Holy crap Anet..[Fight Spoilers ahead]
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Posted by: ArtemusHunter.9521
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Posted by: ArtemusHunter.9521
Going to write this with the intent of not spoiling it for those that haven’t done it yet.
What the heck is with that big fight in Hearts and Minds? I’ve been trying to do it for probably the past 30 minutes and the closest I got the boss down to was the second flying phase – where he knocks me out of the sky and basically kills me. I mean, maybe I can dodge the rocks being thrown at me, which I’ll give it a shot..
Except the PC ends up saying either take to the sky or shield yourself.
Okay then, simple right? Just stand within Braham’s shield for the second aerial to avoid the damage right? That sound like its an option right?
Except its not and you should feel bad, just git gud and dodge. Am I right? Does this sound about right? Feels like it.
But if that’s not happening, then this is:
http://i.imgur.com/NQrOgZ1.jpg
Basically, Braham can float and the rift is inaccessible. That happened after I got him the boss down to as far as I’ve been able to. Then there’s that long kitten attack the boss does while your using the rift that, if you don’t time properly, makes the rift impossible to access. That I actually don’t mind so much. It’s tolerable once you basically trick the boss into firing it off the rift.
And here’s the worst part of it all, and I love this too. You guys have made this fight tough. It’s actually a challenge. I went in to it and gave it my best shot, but now two pieces of my armor is broken, and there’s not an anvil in sight! Why would you make a tough fight, that some people are obviously going to have a challenge with, but not include the anvil so they can keep at it? 5 more failures and I literally will have no stat’s minus my trinkets and weapons. Which means starting the entire instance over because of the need to leave it to repair.
Awesome design there.
Very forgetful on repair anvil it seems.
Otherwise, this has been an awesome fight. The challenge is very welcomed, but holy crap is some of this kitten annoying.. I mean, Braham’s shield should block the damage. That should be allowed.. The option should be if you’re able to get to him, do so or else you need to fly. Let’s see if I can do this before I have to leave the instance..
Edit: Forgot to add that it’s really awesome that Destiny’s Edge 2.0 doesn’t feel the need to res you any more. Minus Canach and Kasmear – once each – a couple missions ago and Caithe a second ago doing so, I’ve yet to see them do so in HoT. That’s awesome.
Spoiler box there so those that have issue with learning the fight before hand can feel pain first. The fight’s easy to understand basically, but some pretty dumb stuff is getting in my way.
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Why do so many people forget to use spoiler tags in their titles?
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Posted by: ArtemusHunter.9521
Why do so many people forget to use spoiler tags in their titles?
Did I actually spoil anything? Did the first line not say I was going to try and not spoil it? Did I use any names?
No?
Okay then.
People don’t always want to know about fights before they fight them. I don’t want to know about fights before I fight them. A title Holy Crap Anet tells no one anything about what’s in the thread. Yes there are spoilers in your post.
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People don’t always want to know about fights before they fight them. I don’t want to know about fights before I fight them. A title Holy Crap Anet tells no one anything about what’s in the thread. Yes there are spoilers in your post.
If one doesn’t want to know the fight, one can read the second line of my post, use their brain to determine that there are probably fight spoilers, and avoid the issue entirely.
But I guess you’re right. I’ll add a spoiler tag.
‘Did I use any names?’ Yes… you did, Braham, Kasmeer, Canach and Caithe.
Also, if you’re having any trouble with the final mission – just do it with some friends or advertise on lfg, I don’t know anyone who’s soloed it.
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Posted by: imbalancedhero.3968
Although I managed to solo this mission on my guardian, I must admit that I died a few stupid deaths during this part.
First try:
“Shield yourselves or take to the sky”
Oh what luck. I’m a guardian and I just happened to bring a shield with me.
Press 5
Does nothing
Dies.
Second try
“Shield yourselves or take to the skies”
Oh maybe I should jump off this platform and try to find an updraft
Tries to jump
Hits invisible wall
Dies.
Yay!!
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Posted by: ArtemusHunter.9521
‘Did I use any names?’ Yes… you did, Braham, Kasmeer, Canach and Caithe.
Also, if you’re having any trouble with the final mission – just do it with some friends or advertise on lfg, I don’t know anyone who’s soloed it.
I did get 75% roughly into it, I figured it would be soloable considering the game says nothing of it needing another person to a full party. Plus, it’s technically personal story. Anet went so far as to make Arah story soloable, so why should this be any different in turn?
As for the names, it could of been worse. Did I spoil the story content behind the fight? No.
kitten this, this isn’t the thing worth arguing or complaining about anyways!
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Posted by: ArtemusHunter.9521
Although I managed to solo this mission on my guardian, I must admit that I died a few stupid deaths during this part.
First try:
“Shield yourselves or take to the sky”
Oh what luck. I’m a guardian and I just happened to bring a shield with me.
Press 5
Does nothing
Dies.Second try
“Shield yourselves or take to the skies”
Oh maybe I should jump off this platform and try to find an updraft
Tries to jump
Hits invisible wall
Dies.Yay!!
