Guild Wars 2

Despite all the naysayers, we’re a small group of older players who love everything about HoT. Even having only scratched the surface yet, the amount of “hidden” things/places is keeping the explorer in us riveted, and working along with others through the big story events to get that hard-to-acquire XP so we can spend mastery points to gain access to even more new stuff. This is going to keep us busy for months and months to come.

It’s like GW2 vanilla but with the difficulty, awesomeness, and immersiveness turned up to 11.

Note: Might have had to invent word “immersiveness”.

i actually agree with you, Im very exited about all the new things and havent even scratched the surface! It does have some issues, some balance flaws but that is to be expected, I think people sometimes forget this as been out for little over a month and not for years.It will take time . but overall, I like it alot

PS: I think you might have…. xD

Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry.

There is nothing immersive about this game. Or does staring at countless still-picture loading screens over excite your immersive meter?

The only thing you keep you busy for months and months to come is artificially inflated grind. Not fun content.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry.

And they might not, sorry.

Saying someone might eventually feel something because you feel it is a pointless exercise. I’m pretty sure I won’t feel it.

Azure Prower.8701:

There is nothing immersive about this game. Or does staring at countless still-picture loading screens over excite your immersive meter?

The only thing you keep you busy for months and months to come is artificially inflated grind. Not fun content.

There’s nothing immersive about the game to you. To me the new zones are completely immersive. I can lose myself in one of those zones for literally hours, without ever seeing a load screen, unless I decide to waypoint somewhere in the same zone.

I find the new zones very much immersive. When I’m doing that long chain in DS, the very length of the chain makes it feel immersive to me. I’m really feeling like I’m fighting an a pitched battle.

You may not feel it but immersion is very much a matter of personal taste and opinion.

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry.

And they might not, sorry.

Saying someone might eventually feel something because you feel it is a pointless exercise. I’m pretty sure I won’t feel it.

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

For each their own.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry.

And they might not, sorry.

Saying someone might eventually feel something because you feel it is a pointless exercise. I’m pretty sure I won’t feel it.

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

For each their own.

This is offensive. You’re implying that the game can’t be liked, because you don’t personally like it. But I’m not the only person who likes it. The OP clearly likes it. I have many people, not a few, but many in my guild who like it quite a bit.

So trying to play it off that no one could possibly like it except for a white knight is essentially putting your opinion above theirs.

I respect the fact that you’re not enjoying it. But that doesn’t mean that people who aren’t enjoying it are white knights, or that their opinion is worth any less.

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry.

And they might not, sorry.

Saying someone might eventually feel something because you feel it is a pointless exercise. I’m pretty sure I won’t feel it.

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

For each their own.

This is offensive. You’re implying that the game can’t be liked, because you don’t personally like it. But I’m not the only person who likes it. The OP clearly likes it. I have many people, not a few, but many in my guild who like it quite a bit.

So trying to play it off that no one could possibly like it except for a white knight is essentially putting your opinion above theirs.

I respect the fact that you’re not enjoying it. But that doesn’t mean that people who aren’t enjoying it are white knights, or that their opinion is worth any less.

Sorry, my statement was a generalization. You might have missed that.

I actually enjoy/ed various aspects of HoT. All I say is that there is not very much content in this expansion, and when you have done what is to be done, the maps feel terribly event starving and empty.

VB is the best map, you will find action all over the place at any time. But they are on rails and not dynamic at all, which makes them fairly stale after some time.
AB is OK, fair amount of events, but the map feels limited, kitten much of it is simply the central city.
TD is a riddle to me. I was heavily exploring the maps four layers and came to the conclusion, that 80% of the map is just empty space. Either ANet plans something for this map in the future or this is a giant waste of dev time and money.
DS is not a map, it is a single big event, more like a dungeon. The exploring is severely limited and in the end there is not much there in the first place, as the map is fairly small.

After that, you can raid, or grind your achievement/collections/masteries. Raids and daily grind is the answer for GW2 future? WoW.

I paid $35 for a boxed version of the expansion (well actually $70 as I bought two copies).

It was the worst content to price ratio in an MMO for years. God forbid, people actually paid $50 for three maps, a medium size instance for 150 people and three raid bosses.

