Guild Wars 2

Hello,

Before the expansion hit i mainly used to do fractals and sometimes dungeons. With the launch of the expansion you basically killed both of them. Fractals are incredibly boring now because you can just brainafk spam 1 and succeed since the enemies don’t hit hard anymore. Also due to the removing of the random fractals, everyone is just rolling swamp and other short fractals all day long.
Dungeons got killed and noone wants to do them anymore. Instead of just exchanging the liquid reward to other kinds of rewards, like more tokens, materials, etc, you just destroyed them.
The 4 new open world maps pretty much got boring after playing them for a while.
Basically the only fun content left are the raids (they are super fun, though). However, they are more or less on farm now and after finishing the raid on monday there is nothing left to do for the whole week. If i remember correctly, the reason for the weekly cap on raids was, that the rewards are so “awsome”. However, right yesterday i got 3 cheap exotics (gg). If you don’t want us to get the “awsome” raid rewards multiple times a week, why can’t we at least get some materials or just anything for repeating the raid, that is at least as rewarding as spamming 1 in silverwastes?

In principle i am logging in on tuesday and don’t know what to do. This never happened before the launch of hot.

Lendruil.9061:

Hello,

Before the expansion hit i mainly used to do fractals and sometimes dungeons. With the launch of the expansion you basically killed both of them. Fractals are incredibly boring now because you can just brainafk spam 1 and succeed since the enemies don’t hit hard anymore. Also due to the removing of the random fractals, everyone is just rolling swamp and other short fractals all day long.

As a fractal focused player I’m a bit insulted. I can tell you clearly weren’t a frequenter of fractals based on your comments.

a) People rolled swamp constantly pre-HoT. That’s not new. That’s what everyone did. Path of least resistance. This isn’t new for HoT, GW2, or MMOs in general.

b) You need to do specific fractals now for achievements. You can’t just do swamp. It gets you nowhere. The people only rolling swamp or molten boss are the ones trying to do the 3-fractal dailies. You can do that, or I dunno, post your own LFG? I post random fractals all the time (legendary backpiece sends you to specific ones, plus there are still some I need to complete for the main achievements). My groups typically fill up and in the fractal within 5min. If there’s a fractal you want to do, make a group and go do it. No one is stopping you. If you don’t see a fractal you want to join, just create your own.

c) Fractals under 50 were basically made easier. If you did fractals regularly you should have certainly been at 50 already and if you are looking for actual challenge, spend your time doing the 50+ fractals. Unless you want me to believe you have 150AR, have cleared through 100, and still believe spamming 1 gets you through it. I would never believe this, btw.

d) Fractals have improved across the board with HoT. They take less time commitment, give better rewards, and now there is a nice legendary backpiece to work towards over the long term.

Sorry for wall, I just love doing fractals haha. I think it’s one area they got right with HoT.

Draknar.5748:

Lendruil.9061:

Hello,

Before the expansion hit i mainly used to do fractals and sometimes dungeons. With the launch of the expansion you basically killed both of them. Fractals are incredibly boring now because you can just brainafk spam 1 and succeed since the enemies don’t hit hard anymore. Also due to the removing of the random fractals, everyone is just rolling swamp and other short fractals all day long.

As a fractal focused player I’m a bit insulted. I can tell you clearly weren’t a frequenter of fractals based on your comments.

a) People rolled swamp constantly pre-HoT. That’s not new. That’s what everyone did. Path of least resistance. This isn’t new for HoT, GW2, or MMOs in general.

b) You need to do specific fractals now for achievements. You can’t just do swamp. It gets you nowhere. The people only rolling swamp or molten boss are the ones trying to do the 3-fractal dailies. You can do that, or I dunno, post your own LFG? I post random fractals all the time (legendary backpiece sends you to specific ones, plus there are still some I need to complete for the main achievements). My groups typically fill up and in the fractal within 5min. If there’s a fractal you want to do, make a group and go do it. No one is stopping you. If you don’t see a fractal you want to join, just create your own.

c) Fractals under 50 were basically made easier. If you did fractals regularly you should have certainly been at 50 already and if you are looking for actual challenge, spend your time doing the 50+ fractals. Unless you want me to believe you have 150AR, have cleared through 100, and still believe spamming 1 gets you through it. I would never believe this, btw.

d) Fractals have improved across the board with HoT. They take less time commitment, give better rewards, and now there is a nice legendary backpiece to work towards over the long term.

Sorry for wall, I just love doing fractals haha. I think it’s one area they got right with HoT.

I can assure you that i am a pretty experienced fractal runner. I soloed/duoed tier50 fractals pre hot, and i am on level 100 currently and have beaten every single fractal from 50 til 100.

a) Pre hot people started with swamp. This was one fractal out of four. Currently every fractal is swamp, jademaw or ascalon. Well, the lowlevel dailies make you at least do one specific fractal, but this doesn’t change much. Every day there should be new, random chosen fractals that have to be done, otherwise people just take the easiest ones.

b) I already have completed all achievements for the legendary backpiece. Some of the challenge motes were quite funny, however, they only get done one time and then you are done.

c) As i said above, i have 150 ar and i am on level 100. Maybe on level 90+ it starts to get a kittenallenging. On all other levels the enemies hit for less than they did on 50 pre hot. Just increasing their life and toughness doesn’t make them more challenging.

d) I don’t want the fractals to take less time. There should be more dailies and harder dailies. And the rewards didn’t really get improved (maybe the december patch will fix something, but somehow i cannot really believe in this).