My 5th try was the trying and block via the Guardian Braham.
You’d thing something like that would work.
Wait, people struggle on this? I completed this solo first try no problem and didn’t go into downstate once :o
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Wait, people struggle on this? I completed this solo first try no problem and didn’t go into downstate once :o
I’m maining a Necro.
Idk if that helps understanding or not.
First try, managed to dodge first rock at the 75% phase, but the second one got me and downed me.
Oh which not a single NPC turned to help..
Dear OP; I felt the same. Started this fight about 5-6 times, rather annoying. Finding out what to do is rather fast, but the 3rd flying phase is annoying. He hits you with a rock far too often, imo if you just fly around him this shouldn’t happen. The annoying thin is that if he hits you you are mostly instant dead.
The shielding or whatever was my other guess, too. Go to Braham and the others – yeah they are protected. But not you, wtf?
Also the encounter bugs out sometimes (rift in the air), and you have to die again which is not easy, since the NPCs try to heal you.
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Wait, people struggle on this? I completed this solo first try no problem and didn’t go into downstate once :o
I did that too but lets not be kittens and pretend this fight was easy, it required cunning and speed, and it is understandable that people are struggling as we all are different. The difficulty is spot on though, either ppl should adapt or bring friends.
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Dear OP; I felt the same. Started this fight about 5-6 times, rather annoying. Finding out what to do is rather fast, but the 3rd flying phase is annoying. He hits you with a rock far too often, imo if you just fly around him this shouldn’t happen. The annoying thin is that if he hits you you are mostly instant dead.
The shielding or whatever was my other guess, too. Go to Braham and the others – yeah they are protected. But not you, wtf?
Also the encounter bugs out sometimes, and you have to die again which is not easy, since the NPCs try to heal you.
Caithe
tried once to heal me. Once. Out of like 6 or 7 fights.
I just wish there was an anvil.. I had to leave to repair. :/
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Wait, people struggle on this? I completed this solo first try no problem and didn’t go into downstate once :o
I did that too but lets not be kittens and pretend this fight was easy, it required cunning and speed, and it is understandable that people are struggling as we all are different. The difficulty is spot on though, either ppl should adapt or bring friends.
I do enjoy the difficulty, but its more the things missing or broken that’s annoying.
Like my armor..
Wait, people struggle on this? I completed this solo first try no problem and didn’t go into downstate once :o
I’m maining a Necro.
Idk if that helps understanding or not.First try, managed to dodge first rock at the 75% phase, but the second one got me and downed me.
Oh which not a single NPC turned to help..
I also main Necro
I remember the actual fighting to be face roll, I guess the flying around while getting rocks thrown at you was annoying though but they never managed to kill me.
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Wait, people struggle on this? I completed this solo first try no problem and didn’t go into downstate once :o
I’m maining a Necro.
Idk if that helps understanding or not.First try, managed to dodge first rock at the 75% phase, but the second one got me and downed me.
Oh which not a single NPC turned to help..I also main Necro
Then Idk, I’ve been struggling with it solo. Going to try a party now though..
I did it with a Necro. The main issue is not the difficulty, the fighting phases are very easy and I had no issues. It’s the rather clunky flying phase – which is cool btw – with almost unavoidable throwing rocks. I have to fly from updraft to updraft between so how am I supposed to caper.
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I remember the actual fighting to be face roll, I guess the flying around while getting rocks thrown at you was annoying though but they never managed to kill me.
The rocks is not what kills you.
The falling into the 'massive attack' is.
To balance this out, I found the fight easy and engaging. Easy in the sense that I didn’t have any trouble soloing it first time, but engaging because I actually had to think and act fast to win. Really great fight, spot on challenge IMO.
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To balance this out, I found the fight easy and engaging. Easy in the sense that I didn’t have any trouble soloing it first time, but engaging because I actually had to think and act fast to win. Really great fight, spot on challenge IMO.
I agree too, just some things were really annoying.
Main issue is the lack of repair anvil for learning the fight.
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Posted by: Darknicrofia.2604
soloed it on my Rev, back when the Glint heal was 4 secs long, the heal itself could pretty tank you through nearly the entire enrage/rock phase without even gliding.
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soloed it on my Rev, back when the Glint heal was 4 secs long, the heal itself could pretty tank you through nearly the entire enrage/rock phase without even gliding.
That’s insane..
I just got the fight done, had to party up. Kind of sucks because I didn’t get to, you know, do the deed at the end myself for the story. At least its done.
Dont see any problem with the fight , I soloed it yesterday with my Condi Reaper . Had no problems at all , did it on 2nd try after I understood how to fly when the aoe comes.
I only think that mechanic was to easy, they could make him harder when 25% is left. Say what you want but we were fighting a DRAGON.
