to treat the veterans who have been playing this game for years.. I don’t even think blizzard is this greedy.

Until full content information of the xpac is released, there is no justification for putting kitten price tag other than just trying to pull a fast one on overly attached customers that live and breath gw2 through their wallets

Logged in primarily to say that the OP nailed it. This was EXACTLY my thinking: If you’re going to give new players the “Free Bonus” of the original game, then what sort of equally valued “Free Bonus” can existing players expect? a character slot could’ve made this whole wave of frustration disappear.

You really shot yourself in the foot on this one ANet.

I knew I’d find a bag full of complains on the forums, and I wasn’t disappointed.

I was actually happy with the 45€ price tag because it means (or it should mean) considerable amounts of new content.
I’m amazed with the people here complaining there’s not enough content to justify the price, have you guys actually seen it yet?

I think above all the people here aren’t used to shell out money for this game when they play for free, got loads of free new content since release and even the gem shop items can be bought with gold.

Does it suck for people who recently bought the game that the core version comes as standard for free? Yeah, but if it’s a stand alone disc that means you can create a new account for inventory mules, that’s what I’ll be doing if it’s the case since my 8 chars and fully upgraded personal guild bank is fulled to the brim.

As for maps I’m not expecting as many as on release, but surely there won’t be just 1 new one and the ones that come are promised to be content rich. And don’t forget voice acting and hopefully proper in world cut scenes, not the “mexican-stand-off” style.

In short, this is a company that has given A LOT of free stuff, so if they’re charging 45€ I have high hopes for a lot of content, my advise to anyone complaining: Wait and see whats what.

Thatkitten Rat.1236:

Plus if people complain enough maybe Anet will realise they’ve made a horrible mistake like they did with the Flamekissed armour.

The Flamekissed armor was proof, if there ever was a need, that players don’t know what they want.
People have always asked for the option of having cultural armor in other races, and when ANet starts doing it, they go bananas about it.
If people were any clever and kept quiet, that could have meant by now I could be rocking Norn T3 cultural heavy armor on my Sylvari Warrior, but nope. That’s group mentality for you, someone complained, others followed without thinking and just ruined the opportunity. Pretty much what’s happening on this thread as I’ve read some unsubstantiated complains over wild speculation being tossed as fact.

Yes, they don’t accept EU cards if you try to buy in $…. You need a US one and then you have to use a fake address as shipping details too which might complicate everything if you add it to an existing EU account…

EU countries usually have higher taxes , amng other things because we usually have real health care and social security systems, and they must be paid.

And so prices are usually a bit higher around here, and you often see the same value in € and US$, the extra cost compensates for extra taxes.

Breaking Bad.6241:

I know, I want to believe the core game is free but at the back of my mind it’s "What if they included the core game for “free” just to increase the price? What if the xpac actually costs 40 and I have to pay 10 more to subsidize the new players’ bundle?"

ANet said the core game is a free addition. Now we can discuss if ANet is lying or not, but at present what we’ve been told is that 50 is the cost of the expansion.

BuddhaKeks.4857:

Goods are only worth as much as people are willing to pay for them. So if enough people pay the 50$ than the game is worth 50$. If you don’t think it’s worth it to you, you don’t pay for it.
However Anet needs to sell, so if enough people show that they are not willing to pay the price, Anets only option would be to lower the price. Most likely disguised as a special offer so they can go back to the higher price after the offer ends.

I think the term “high-low” sales tactic is what they are doing. Mark it up as high as possible so when the declare a sale it makes it more appealing. Cuz you just saved that much more

Hello , i make this thread for ask something seems to me legit :

Instead of buy the Pre-Purchase , you pay for core game too, ok for people who are new and havn’t ever the main game but isn’t fair for long time player .

• It would be legit for them to pay a lower Pre-Purchase price without the core game include.

Or

• For the price of 45.99€ let long time player link HoT to their main account and pay justifiably for a core game that add a new account for them .

So for 45.99€ + a Character Slot for those who need ( 800gems/10€ or ~140G atm )

It would be legit to care about the long time player and to let them chose to pay or not for the core game .

Quiznos.4296:

Core game for new players.
~2400 gems for vets. (Whatever 3 characters slots is)
I could go for that.

As it stands now though, also a bit strange, the core game is no longer for sale… So we can’t even compare price points.

Why do vets have to pay twice?

The the thing your not paying twice your just getting something free. If the base game was not there would this still be an issue? Just ask your self that.

You need to understand, that shipping of boxed versions from USA to EU is expensive. Except, that most of the CD’s are not printed in the US anyway and there is no boxed version anymore. So I hope that answers your question.

I’d be totally fine with the 50 Euro IF there was an additional character slot and IF there was a boxed version. I really can’t understand why digital only copies are as expensive as boxed versions of games. Totally makes sense to me (not).

Dean Calaway.9718:

Does it suck for people who recently bought the game that the core version comes as standard for free? Yeah, but if it’s a stand alone disc that means you can create a new account for inventory mules, that’s what I’ll be doing if it’s the case since my 8 chars and fully upgraded personal guild bank is fulled to the brim.

Except that’s not what we’re getting. If I got a third account from the purchase, I’d be fine.

As it sits, I just feel like there needs to be one more desirable feature, such as a character slot (seriously ANet, how do you up the profession count and not make that a basic feature….) and I’d have absolutely no complaints. Or a $10 discounted version that’s just an “upgrade” for existing accounts.

I’m not going to fuss because I know I’m going to buy it anyway, but I will say I feel like they handled this badly. I know the fact this deal kind of sucks is going to be old news sooner than later. It’s just that they could have made this more palatable with very minor changes.

They won’t change it this time but maybe in the future.