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Posted by: Arkrift.3751

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We’ve got open world content, dungeons, fractals, etc. Why not for raid? Many of times I’ve had to swim through Raid LFG posts in the menu when I’m looking for Tequatl Taxi for an example. I really think having a section for raids would be very beneficial both for people looking for raid members and players looking for other events.

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Posted by: BloodyPanda.6789

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Has anet said anything about a new LFG system? I mean since HOT release it seems like our LFG is too outdated. All that new contents in the same old lfg system is just such a mess. things like squad lfg or raid lfg will they ever come out? They definitely need a squad lfg since the new map content are mostly done in squad and plz GIVE ME A LFG SECTION WITH RAID!!!! just wondering are anet working on it or we r stuck with that we have. I just want to ask if any1 know anything about this?

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Posted by: Conner.5803

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Why would they ever update something that’s almost necessary to use to actually play the game?

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Posted by: BloodyPanda.6789

BloodyPanda.6789

I really think they should focus on whats really matter right now, like map reset, bugs, lfg system and other main stuff, but instead they give us gliding in tyria… i mean i dont really mind gilding and i think its kinda cool but i really think they need to fix things that matter instead of working on the “no fly zone” around JP that kinda crap.

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Posted by: BellatorDeus.2310

BellatorDeus.2310

Jumping from those high vistas in Tyria and then gliding is fun.

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Posted by: circuitnerd.5863

circuitnerd.5863

This has been suggested many times now and I concur. It really needs it’s own section.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

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Ya I have zero confidence in Anet for that. They are thinking of idea for the LFG wow big deal. They just freaking need to put 2 new tabs. 1 for raid and 1 for HoT maps. That’s it. Everything else is optional and we can wait a year if they want. But those 2 tab are needed ASAP and it’s cost almost nothing for them to do in term of ressources.

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Posted by: Manasa Devi.7958

Manasa Devi.7958

The open world tab is a major disaster since HoT. It was already a minor disaster prior to HoT.

If the whole taxi situation is to remain the only way to be able to get to populated maps where people are actually doing things, they should also add a “commander looking for squad members” tab. The 5 player limit is horrendous when people are rushing to get to interesting maps.

Or perhaps even something as basic as a “come join me” tab, where people don’t form parties but just present themselves so other players can click a button to join those people in their instances. Maybe even with a counter that says how many players can still join and the join button greyed out when that counter is at 0. It should only work for people in open world areas, and people should only see entries from people in the same area but a different instance, with green names signifying people in the same instance. It would be glorious.

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Posted by: iroh.2871

iroh.2871

Given ArenaNet’s complete silence on the matter, I’m hopeful that means they’re working on it. My hopes is that it’s like gliding in Tyria. They didn’t say kitten about it any time someone posted suggestions or “What if” posts. Then out of nowhere: “Hey guys… guess what…. YOU’RE GETTING GLIDING IN TYRIA!!!” Maybe this is the case for the LFG? ¯\(?)

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Posted by: Sird.4536

Sird.4536

Monday is the worst day for lfg. All the spam about reset raid LFR made me miss so many HoT meta taxis.

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Posted by: Jethro.9376

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Updating the LFG isn´t the only problem. Players should learn how to properly use it aswell.

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Posted by: ugrakarma.9416

ugrakarma.9416

its suggested thousands times. no ideia why this still ignored.

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Posted by: MokahTGS.7850

MokahTGS.7850

Updating the LFG isn´t the only problem. Players should learn how to properly use it aswell.

People using the LFG tool however is easiest way to get to content the fastest. Lowest common denominator and all that…

The Reddit post about this offered some very good suggestions, but I feel a lot of the taxi groups (which will only get worse as time goes on) wouldn’t be necessary if we just had an instance dropdown like we had in GW1.

Go to area, click on the dropdown, and choose and instance. It would be even more helpful if the instances had a running counter of current players.

Really something needs to be done as currently its a hot mess.

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Posted by: allorn.4169

allorn.4169

There is one for Living world, open world content, dungeons, etc….REALLY, REALLY need one for Raid, Please.

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Posted by: FOX.3582

FOX.3582

Not gonna happen. Raids are not for pugs. Since Anet made enough money by marketing GW2 as casual friendly at the beginning of the game we casuals can now go (…) ourselves.

What does the FOX say¿!

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

People already use the LFG tool for raids, so it makes no sense for ANet deciding to pretend otherwise.

The LFG needs an overhaul and there are already half a dozen threads with various suggestions for what to do.

(Personally, I feel they just need to keep it simple, require us to choose a category, and offer a “none of the above” option — without a default choice, people are more likely to use the existing categories and ANet can run metrics on those who use “none of above”).

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Posted by: Teennine.3901

Teennine.3901

I would like a raid section in the LFG. I’m getting tired of seeing a billion raid groups advertising in the open world LFG.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

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But wouldn’t that mean they would have to change the number of people who can join a group through the LFG tab. Currently it’s limited to 5. I know nothing about game coding, so I don’t know how easy it would be to add a tab and have it so the max number on that tab is 10.

Given the way things brake very easily when an update is shipped, it’s probably not as easy as we would all like to think.

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Posted by: Manu.6078

Manu.6078

A simple solution:
- rename Fractals of the Mists category to Fractals and Raids
- rename (merge) Difficulty Scales 51-75 subcategory to Difficulty Scales 51-100 (I bet there will not be too crowded there)
- rename Difficulty Scales 75-100 subcategory to Raids
I fear that bureaucracy will prevail. Any streamer around?

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

BrotherBelial.3094

A simple solution:
- rename Fractals of the Mists category to Fractals and Raids
- rename (merge) Difficulty Scales 51-75 subcategory to Difficulty Scales 51-100 (I bet there will not be too crowded there)
- rename Difficulty Scales 75-100 subcategory to Raids
I fear that bureaucracy will prevail. Any streamer around?