Whoever says “Dont see any problem” is not the one fights that battle more than twice (for achievement) or in extreme luck. The normal mode (solo or less than five members) has one game-breaking BUG: as shown in the original post (OP), the rift is spawn IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AIR. I tried to reach it but no, you cannot. Die and restart the battle.
Now, for the Extreme mode:
The fight with Eir is stupidly bugged or pumped to the extreme. First, you cannot break her defiance bar. Five people with CC every 3 seconds cannot move it below 80%. Good luck! Because of that, Eir has INCREDIBLE HP which takes five DPS dealers 25 minutes of attacking continuously to kill. Why do I know? Thanks to god Eir has another bug which prevents her from moving so my group can dps her for...25 minutes (i.e. her dog disappears). Second, her burning attach stacks 15 burning per hit. Good luck again! The burning is fine by me for the difficulty but the stupid breakbar breaks the fight. The fight with Canach is bugged. Normally you have to take shelter inside Canach shield to reflect grenade back and damage the Blighted Canach. Guess what? Reflected grenade DOES NO DAMAGE. Normal attack deals pathetic 40-50 damage to him. Good luck even more. I cannot imagine the fight with the pale tree :/
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Posted by: ArtemusHunter.9521
Whoever says “Dont see any problem” is not the one fights that battle more than twice (for achievement) or in extreme luck. The normal mode (solo or less than five members) has one game-breaking BUG: as shown in the original post (OP), the rift is spawn IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AIR. I tried to reach it but no, you cannot. Die and restart the battle.
Now, for the Extreme mode:
The fight with Eir is stupidly bugged or pumped to the extreme. First, you cannot break her defiance bar. Five people with CC every 3 seconds cannot move it below 80%. Good luck! Because of that, Eir has INCREDIBLE HP which takes five DPS dealers 25 minutes of attacking continuously to kill. Why do I know? Thanks to god Eir has another bug which prevents her from moving so my group can dps her for...25 minutes (i.e. her dog disappears). Second, her burning attach stacks 15 burning per hit. Good luck again! The burning is fine by me for the difficulty but the stupid breakbar breaks the fight. The fight with Canach is bugged. Normally you have to take shelter inside Canach shield to reflect grenade back and damage the Blighted Canach. Guess what? Reflected grenade DOES NO DAMAGE. Normal attack deals pathetic 40-50 damage to him. Good luck even more. I cannot imagine the fight with the pale tree :/
The Eir part I had no trouble with. I was able to kill her a lot less than 25 mins solo. Chill is a CC that drains the bar constantly like a damage over time rather than like cripple or stuns or interrupts.that just chunks away at it. Reaper’s 5 skill in both Shroud and GS5 can apply good chills, and you can further that with the trait that makes blind chill. Essentially Chill can drain her bar and make it so you can kill her. First time fighting her took me a two tries – first time I died because of focusing Garm too late, second time I applied enough chill to take her down. Garm came back to life in the second time probably 2 or 3 times. Chill is a hell of a CC. Gonna try again just to make sure what I’m saying is sound too.
edit: I checked, got her to around 25% and was able to fully break her bar with chill - and not specced for chill application - solo. Chill; its a hell of a CC!
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Posted by: CureForLiving.5360
Although I managed to solo this mission on my guardian, I must admit that I died a few stupid deaths during this part.
First try:
“Shield yourselves or take to the sky”
Oh what luck. I’m a guardian and I just happened to bring a shield with me.
Press 5
Does nothing
Dies.Second try
“Shield yourselves or take to the skies”
Oh maybe I should jump off this platform and try to find an updraft
Tries to jump
Hits invisible wall
Dies.Yay!!
Or look around and see the updrafts on the platform itself.
Wait, people struggle on this? I completed this solo first try no problem and didn’t go into downstate once :o
I’m maining a Necro.
Idk if that helps understanding or not.First try, managed to dodge first rock at the 75% phase, but the second one got me and downed me.
Oh which not a single NPC turned to help..
I main a Reaper, did it myself. Did die a few times, but I blame lag :P
Dear OP; I felt the same. Started this fight about 5-6 times, rather annoying. Finding out what to do is rather fast, but the 3rd flying phase is annoying. He hits you with a rock far too often, imo if you just fly around him this shouldn’t happen. The annoying thin is that if he hits you you are mostly instant dead.
Depends from how high you fall.
Wouldn’t stealth gliding help?
Wait, people struggle on this? I completed this solo first try no problem and didn’t go into downstate once :o
I did that too but lets not be kittens and pretend this fight was easy, it required cunning and speed, and it is understandable that people are struggling as we all are different. The difficulty is spot on though, either ppl should adapt or bring friends.
My only problem is that it’s a multi-phased fight, so when you go to a new phase and you need to learn new tactics and die… well I hate repeating phases. But yes was a fun fight… even if Mordy looked kinda silly.
I remember the actual fighting to be face roll, I guess the flying around while getting rocks thrown at you was annoying though but they never managed to kill me.
I got hit once or twice, but it I was pretty close to the ground, so I got a chance to get back in the air quickly enough.
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