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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

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Recently, I have many in my guild that began decorating the guild hall and obviously hitting that 2k limit isn’t all that difficult. I would like to request for a increase of the limit to 5k given the fact that 2k is just too little to do detailed decorations comprising of small objects and to cover the hall of such size.

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Posted by: Eshaya.5039

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Oh.. 2k? You mean you can only place 2000 items in a guildhall map that big?

Wow I didn’t know.. that’s very little considering some guilds reach 500 members isn’t it?

Anet I don’t see a reason why there should be such a low ceiling capped.

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Posted by: lagrangewei.8516

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i agree, also it should show in the guild hall UI how many object is place…

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

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They raised it to 2k last year from a lower cap, but they said at the time it was unlikely to raise again anytime soon as it is a problem from a tech point of view. I also vaguely remember saying it would potentially impact the minimum specs of the game.

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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

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HOT release with those blings blings already impact the minimum specs of the game. Furthermore, they already have an aoe decoration limit to prevent excessive number of decos in one spot. Anet need to consider a realistic global cap along with the aoe decoration limit that can go along the size of a guild hall.

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Posted by: Jackson.5681

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I agree that hitting 2000 decorations is easy for large guilds, It may seem that 2000 is a lot, but with guild hall like Lost Precipice, is way too small. Players spent thousands of golds scribing and decorating without hesitation, not forgetting generous donations from guildmates. Since there is no limit per decoration in the Storage UI, I don’t see why we can’t place them all. It is pointless if we continue to scribe decorations out and unable to place them due to limit.

If the limitation is cause by technical issues, I think it would be good if there’s an option like “Effect LoD” settings at least for PCs that can’t load all at once.

I’ve always wanted to express more creativity (I believe for other guild decorators would too) in the guild hall, but couldn’t due to the decoration limits.

Increment of decoration limits is greatly appreciated.

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Posted by: Ameepa.6793

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Cap should really be raised again. It can’t be just a spec thing, because for example new Season 3 maps are much heavier than 2000 decoration capped hall.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

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Its def a performance and tech issue as seen by Gailes previous quote. Given the advice to people about how to cope on low spec PCs there is clearly limits on the cap.

It doesnt mean they wont ever up the cap, but it is clearly a difficult obstacle to overcome.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Guild-Hall-Decoration-Increase/first

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Posted by: show.5807

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Agree. 2k limit is just too little. Please Raise the cap limit…

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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

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Its def a performance and tech issue as seen by Gailes previous quote. Given the advice to people about how to cope on low spec PCs there is clearly limits on the cap.

It doesnt mean they wont ever up the cap, but it is clearly a difficult obstacle to overcome.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Guild-Hall-Decoration-Increase/first

That’s the point of aoe limit and honestly speaking, if it really start to lag bad, just leave that to the guild discretion and responsibility to balance it out.

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Posted by: FrizzFreston.5290

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It will get a higher cap when ArenaNet thinks it’s possible and within spec parameters they are happy with for the whole customer base.

That’s just the way it is. No matter how much you argue that it should be one thing or the other. I think pretty much everyone wants a higher cap.

Just saying, “just ignore those minimum spec people!” isn’t very compelling at all.

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It will get a higher cap when ArenaNet thinks it’s possible and within spec parameters they are happy with for the whole customer base.

That’s just the way it is. No matter how much you argue that it should be one thing or the other. I think pretty much everyone wants a higher cap.

Just saying, “just ignore those minimum spec people!” isn’t very compelling at all.

FYI, you are the only one saying Just saying, “just ignore those minimum spec people!” isn’t very compelling at all. and no one else is.

As mentioned , the guild hall is only available to members of the guild and it is fair enough to just leave the lag management to the discretion of the guild, there is no reason for anet to play the parenting role for instance which is not available to general public.

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Posted by: FrizzFreston.5290

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It will get a higher cap when ArenaNet thinks it’s possible and within spec parameters they are happy with for the whole customer base.

That’s just the way it is. No matter how much you argue that it should be one thing or the other. I think pretty much everyone wants a higher cap.

Just saying, “just ignore those minimum spec people!” isn’t very compelling at all.

FYI, you are the only one saying Just saying, “just ignore those minimum spec people!” isn’t very compelling at all. and no one else is.

As mentioned , the guild hall is only available to members of the guild and it is fair enough to just leave the lag management to the discretion of the guild, there is no reason for anet to play the parenting role for instance which is not available to general public.