One can argue that elite speccs are content too, and they are. But from my personal experience, most expansion ship with new skills and talents for existing classes and at least one new class, this is just standard MMO treatment.

Maybe I was expecting too much. Not just the stuff that all other MMOs put on the table. Now we got exactly that, just less of it. Meh.

And don’t even start, that we might get more stuff in the future. Who cares if people leave now. That argument is just a carrot on a stick and I have seen other MMOs offer more content in patches than what we got with LS2.

So what now?

There are plenty of other threads to vent on, I will focus on what I have liked.

VB is a very interesting map that seems to fit the story I am chasing there, I love gliding and now with full mastery I enjoy gliding from one edge to the other up in the canopy.

AB has the Golden City, I think this area has a lot of lore yet to be discovered and very much enjoy the feel of the city and it’s guardians. ( freekin rollers hehehe)

TD is very confusing but the moment I find a new area or even an updraft I am off again to see what I could find.

DS is fairly interesting and the end fight is pretty amazing.

Over my 3 yrs ,I have been a solo roamer mostly WvW player who runs a total of 19 characters ( 2 of everything and 3 druids).

Overall I enjoy HoT ! . good luck all.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry.

And they might not, sorry.

Saying someone might eventually feel something because you feel it is a pointless exercise. I’m pretty sure I won’t feel it.

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

For each their own.

This is offensive. You’re implying that the game can’t be liked, because you don’t personally like it. But I’m not the only person who likes it. The OP clearly likes it. I have many people, not a few, but many in my guild who like it quite a bit.

So trying to play it off that no one could possibly like it except for a white knight is essentially putting your opinion above theirs.

I respect the fact that you’re not enjoying it. But that doesn’t mean that people who aren’t enjoying it are white knights, or that their opinion is worth any less.

Sorry, my statement was a generalization. You might have missed that.

I actually enjoy/ed various aspects of HoT. All I say is that there is not very much content in this expansion, and when you have done what is to be done, the maps feel terribly event starving and empty.

VB is the best map, you will find action all over the place at any time. But they are on rails and not dynamic at all, which makes them fairly stale after some time.
AB is OK, fair amount of events, but the map feels limited, kitten much of it is simply the central city.
TD is a riddle to me. I was heavily exploring the maps four layers and came to the conclusion, that 80% of the map is just empty space. Either ANet plans something for this map in the future or this is a giant waste of dev time and money.
DS is not a map, it is a single big event, more like a dungeon. The exploring is severely limited and in the end there is not much there in the first place, as the map is fairly small.

After that, you can raid, or grind your achievement/collections/masteries. Raids and daily grind is the answer for GW2 future? WoW.

I paid $35 for a boxed version of the expansion (well actually $70 as I bought two copies).

It was the worst content to price ratio in an MMO for years. God forbid, people actually paid $50 for three maps, a medium size instance for 150 people and three raid bosses.

One can argue that elite speccs are content too, and they are. But from my personal experience, most expansion ship with new skills and talents for existing classes and at least one new class, this is just standard MMO treatment.

Maybe I was expecting too much. Not just the stuff that all other MMOs put on the table. Now we got exactly that, just less of it. Meh.

And don’t even start, that we might get more stuff in the future. Who cares if people leave now. That argument is just a carrot on a stick and I have seen other MMOs offer more content in patches than what we got with LS2.

So what now?

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

There’s nothing wrong with stating your opinion. There is something very wrong with implying that you have to be a white knight to like this game. They are very different statements.

Your later post was better than your first post because it had some context. What you wrote here is simply inflammatory, no matter whether it was a general comment or a specific one. You’re dimissing the opinions of people who like the game.

I don’t agree with quite a few of your opinions but you’re entitled to them. I resist the temptation to label people haters or black knights or anything else, because they ARE entitled to their opinions.

It saddens me that so many people are more interested in attacking people that enjoy the game (even if it’s an oblique attack) rather than just stating their own opinion as an opinion.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

That’s the problem, Anet actually thinks everything is ok because these small group are here constantly defending them. Meanwhile the majority of players hate it and Anet is oblivious to it. Not even a “guys we kittened up” and try to fix it…Anet is so blind sometimes.

