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Posted by: Malice.8439

Malice.8439

I made a thread on reddit, but I thought I’d make a thread here at the official forums as well.

Basically, I’m wondering if the cost in crafting ascended gear, getting the optimal runes, sigils and consumables is even amongst the various professions, and the various roles. As a chrono main, I’m looking at crafting a full set of ascended zerkers light armour + commander pants (more than one chrono), an additional set of Minstrels for tanking, two sets of Leadership runes, and the Superior Sigil of Concentration.

My elementalist inherited an ascended zerker staff and trinkets. I spent 5 minutes and 10’ish gold to buy her a full set of exotic zerker armour, and then crafter some scholar runes. She’s done. That’s it.

I am also aware that I don’t have the full picture here, which makes me curious as to how much time and effort the various professions and various roles put into gearing their toons. Perhaps the chronomancer is an extreme outlier in the amount of effort it requires, or perhaps it balances itself out amongst the classes? For all I know, this elementalist will require super expensive food which will make it more expensive in the long run.

I’d like to learn more.

Here’s the reddit thread, if you’re interested:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/64xalq/so_uh_lets_talk_about_the_superior_sigil_of/

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

You’re conflating three different things.

  • The cost/effort to create a mixed set of exotic + ascended for the meta
  • The cost/effort to create a fully ascended set for the meta.
  • The cost/effort difference for a viable set for a profession.

Every profession has a power and a condi build option that will work well for nearly all situations. With power, you can go full zerker and use scholar (or even strength) runes — that’s cheap because it’s been around a long time and the mats are common. For condi, the optimal is Viper’s (turns out to be a bad deal in exotics and more sensible for ascended) or there are decent budget variations that are cheaper.

Minstrel + Leadership is a specific sort of build that isn’t needed for most people. Many experienced mesmers recommend that you start with zerker’s and learn the rotations first and then decide if you really want to invest in the variations, which include Minstrel+Leadership, Commander+Leadership, and even Exotics+Platinum Doubloons.

With regard to food, there is no situation in which you need to spend enough on food that those costs are competitive with gearing up — there are always budget variations.

To put it more simply,

  • Always start with a budget build.
  • Only invest in a specific meta build when you really need it (which will be never, for most people).

Or even more simply, “if you have to ask how much it costs to outfit your toon, choose a different build.”

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Posted by: Cyninja.2954

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Or even more simply, “if you have to ask how much it costs to outfit your toon, choose a different build.”

So much this!

The entire breakdown was good but this is what it boils down to. There is nothing worse than spending potentially hundreds of gold on a “perfect” set only to realise you can’t stand the gameplay (or worse, you are not good enough at fullfilling that role).

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Posted by: vesica tempestas.1563

vesica tempestas.1563

the question you need to ask yourself OP is would you get satisfaction and pleasure from whatever build you are aiming for. In good old fashioned mmorpg terms, setting your own goals is a big part of the rpg journey, and if the gut feeling is yes i want set x, then go for it – even if 6 months down the line you realise theres something else thats even better. Its the pleasure and journey that counts, not picking the perfect solution without mistake!


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but would also result in a product that might not satisfy anyone”- Roman Pichler, Strategize