Just pointing out: Ventari has no heal6

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

Knighthonor.4061

I know Ventari is the new major support legend. But have people notice he has no traditional #6 heal at the sacrifice for major team support.

I see major complaints already regarding Centaur legend balance,

but that’s a big sacrifice IMO. So I still see balanced.

What’s your thoughts on this?

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Posted by: Sylent.3165

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I personally got bored watching the live stream after the 5th staff skill so unsure what is in the typical heal slot.

But considering the reveant has no weapon slot I could only imagine those using staff in ventari legend to be using a lot of healing power. Combined with the auto attack chain and the amount of orbs dropped (unless your in a massive zerg) it will basically be a healing skill on a couple second cooldown.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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It heals AOE 350+ every 3 seconds and can heal for about 1k every 2 seconds with the movement skill. They’re not really lacking in the healing department (they also have that second burst heal utility). More than anything it just has a lot of upkeep, which will lead to a lot of dead support ventari who aren’t ready to work for it.

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Posted by: Solori.6025

Solori.6025

It heals AOE 350+ every 3 seconds and can heal for about 1k every 2 seconds with the movement skill. They’re not really lacking in the healing department (they also have that second burst heal utility). More than anything it just has a lot of upkeep, which will lead to a lot of dead support ventari who aren’t ready to work for it.

I’m kinda wondering how this will work in actual play.
So far, it looks to me that CC and dps pressure is still going to be an issue for the rev.


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Posted by: Mattmatt.4962

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1K healing on 2sec cd is no heal ???

Its a bit weaker than traditionnal heal, but beeing AOE, its supper strong (and let’s not forget you get another one with your 2nd legend)

And with such a low cd, runes that trigger on heall are kinda strong: dwayna for instance

I’m way more concerned about all the crappy trait the spec get. The Ele community is complaining about aquatic benevolence beeing minor, and they give it to rev with half the major beeing of the same stupid kind. Hopefuly there is 3strong trait and there each in a different tier (if it has been the ele, they all would have been GM XD ), the issue with only one good choice in every tier is that there is no choice ^^’

Tempest seems made careful not to make ele better in any way, since that would be bad

It does the job well :-)

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ronpierce.2760

1K healing on 2sec cd is no heal ???

Its a bit weaker than traditionnal heal, but beeing AOE, its supper strong (and let’s not forget you get another one with your 2nd legend)

And with such a low cd, runes that trigger on heall are kinda strong: dwayna for instance

I’m way more concerned about all the crappy trait the spec get. The Ele community is complaining about aquatic benevolence beeing minor, and they give it to rev with half the major beeing of the same stupid kind. Hopefuly there is 3strong trait and there each in a different tier (if it has been the ele, they all would have been GM XD ), the issue with only one good choice in every tier is that there is no choice ^^’

I was more frustrated with the regen being only 2 seconds and 240 radius when warrior banners are 3 sec of regen every 3 sec and match the 900 radius. I get its a BIT easier to move around but it also can’t be doubled up on. The pulse of the tablet’s heal is 900, wish the regen shared that and the used abilities went from 240 radius to 360. That would make it feel a little less cumbersome.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

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1K healing on 2sec cd is no heal ???

You forgot : 1k healing every 2sec, yes but with max healing power! since someone pointed that a 1200 healing power was needed for the trait to have the strenght shown.
I feel it a bit frightening but that’s my point of view.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: Malchior.1928

Malchior.1928

Full nomad revs with boon support are gonna be OP (in the balanced kind of way)

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Posted by: Mattmatt.4962

Mattmatt.4962

1K healing on 2sec cd is no heal ???

You forgot : 1k healing every 2sec, yes but with max healing power! since someone pointed that a 1200 healing power was needed for the trait to have the strenght shown.
I feel it a bit frightening but that’s my point of view.

I havent watch the stream, did the rev shown was in something like full cleric ?
The trait increasing outgoing heal do not affect what show the tooltip so it doesnt matter the trait.

Tempest seems made careful not to make ele better in any way, since that would be bad

It does the job well :-)

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

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Also people keep in mind, the new Poison mechanics will be a major counter to Rev healers..

Poison now stacks intensity.

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Also people keep in mind, the new Poison mechanics will be a major counter to Rev healers..

Poison now stacks intensity.

The healing debuff isn’t statics 33% no matter the stacks. It’s actually a need to poison, as multiple applications won’t extend the uptime as much anymore, as they will just overlap. So getting poison uptime for some builds will go down.

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Posted by: nopoet.2960

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…The healing debuff isn’t statics 33% no matter the stacks. …

Has this been confirmed?

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…The healing debuff isn’t statics 33% no matter the stacks. …

Has this been confirmed?

Yes, there was a slip up of a 2 stack of poison that showed 66% healing reduction, but one of the devs clarified it was a tooltip error and the utility portion will remain steady.

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Knighthonor.4061

…The healing debuff isn’t statics 33% no matter the stacks. …

Has this been confirmed?

Yes, there was a slip up of a 2 stack of poison that showed 66% healing reduction, but one of the devs clarified it was a tooltip error and the utility portion will remain steady.

So what exactly is it stacking ?

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

ronpierce.2760

…The healing debuff isn’t statics 33% no matter the stacks. …

Has this been confirmed?

Yes, there was a slip up of a 2 stack of poison that showed 66% healing reduction, but one of the devs clarified it was a tooltip error and the utility portion will remain steady.

So what exactly is it stacking ?

Damage. Poison will be similar to burn/bleed/confusion/torment builds, especially for classes that have high poison stacking and poison damage boosts (thief/ranger)

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