BadBoyz.4153:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

That’s the problem, Anet actually thinks everything is ok because these small group are here constantly defending them. Meanwhile the majority of players hate it and Anet is oblivious to it. Not even a “guys we kittened up” and try to fix it…Anet is so blind sometimes.

Back it up. How do you know a majority hate it? There’s zero evidence for this. A majority of people probably don’t like some facet of it, but I seriously doubt a majority of people hate it. And I don’t think a minority of people are defending it.

But logically, if you look at the forums, the first page is always constantly full of negative posts. So how does a minority of people defend them to the point where they don’t notice this.

Maybe, just maybe, you don’t have the majority you think you do.

BadBoyz.4153:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

That’s the problem, Anet actually thinks everything is ok because these small group are here constantly defending them. Meanwhile the majority of players hate it and Anet is oblivious to it. Not even a “guys we kittened up” and try to fix it…Anet is so blind sometimes.

Small group? Source please, fact is forum is the small group. Official forum only contain small minority of people, most people does not go here because 1. they having more fun playing the game than complaining on forum. 2. Forum has an extremely bad reputation in GW2 player base and people knows not to come here.

I realised today how much it has invigorated the core game for me. I’m 50/50 on the new zones, mostly due to the shortened campaign and the over use of meta to drive replay, however it is extremely rare to see an expac give life to the old content.

I can take my alts to zones and work on;
- masteries
- collections for precursors/achievements points
- farm mats for precursors
- skill points for specialisations
on top of map completion and just having fun in each zone.

Now that list may sound small, but there are so many collections I can work on, it gives me options no matter where I go.

Is it HoT without flaws? No, there are some horrendous mistakes (imo) around story, reward structure, poor Guild Hall implementation, exploration lockouts (15 mins to run around DS after the meta was just daft, really just daft). But, it’s also countered by some decent events, masteries, gliding and more challenging content.

Overall I’m pretty happy. It’s just a video game at the end of the day so not something I’m going to get worked up over if it was a disappointment.

I totally Agree with this post I am loving HoT so much it brought me back again… I know its wishful thinking but I hope that ArenNet revisits all of Tiria with its update! I would not mind fighting Zeithan In my Glider again…

Glad you are enjoying it Dippy. I adore my Revenant, and while I think there are things that need fixing or to be addressed, I’m happy with the expansion overall.

warbignime.4610:

people knows not to come here.

And yet here we are.

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

warbignime.4610:

BadBoyz.4153:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

That’s the problem, Anet actually thinks everything is ok because these small group are here constantly defending them. Meanwhile the majority of players hate it and Anet is oblivious to it. Not even a “guys we kittened up” and try to fix it…Anet is so blind sometimes.

Small group? Source please, fact is forum is the small group. Official forum only contain small minority of people, most people does not go here because 1. they having more fun playing the game than complaining on forum. 2. Forum has an extremely bad reputation in GW2 player base and people knows not to come here.

3. They didn’t like (XYZ) so they quietly quit and never stopped by the forums at all.

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

Really? lol

This is the entirety of his FIRST post in this thread:

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.
For each their own.”

This is what I responded to. AFTERWARDS he said he likes the game. Do you get that from this post? Because I sure don’t.

Anyone who denies the implications of this post is not paying attention.

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

Really? lol

This is the entirety of his FIRST post in this thread:

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.
For each their own.”

This is what I responded to. AFTERWARDS he said he likes the game. Do you get that from this post? Because I sure don’t.

Anyone who denies the implications of this post is not paying attention.

1) I was responding to the post that quoted his, not your previous post.

2) Saying that person X will love something does not mean that only person X could love it.

My sister is planning a trip to Disneyland. My nieces will really love it.

This does not translate into, “only my nieces love Disneyland.”

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

Really? lol

This is the entirety of his FIRST post in this thread:

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.
For each their own.”

This is what I responded to. AFTERWARDS he said he likes the game. Do you get that from this post? Because I sure don’t.

Anyone who denies the implications of this post is not paying attention.

To be accurate… THIS is the entirety of his first post. (It doesn’t say he likes the game either, but it is his actual first post.)

“Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry."

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

Really? lol

This is the entirety of his FIRST post in this thread:

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.
For each their own.”

This is what I responded to. AFTERWARDS he said he likes the game. Do you get that from this post? Because I sure don’t.

Anyone who denies the implications of this post is not paying attention.

1) I was responding to the post that quoted his, not your previous post.

2) Saying that person X will love something does not mean that only person X could love it.

My sister is planning a trip to Disneyland. My nieces will really love it.

This does not translate into, “only my nieces love Disneyland.”

You can defend him all you want. But English isn’t just my first language, it’s my profession. When someone says White Knights will enjoy it, white knights be used as a derogatory term, since he’s basically saying they’ll like ANYTHING there’s another implication here. You just want to argue with me.

If you said my nieces are going to Disneyworld and I said, oh a lot of morons enjoy that, you’d naturally take offense.

There really is no other way to interpret this, unless you think White Knights is being used as a matter of fact thing, or being used lovingly. It’s not. He’s denigrading white knights by saying theyd’ like anything Anet does.

Well I’m a white knight and there are things ANet has done I didn’t like and I’ve said so. But yeah, the English here is pretty clear.

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

Really? lol

This is the entirety of his FIRST post in this thread:

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.
For each their own.”

This is what I responded to. AFTERWARDS he said he likes the game. Do you get that from this post? Because I sure don’t.

Anyone who denies the implications of this post is not paying attention.

To be accurate… THIS is the entirety of his first post. (It doesn’t say he likes the game either, but it is his actual first post.)

“Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry."

He edited it out.

warbignime.4610:

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

Really? lol

This is the entirety of his FIRST post in this thread:

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.
For each their own.”

This is what I responded to. AFTERWARDS he said he likes the game. Do you get that from this post? Because I sure don’t.

Anyone who denies the implications of this post is not paying attention.

To be accurate… THIS is the entirety of his first post. (It doesn’t say he likes the game either, but it is his actual first post.)

“Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry."

He edited it out.

EDIT: Actually, I don’t think he did. I think the system did it, as it just did to me. I didn’t edit out the above. It seems like there’s a limit to the number of quotes within quotes you can do. Given that, I withdraw my original comment about what was the first post. It no longer applies.

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

Really? lol

This is the entirety of his FIRST post in this thread:

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.
For each their own.”

This is what I responded to. AFTERWARDS he said he likes the game. Do you get that from this post? Because I sure don’t.

Anyone who denies the implications of this post is not paying attention.

1) I was responding to the post that quoted his, not your previous post.

2) Saying that person X will love something does not mean that only person X could love it.

My sister is planning a trip to Disneyland. My nieces will really love it.

This does not translate into, “only my nieces love Disneyland.”

You can defend him all you want. But English isn’t just my first language, it’s my profession. When someone says White Knights will enjoy it, white knights be used as a derogatory term, since he’s basically saying they’ll like ANYTHING there’s another implication here. You just want to argue with me.

If you said my nieces are going to Disneyworld and I said, oh a lot of morons enjoy that, you’d naturally take offense.

There really is no other way to interpret this, unless you think White Knights is being used as a matter of fact thing, or being used lovingly. It’s not. He’s denigrading white knights by saying theyd’ like anything Anet does.

Well I’m a white knight and there are things ANet has done I didn’t like and I’ve said so. But yeah, the English here is pretty clear.

Seriously?

English is not my first language, and it is not my profession. Still I know what I wrote, and I will point out that your interpretation of what is written is just your interpretation, no matter how “good” you are with your mother tongue.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry.

This is an answer to: “Even having only scratched the surface yet”

This shows that the OP has very limited experience with the expansion, he is probably still in the honeymoon phase. See, there is a probably in my answer, because it is an educated guess.

Furthermore I am pointing out the possibility that his love for HoT may change, I don’t state this as a fact. “You might feel different.” and not “You will feel different.”

Kaiyanwan.8521:

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

For each their own.

All I say is that some people will defend ANet no matter what. I do not specify these people but label them as white knights, as they are commonly refered to this in MMOs.