True enough. It was more meant to illustrate that they don’t want to increase the cap as they can’t just up the minimum specs for one feature. That ArenaNet is responsible for the experience and performance of the game, and never will be able to say, oh lets leave that in the hands of players. They arent “parenting”, they are the owners of the game. Even owners of all the decorated guildhalls.

It’s very shortsighted to say that it is fair to leave lag management in the hands of guild leaders because I highly doubt that its just lag. Theres storage involved. Server stability and probably some things i dont know about. I really doubt that guild leaders are in any way capable across the board to manage a thing that requires a great deal of technological insight.

Its like asking for driving the roads at a higher speedlimit. Sounds great… until it goes horribly wrong.

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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

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It will get a higher cap when ArenaNet thinks it’s possible and within spec parameters they are happy with for the whole customer base.

That’s just the way it is. No matter how much you argue that it should be one thing or the other. I think pretty much everyone wants a higher cap.

Just saying, “just ignore those minimum spec people!” isn’t very compelling at all.

FYI, you are the only one saying Just saying, “just ignore those minimum spec people!” isn’t very compelling at all. and no one else is.

As mentioned , the guild hall is only available to members of the guild and it is fair enough to just leave the lag management to the discretion of the guild, there is no reason for anet to play the parenting role for instance which is not available to general public.

True enough. It was more meant to illustrate that they don’t want to increase the cap as they can’t just up the minimum specs for one feature. That ArenaNet is responsible for the experience and performance of the game, and never will be able to say, oh lets leave that in the hands of players. They arent “parenting”, they are the owners of the game. Even owners of all the decorated guildhalls.

It’s very shortsighted to say that it is fair to leave lag management in the hands of guild leaders because I highly doubt that its just lag. Theres storage involved. Server stability and probably some things i dont know about. I really doubt that guild leaders are in any way capable across the board to manage a thing that requires a great deal of technological insight.

Its like asking for driving the roads at a higher speedlimit. Sounds great… until it goes horribly wrong.

Assumption is pointless, totally pointless. What mentioned is more objects = more fps loss, that is all. It isn’t rocket science thus any leaders and officers can and is capable of reducing objects to reduce fps loss. It is rather insulting to even consider the need to be IT savvy to do something as simple as that.

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Posted by: FrizzFreston.5290

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Assumption is pointless, totally pointless. What mentioned is more objects = more fps loss, that is all. It isn’t rocket science thus any leaders and officers can and is capable of reducing objects to reduce fps loss. It is rather insulting to even consider the need to be IT savvy to do something as simple as that.

Erm, I guess good luck with your thread then. Since it’s based on assumption.

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Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

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It will get a higher cap when ArenaNet thinks it’s possible and within spec parameters they are happy with for the whole customer base.

That’s just the way it is. No matter how much you argue that it should be one thing or the other. I think pretty much everyone wants a higher cap.

Just saying, “just ignore those minimum spec people!” isn’t very compelling at all.

I disagree.

Guild halls are private spaces, and players choose which guilds to join and thus which halls to enter.

In my mind, having a hall that causes some players in a guild to be a bit laggy would be a guild issue rather than a total player base issue, assuming the primary consideration is end user performance rather than something on the back end like server performance.

Allowing guilds comprised of people not playing on potato machines to actually use the power of that rig is a no brainer as far as I’m concerned, the same way that graphics options are a no brainer.

Players have the option to choose whether or not to enter and use halls with higher performance costs the same way players have a choice whether to use expecive post processing or anti aliasing effects.

If you can’t efficiently walk around your guild hall because of the decorations, I feel like that’s between you and the guild. If the guild cares about your concerns then they should be designing decorations to accommodate that. However, if you’re in a guild where people are running recommended or higher spec rigs and its not an issue for the server I don’t see why a higher cap isn’t available.

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Posted by: SkyShroud.2865

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Finally, someone that understand the logic.

Anet, please leave it to the guild discretion and simply increase the limit. Afterall, it is designed for guild, isn’t it?

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Posted by: FrizzFreston.5290

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I didnt misunderstand the logic nor disagreed it couldnt be a thing. I just provided reasons why Arenanet might not want to do so.

You can disagree with those reasons I suppose or assume its “just a simple increase in the limit”. But I think ArenaNet would have raised the cap if it really is that simple in the first place or agreed with the reasoning.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

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And if it does affect minimum game specs like has been suggested by them in the past, then they legally have to advertise the revised minimum specs on the site/game box. They absolutely would not be able to say it was down to in game discretion.