Guild Wars 2

If the developers are still having trouble placing the Moa skill for the mesmer elite. could we put it into a Mantra,

i was thinking something like a 180s cooldown before rechanneling
and a 30s or 40s cooldown between casts with the 1s cast time. this would make it more fun in PvP.

I have enjoyed it in PvP a lot, but it is pretty much a 1 time skill with the current cooldown. this would also make Mantra Mesmers even more fun to play… in my opinion.

what do you all think?

Moa doesn’t make sense as a mantra. Maybe a new specialization could have a new mantra.

I definitely do not want to Moa to have 2 cast when they have 10 second transform.

runeblade.7514:

Moa doesn’t make sense as a mantra. Maybe a new specialization could have a new mantra.

I definitely do not want to Moa to have 2 cast when they have 10 second transform.

or 3 when traited (less they removed that trait, i didn’t lookat future mez). it’d need a much shorter duration, longer than 30s between casts.

i never said it had to be 10s for the mantra version. that is subject to the balancing and rebuilding of the skill.

and with Engineer getting AOE Moa transform i am not so sure i would say we cannot do this.

also the current alternatives to the location of the Moa skill are. Glamour, Manipulation, Clone, or Signet… i dont see it going into any of those categories very well.

Manipulation maybe, but i do think it would be better to make a Mantra Elite skill so players can get 5 different Mantras.

Being Manipulation would be more likely to get the Mass invis, and Timewarp is becoming a Glamour.

That’s a curious idea, creatively. I like it. What would the mantra to convince something that it is a moa? hm…

Mechanically, the “angry chicken” could indeed be adapted into a Mantra, but as it is now, it is categorically a Glamour. Glamour spells affect the appearances and/or perceptions of things, both of which apply to Moa Morph (you make them look like chickens and think they’re chickens simultaneously).

A case could be made to classify Moa Morph as a Manipulation as well, but in my opinion it doesn’t quite fit. Here’s why: the player still controls the moa. The skills and appearance change, but the player can think tactically, make decisions, and react thoughtfully. None of those things an actual moa bird could do. Were the character fully transformed into a wild animal, he or she would behave on that animal’s natural instinct and impulse rather than tactics.

Do not forget that engis are getting aoe Moas or something like that.

“Elixir X now transform enemies in an area to Moas.”
http://dulfy.net/2015/04/24/gw2-specializations-ama-livestream-notes/

Emtiarbi.3281:

Do not forget that engis are getting aoe Moas or something like that.

“Elixir X now transform enemies in an area to Moas.”
http://dulfy.net/2015/04/24/gw2-specializations-ama-livestream-notes/

In the video it’s a 2-3s moa, big difference, though still surely subject to change (was like 25s recharge too iirc, pretty sure that will change).

Jerus.4350:

Emtiarbi.3281:

Do not forget that engis are getting aoe Moas or something like that.

“Elixir X now transform enemies in an area to Moas.”
http://dulfy.net/2015/04/24/gw2-specializations-ama-livestream-notes/

In the video it’s a 2-3s moa, big difference, though still surely subject to change (was like 25s recharge too iirc, pretty sure that will change).

I don’t like that engis were studying us and now they can create Mesmer Moa Elixirs, soon they will start selling potions and Moa stuff. :super sad face:

ANet should simply reconsider also maybe just to remove some skilsl that they can’t categorize and replace them simpyl with new skills.

Moa was anyways a kind of I win button OP Elite in certain situations…

However if I had to give that Skill a category, I would turn it into a MANIPULATION, while Mass invisibility becomes GLAMOUR and Time Warp becomes a Signet that creates on activation its AoE Haste Field, while getting for its passive a new effect of creating when being under 50% health a circular Wave Attack that causes foes that get hit by it to be sufferign on Slow and Cripple then

And i hope that engi skil leffect gets changes its already lame enough how much the engi copies from other classes, ie. tornado from the Ele, now also Moas of mesmer.
I want an Engineer, not a Copycat

Never. Mantras are instant cast and can have one more cast added with harmonious mantras. Instant moa, then another one with 0 defenses against it? No way, Hose.

ZeftheWicked.3076:

Never. Mantras are instant cast and can have one more cast added with harmonious mantras. Instant moa, then another one with 0 defenses against it? No way, Hose.

don’t have to be instant cast, look at litany of wrath, guardian meditation heal. medi supposed to be instant, but not that skill, so

vote for invuln 2 sec mantra elite hands down

Xyonon.3987:

vote for invuln 2 sec mantra elite hands down

That is Mass Invi’s role.

runeblade.7514:

Xyonon.3987:

vote for invuln 2 sec mantra elite hands down

That is Mass Invi’s role.

role? no definitly not. mass invis displaces and decives and protects one but bigtime! invuln mantra would simply be a timed 3 times aoe “evade” wich allows you to counterplay for example backstabs. two totally different roles my friend.