I didn’t label you there as white knight Vayne. In fact, the only person in this whole thread calling you a white knight is you:

Vayne.8563:

Well I’m a white knight and there are things ANet has done I didn’t like and I’ve said so. But yeah, the English here is pretty clear.

But this is your interpretation of a white knight not mine. You are actively victimizing yourself in this context to support your point. But again, I did not call you a white knight in my post.

Look I love GW2 and play HoT. I just think we got very little content for the amount of money we paid. Which is disappointing.

So your interpretation of what I said:

Vayne.8563:

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

makes no sense at all.

Stop using your “knowledge” of the English language to make things up that do not exist.

I love some of it, but not others.
My last time playing was a mix.
Getting sick of the areas where everything that moves exists only to kill my character and send them back to a waypoint. But I also did an event helping a frog village from a wyvern and that was actually really cool thing to stumble across. Made me feel like a hero.

Way to rain down on his parade, guys.
I’m happy that someone else is enjoying the content too.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

Ashen.2907:

Vayne.8563:

What now? This is your quote…

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.”

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

Nope.

What he said is that some individuals (which he calls white knights) would love, “it.” Not that only white knights like the game, etc.

He did, after all, state that he likes the game (at least aspects of it).

Really? lol

This is the entirety of his FIRST post in this thread:

“That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.
For each their own.”

This is what I responded to. AFTERWARDS he said he likes the game. Do you get that from this post? Because I sure don’t.

Anyone who denies the implications of this post is not paying attention.

1) I was responding to the post that quoted his, not your previous post.

2) Saying that person X will love something does not mean that only person X could love it.

My sister is planning a trip to Disneyland. My nieces will really love it.

This does not translate into, “only my nieces love Disneyland.”

You can defend him all you want. But English isn’t just my first language, it’s my profession. When someone says White Knights will enjoy it, white knights be used as a derogatory term, since he’s basically saying they’ll like ANYTHING there’s another implication here. You just want to argue with me.

If you said my nieces are going to Disneyworld and I said, oh a lot of morons enjoy that, you’d naturally take offense.

There really is no other way to interpret this, unless you think White Knights is being used as a matter of fact thing, or being used lovingly. It’s not. He’s denigrading white knights by saying theyd’ like anything Anet does.

Well I’m a white knight and there are things ANet has done I didn’t like and I’ve said so. But yeah, the English here is pretty clear.

Seriously?

English is not my first language, and it is not my profession. Still I know what I wrote, and I will point out that your interpretation of what is written is just your interpretation, no matter how “good” you are with your mother tongue.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Probably still in the honeymoon phase.

After playing a bit more and realizing how little there actually is, you might feel different.

Sorry.

This is an answer to: “Even having only scratched the surface yet”

This shows that the OP has very limited experience with the expansion, he is probably still in the honeymoon phase. See, there is a probably in my answer, because it is an educated guess.

Furthermore I am pointing out the possibility that his love for HoT may change, I don’t state this as a fact. “You might feel different.” and not “You will feel different.”

Kaiyanwan.8521:

That’s OK. For some white knights ANet could sell an expansion with absolutely nothing in it for $100 and they would still defend an love it.

For each their own.

All I say is that some people will defend ANet no matter what. I do not specify these people but label them as white knights, as they are commonly refered to this in MMOs.

I didn’t label you there as white knight Vayne. In fact, the only person in this whole thread calling you a white knight is you:

Vayne.8563:

Well I’m a white knight and there are things ANet has done I didn’t like and I’ve said so. But yeah, the English here is pretty clear.

But this is your interpretation of a white knight not mine. You are actively victimizing yourself in this context to support your point. But again, I did not call you a white knight in my post.

Look I love GW2 and play HoT. I just think we got very little content for the amount of money we paid. Which is disappointing.

So your interpretation of what I said:

Vayne.8563:

So the implication…hell you’re just about saying it, is that this game is only liked by white knights who will defend Anet over everything.

makes no sense at all.

Stop using your “knowledge” of the English language to make things up that do not exist.

My intepretation is the best interpretation given the word you used period. Feel free to disagree, but I will not say that my professional opinion on this subject, and it is a professional opinion, is less than yours.

It might not be what you meant. It was absolutely what you implied. If it wasn’t you’ve chosen your words poorly.