Edit: Wth does “a – bit – challenging” get censored?

How is every fractal swamp now? If you don’t have a group already and don’t want to do swamp put yourself in the group finder for any other level which isn’t swamp. I see people wanting all different levels in there all the time, and the group I sometimes run with does various levels as well. I’m pretty sure Jademaw and Ascalon are the two I haven’t done since HoT came out. I did do swamp though because I needed something from Mossman for my Howler pre-cursor.

I’m sorry it just doesn’t make much sense to me you are having trouble doing different ones.

Draknar.5748:

d) Fractals have improved across the board with HoT. They take less time commitment, give better rewards

Wait what???? I’m just gonna leave that here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18IHVJao5j85KOp6lBTOgO8qs4VYD3Xty-jKPZo8o-Q4/pubhtml

Ya ok we get more gold reward from fractal, but ascended chest are WAY better as a reward than a couple of gold per day.

I love fractal. I’m a fan from day 1. And even if they improve some stuff in it, they screw up a lot of stuff.

- Mobs are doing a LOT less damage, making it very easy mode. Even at level 100, they do less or near the damage of level 50 used to have.

- The toughness scale at level 60+ is completely broken. Condition Damage build have a huge advantage and even with a full condi team you get a longer fight with no added difficulty. Take the smaller damage and the higher resistance for all mobs and you get some horribly boring fight. I started auto-attack at Mossman 77 and go bio. Got back and kept playing. Before HoT at level 50 I would have been dead in second.

- Unintended consequence. The champion at molten duo at 99 and 90 is completely stupid. Direct Damage is doing very small damage, while he,s immune to fire. This champion is longer to kill than the 2 Molten Bosses together.

- The rewards is bad. Ya ok you can in theory get more gold than we used to, but it’s bury behind a RNG box that you need to pay to open. It doesn’t matter that we got more gold reward now. It make the majority of people feel screwed over. It’s a bad system for that reason. And lets not talk about the unique rewards. Fractal was one of the few place when you could reliably get some ascended gear and they screw that over real good. The unique reward from level 50 to 100 is less good than the reward in 20-50.

- The fractal collection that was introduced 2 YEARS ago still have the exact same bug than 2 YEARS ago. Back then, they gave up and simply removed the collection from the game, and it’s still bugged.

Hopefully, all of this will be fixed in 1 week and fractal will be great again. But still, this seem like a butched work to me.

Draknar.5748:

Lendruil.9061:

Hello,

Before the expansion hit i mainly used to do fractals and sometimes dungeons. With the launch of the expansion you basically killed both of them. Fractals are incredibly boring now because you can just brainafk spam 1 and succeed since the enemies don’t hit hard anymore. Also due to the removing of the random fractals, everyone is just rolling swamp and other short fractals all day long.

As a fractal focused player I’m a bit insulted. I can tell you clearly weren’t a frequenter of fractals based on your comments.

a) People rolled swamp constantly pre-HoT. That’s not new. That’s what everyone did. Path of least resistance. This isn’t new for HoT, GW2, or MMOs in general.

b) You need to do specific fractals now for achievements. You can’t just do swamp. It gets you nowhere. The people only rolling swamp or molten boss are the ones trying to do the 3-fractal dailies. You can do that, or I dunno, post your own LFG? I post random fractals all the time (legendary backpiece sends you to specific ones, plus there are still some I need to complete for the main achievements). My groups typically fill up and in the fractal within 5min. If there’s a fractal you want to do, make a group and go do it. No one is stopping you. If you don’t see a fractal you want to join, just create your own.

c) Fractals under 50 were basically made easier. If you did fractals regularly you should have certainly been at 50 already and if you are looking for actual challenge, spend your time doing the 50+ fractals. Unless you want me to believe you have 150AR, have cleared through 100, and still believe spamming 1 gets you through it. I would never believe this, btw.

d) Fractals have improved across the board with HoT. They take less time commitment, give better rewards, and now there is a nice legendary backpiece to work towards over the long term.

Sorry for wall, I just love doing fractals haha. I think it’s one area they got right with HoT.

You just went off the rails. Rewards are certainly not better. If you dispute that GG.

no reward in GW2 is good, and that’s the problem. Since the middle of November (when i finished my last Specialization) I have not played more then 2-3 hours a week until yesterday when I went back into FOTM to see how that part of the game is going. Its crap, its all a bunch of crap now.

Until the rewards increase, I refuse to play anymore. I am logging in for my daily account login chest, then logging out until i see some serious patch changes in regards to the rewards.

GW2 is a pile of crap in its current state.

This is an “eye of the beholder” situation. Most of my friends, guildies, and buddies find there isn’t nearly enough time to do half the things on their list. (Some things fall off the radar, because there are too many to manage.)