Changing code is never that easy.

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Posted by: Serious.6940

Serious.6940

Open World gets very full at times. It would be useful to split raid off from open world. It would also be useful to split HoT from Central Tyria. A click box so that you could select ‘just in your zone’, so you could check just the instances of your map, would also be useful.

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Posted by: Rikimaru.7890

Rikimaru.7890

Well who doesn’t? Actually those who don’t do raids or those who only do them when asked like me don’t. But that’s irrelevant to those who do – so here is your answer:

You have to wait until all 3 wings appear.
Yes I know they could just add the Raid LFG with just 1 sub-group but the thing was probably already coded for all 3 just like the legendary armour collection.
And recoding it 3 times rather than 1 would probably be inconvenient.

Think about it do you honestly think ANET doesn’t realise it would be very useful?
Well I mean I’m wodering meself if they have any self-awareness left at all after HoT.
But that would be beyond any level of stupidity thus far.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

BrotherBelial.3094

Didn’t ANet say way back, that “We have no plans to add raids to LFG” or did I imagine CJ saying that in a POI before HoT launched?

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Posted by: Andraus.3874

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They addressed this like a month ago. They don’t have the means to change the LFG at the moment to be 10 man capable. They don’t want to put resources into developing raid LFG when it could only do 5 man because it wouldn’t be able to function properly as really you need 10 man capability.

I tend to disagree but that is their reasoning.

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Posted by: Serious.6940

Serious.6940

People are still trying to use the LFG window for raids. Quite often there are more LFG raid adverts than anything else.

I agree that there should be 10 slot capability but it’s all what people have to work with now. anet should have been thinking about this months ago and getting it ready for HoT release.

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

Well who doesn’t? Actually those who don’t do raids or those who only do them when asked like me don’t. But that’s irrelevant to those who do – so here is your answer:

You have to wait until all 3 wings appear.
Yes I know they could just add the Raid LFG with just 1 sub-group but the thing was probably already coded for all 3 just like the legendary armour collection.
And recoding it 3 times rather than 1 would probably be inconvenient.

Think about it do you honestly think ANET doesn’t realise it would be very useful?
Well I mean I’m wodering meself if they have any self-awareness left at all after HoT.
But that would be beyond any level of stupidity thus far.

The amount of LF Raid posts cluttering up the Open world section proves you wrong.

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Posted by: thewaterguy.4796

thewaterguy.4796

Frankly its ridiculous, if you think its bad now wait until they add another raid wing…this is not a debate, arena-net NEEDS to include this functionality at some point, its annoying to non-raiders because it clutters open-world LFG and its annoying to raiders because they have more difficulty filling in the empty slots of their party…

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

They addressed this like a month ago. They don’t have the means to change the LFG at the moment to be 10 man capable. They don’t want to put resources into developing raid LFG when it could only do 5 man because it wouldn’t be able to function properly as really you need 10 man capability.

I tend to disagree but that is their reasoning.

Well I agree with their reasoning about the difficulty to transform the LFG from a 5 man party setup, to a 10man squad setup.

Where I think they make themselves looks like fools, is that nobody is asking for that immediately. Most people know that changing that much the lfg can be long and hard. We simply ask for like 2 additional tab one for HoT maps and 1 for raid, just so the Open World tab stop being so crowded that you can’t find anything.

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Posted by: Thaddeus.4891

Thaddeus.4891

They addressed this like a month ago. They don’t have the means to change the LFG at the moment to be 10 man capable. They don’t want to put resources into developing raid LFG when it could only do 5 man because it wouldn’t be able to function properly as really you need 10 man capability.

I tend to disagree but that is their reasoning.

Well I agree with their reasoning about the difficulty to transform the LFG from a 5 man party setup, to a 10man squad setup.

Where I think they make themselves looks like fools, is that nobody is asking for that immediately. Most people know that changing that much the lfg can be long and hard. We simply ask for like 2 additional tab one for HoT maps and 1 for raid, just so the Open World tab stop being so crowded that you can’t find anything.

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Posted by: AriaFiresong.7023

AriaFiresong.7023

I’ll agree that it needs a different tab at least, even if it doesn’t get 10man functionality yet. It’s difficult to find meta events when there are 29 people listing their entire resume in Open World.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

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Yeah… it is really embarrassing that in 2016 we have a single text based window with no functionality as the core means for finding a group in an MMO.

I’ve seen better LFG support in 2008 MMO’s.

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Posted by: Aenaos.8160

Aenaos.8160

Yeah… it is really embarrassing that in 2016 we have a single text based window with no functionality as the core means for finding a group in an MMO.

I’ve seen better LFG support in 2008 MMO’s.

Actually I prefer this LFG system than the traditional instance matching.
They could add some textures and fluff to it but it’s functionality is superior.
Ofc there is the issue of the absolutely misjudged anti trolling mechanisms
that cause more harm than they do good,and the fact that they did not
update the tool for the introduction of raiding in the game.
It’s ok.
It only took 3 years to get a squad UI.
So be patient.

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Posted by: Pifil.5193

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Yeah… it is really embarrassing that in 2016 we have a single text based window with no functionality as the core means for finding a group in an MMO.

I’ve seen better LFG support in 2008 MMO’s.

It’s pretty poor alright, it needs the ability to advertise a squad desperately, both for raids and to enable people to organise maps. However given ArenaNet’s glacial pace when it comes to these things I suspect it’ll never happen (or will take years and then be marketed as one of the wonders of the world when it does come).

Edit: yeah, I realise that looks angry but it’s a serious omission and really hinders our ability to organise.

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