Vayne.8563:

My intepretation is the best interpretation given the word you used period. Feel free to disagree, but I will not say that my professional opinion on this subject, and it is a professional opinion, is less than yours.

It might not be what you meant. It was absolutely what you implied. If it wasn’t you’ve chosen your words poorly.

Well, I show you the facts, you with your superior interpretation skills make something up – a product of your fantasy.

I will stay with the facts. You do not.

With your constant attacks on any feedback you do not like and your forced interpretation on stuff, it feels like you are purposefully derailing this thread by trolling other people’s posts.

Please stop.

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Vayne.8563:

My intepretation is the best interpretation given the word you used period. Feel free to disagree, but I will not say that my professional opinion on this subject, and it is a professional opinion, is less than yours.

It might not be what you meant. It was absolutely what you implied. If it wasn’t you’ve chosen your words poorly.

Well, I show you the facts, you with your superior interpretation skills make something up – a product of your fantasy.

I will stay with the facts. You do not.

With your constant attacks on any feedback you do not like and your forced interpretation on stuff, it feels like you are purposefully derailing this thread by trolling other people’s posts.

Please stop.

Look it’s really simple. If your point was some people like it and some people don’t, you wouldn’t have brought up white knights at all. You had no reason to. The only reason anyone would bring it up, conceivably, is to show that somehow the people who like this will like anything.

If you were just trying to say I don’t like it, why bring up white knights at all. What do they have to do with your point? How do they strengthen your point.

Someone said they like the game and you brought up that white knights will like anything as a response.

If there’s a another honest way to interpret that, I can’t see it.

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Vayne.8563:

My intepretation is the best interpretation given the word you used period. Feel free to disagree, but I will not say that my professional opinion on this subject, and it is a professional opinion, is less than yours.

It might not be what you meant. It was absolutely what you implied. If it wasn’t you’ve chosen your words poorly.

Well, I show you the facts, you with your superior interpretation skills make something up – a product of your fantasy.

I will stay with the facts. You do not.

With your constant attacks on any feedback you do not like and your forced interpretation on stuff, it feels like you are purposefully derailing this thread by trolling other people’s posts.

Please stop.

Look it’s really simple. If your point was some people like it and some people don’t, you wouldn’t have brought up white knights at all. You had no reason to. The only reason anyone would bring it up, conceivably, is to show that somehow the people who like this will like anything.

If you were just trying to say I don’t like it, why bring up white knights at all. What do they have to do with your point? How do they strengthen your point.

Someone said they like the game and you brought up that white knights will like anything as a response.

If there’s a another honest way to interpret that, I can’t see it.

I see you’re going over board in this thread to defend the game. If you’re not on Arena Net’s payroll. You should. Or else you’ve been getting ripped off.

Azure Prower.8701:

Vayne.8563:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Vayne.8563:

My intepretation is the best interpretation given the word you used period. Feel free to disagree, but I will not say that my professional opinion on this subject, and it is a professional opinion, is less than yours.

It might not be what you meant. It was absolutely what you implied. If it wasn’t you’ve chosen your words poorly.

Well, I show you the facts, you with your superior interpretation skills make something up – a product of your fantasy.

I will stay with the facts. You do not.

With your constant attacks on any feedback you do not like and your forced interpretation on stuff, it feels like you are purposefully derailing this thread by trolling other people’s posts.

Please stop.

Look it’s really simple. If your point was some people like it and some people don’t, you wouldn’t have brought up white knights at all. You had no reason to. The only reason anyone would bring it up, conceivably, is to show that somehow the people who like this will like anything.

If you were just trying to say I don’t like it, why bring up white knights at all. What do they have to do with your point? How do they strengthen your point.

Someone said they like the game and you brought up that white knights will like anything as a response.

If there’s a another honest way to interpret that, I can’t see it.

I see you’re going over board in this thread to defend the game. If you’re not on Arena Net’s payroll. You should. Or else you’ve been getting ripped off.

I haven’t defended the game once in this thread. I haven’t even talked about this game. I have talked about an attack on white knights, or people implying you have to be one to enjoy the game, though. That’s not the same.