This is also an example of a poster confusing “ruining” a game mode with “changing the reward”. If dungeons were truly as loved as folks state, then they would still be popular today; it’s clear that what people liked were the easy coin, not the dungeons themselves.

Further, fractals are more accessible to more people (you need less AR, less time commitment, and less experience to try them out at various levels). That makes them more rewarding for a lot of people (although, of course, for previous veterans, the current rewards are lukewarm at best, which is why ANet is changing them later this month).

The main point is: there’s a lot more stuff in the game now than ever, but it will seem like less for people who have established preferences and little interest in branching out. If all you liked was dungeons (for the reward) and fractals (for the reward+challenge), then yeah, less stuff to do. If you’re like me and like lots of different things, then, wow, it’s hard to keep track.

Lendruil.9061:

Basically the only fun content left are the raids (they are super fun, though). However, they are more or less on farm now and after finishing the raid on monday there is nothing left to do for the whole week.

Welcome to the Brave New (vertical progression) World.

Draknar.5748:

Lendruil.9061:

Hello,

Before the expansion hit i mainly used to do fractals and sometimes dungeons. With the launch of the expansion you basically killed both of them. Fractals are incredibly boring now because you can just brainafk spam 1 and succeed since the enemies don’t hit hard anymore. Also due to the removing of the random fractals, everyone is just rolling swamp and other short fractals all day long.

As a fractal focused player I’m a bit insulted. I can tell you clearly weren’t a frequenter of fractals based on your comments.

HAHAHAHA omg this saved my day.

I HAVE to reply to this thread lol, havnt read past the first two posts.. And tbh, i didn’t have to read more than the topic to know this “player” isn’t even playing the game.. Because since HoT ive been pulled in like 6 different directions on a daily basis because there’s so much crap to do that i don’t have time to do it all! Before HoT i would get into game and ty to figure out what i was gunna do… Now.. My dilemma is what the heck am i going to do first!? lol.

There’s a lot of content and things to do in this expansion! And anyone who makes a statement like the OP did in the title… Just isn’t even playing.

Hawken son of Z.1367:

I HAVE to reply to this thread lol, havnt read past the first two posts.. And tbh, i didn’t have to read more than the topic to know this “player” isn’t even playing the game.. Because since HoT ive been pulled in like 6 different directions on a daily basis because there’s so much crap to do that i don’t have time to do it all! Before HoT i would get into game and ty to figure out what i was gunna do… Now.. My dilemma is what the heck am i going to do first!? lol.

There’s a lot of content and things to do in this expansion! And anyone who makes a statement like the OP did in the title… Just isn’t even playing.

The OP is playing the game, just preferring other content. Like you, I have too many things to do, but that doesn’t mean that the OP does; they might not care about the same sorts of things.

It’s really all in the eye of the beholder.

I think there is much to do for those who are willing or find it enjoyable to do:
a) Minigames and collections. Specialization collections are wortless as anyone of them contains an arcade game from HoT, made at a special level. Boring and out of question for me personally.
b) Fractals. Same old stuff. The idea is ok though, add some new fractals and that may bring me over the winter contentwise.
c) Dungeons. Never my thing to begin with.
d) WvW. Dead.
e) PvP. Yawn. Adding a collection to this made me even want to do this less.
f) Questing in HoT. Yes, I occassionally do that to get some AP.
g) Exploration of HoT. Out of question. Never would I subject myself to the nightmare of exploring every hidden door in a map with 3 horrible layers.
h) Collect recipes. Yes, I do that, I am kind of a hamster in this one.

Maybe you ask yourself what is this guy still doing in GW2 right now at this point and why has he not left yet?
a) Star Citizen is not ready, not by a long shot.
b) lack of suitable alternatives, no interest in single player games.
b) My guild

I was really looking forward to more ascended gear from higher level fractals and not only is there less now, but it costs more to make it yourself. The meta changed and i want a new set to run raids but the changes are just so incredibly annoying that i want to sit out until they fix the rewards.

panzer.6034:

I was really looking forward to more ascended gear from higher level fractals and not only is there less now, but it costs more to make it yourself. The meta changed and i want a new set to run raids but the changes are just so incredibly annoying that i want to sit out until they fix the rewards.

You can just craft the exotic version of the insignias and change the stats on your current Ascended armor using the mystic forge instead of crafting a whole new set.

I’m a bit confused as to what game people are all flocking to that has more content? I’m just not seeing it out there and I would like to know what GW2 is being compared to these days…

sirsquishy.8531
no reward in GW2 is good, and that’s the problem. Since the middle of November (when i finished my last Specialization) I have not played more then 2-3 hours a week until yesterday when I went back into FOTM to see how that part of the game is going. Its crap, its all a bunch of crap now.
Until the rewards increase, I refuse to play anymore. I am logging in for my daily account login chest, then logging out until i see some serious patch changes in regards to the rewards.
GW2 is a pile of crap in its current state.

Settle down. What people miss the point is that fractals are still FUN. The entire point of the game. Rewards will hopefully get a bump, but playing the game for loot is the equivalent to driving to the store everyday to buy scratch tickets.