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Posted by: Firebird Gomer.9563

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I run a Ranger.

What if a specification called Dervish is run only with a Mesmer or a Guardian.

This would be a sad sad day for me as Derv is my main from GW’s 1 and it is the only profession I want to use more than Ranger. (And I really like my Ranger)

Anet your scaring me please don’t make Dervish anothers Specification. It belongs to the Ranger. (Not trying to be entitled or anything just saying is all).

Also I think that you should make all Specifications available to all professions (at least eventually) So we can choose what way we wish to go. That’s true choice.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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How does Dervish have any sort of connection whatsoever to the Ranger?

Making all specializations available to all professions would make no sense whatsoever. The specializations are a branch of the existing profession and that professions knowledge and abilities, and as such it would make no sense for a completely different profession to suddenly be able to use it.

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Posted by: Lazaar.9123

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The specializations are just sub-classes, not actual secondary classes. Ranger gets druid because they already fit that theme.

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Posted by: Myrden.2456

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Didn’t they already say the Ranger’s specialization is Druid? Perhaps there’s more than one spec per profession, though. Not sure because the details were vague, at best.

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Posted by: penelopehannibal.8947

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In specialisations, they wouldn’t be very specialised if they were available to all professions. I can’t imagine my thief or my mesmer being too suited to being a Druid, not a Warrior being an assassin type Thief specialisation, or an Engineer having a Mesmer-type trickery specialisation.

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Posted by: Pyriel.4370

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I run a Ranger.

What if a specification called Dervish is run only with a Mesmer or a Guardian.

This would be a sad sad day for me as Derv is my main from GW’s 1 and it is the only profession I want to use more than Ranger. (And I really like my Ranger)

Anet your scaring me please don’t make Dervish anothers Specification. It belongs to the Ranger. (Not trying to be entitled or anything just saying is all).

Also I think that you should make all Specifications available to all professions (at least eventually) So we can choose what way we wish to go. That’s true choice.

The dervish if anything belongs to the newly created Revenant, as that class has the flavour and similar mechanics to dervish avatars as well as ritualist magic.

The ranger has always been a class of it’s own since Guild Wars 1. The Dervish has nothing to do with the ranger in any sense. The Dervish is monk-like and always communes with the human gods, the ranger has a pet and works with nature specifically. The Dervish had high armor and melee ranged attacks with the scythe, the Ranger….well is ranged, and has medium armor.

If they make the Dervish available on another class (the ranger has the druid specialisation) and you want to play a Dervish, then re-roll. You shouldn’t limit yourself to running only one class anyway, your cutting off a load of interesting game mechanics and fun.

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Posted by: Firebird Gomer.9563

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Actually I thought the Warrior or Guardian more than anything else would run Dervish style.

My point is that I would like to have a specification on the profession I play not the one I don’t play. And knowing my luck if they did do a Derv Spec it would go to a class I don’t play. And I am allowed to have a opinion.

Also sharing Spec’s to all the classes is totally do able and easily made to make each base profession different from each other. It’s all to do with the weapon skills and utilities and elite skills. Its already there with different professions using the same weapons and yet having different skills on their weapons.

Also and this one is just for the ones that say Ranger has nothing to do with Derv (AND IS ONLY A BIT OF FUN) Most of the clothes worn by Rangers are long cloak or dress like clothes. just like a Derv =-P Perfect for the spinning dance of the Dervs.

Also just so you know A Druid isn’t anything like a ranger either.

Here is a description of a druid:

A druid was a member of the educated, professional class among the Celtic peoples of Gaul, Britain, Ireland, and possibly elsewhere during the Iron Age. The druid class included law-speakers, poets and doctors, among other learned professions, although the best known among the druids were the religious leaders.

They don’t sound anything like a ranger so no I’m going to have disagree with the people who say that a Druid fits the theme of a Ranger. You shouldn’t watch so much TV it can make you think one thing is the truth when its actually a lie.

Ok so thanks for your input people.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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Except that the Druids is a race in GW lore that uses the same abilities as the Druid shown in the trailers.

Different worlds have different versions of things.

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Posted by: Palador.2170

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A druid was a member of the educated, professional class among the Celtic peoples of Gaul, Britain, Ireland, and possibly elsewhere during the Iron Age. The druid class included law-speakers, poets and doctors, among other learned professions, although the best known among the druids were the religious leaders.

They don’t sound anything like a ranger so no I’m going to have disagree with the people who say that a Druid fits the theme of a Ranger.

Tell that to my old norn Ranger. I’d say he fits the theme of Druid pretty well, what with the norn story telling, spiritual ties to the great spirits, passing down of lore and all.

And let’s look at “Ranger”, shall we? It’s safe to say that the Rangers of GW2 are not the same as the real world Rangers, any more than the GW2 Druids will be the same as the real world Druids. GW2 uses the typical fantasy, DnD meanings of those terms.

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Posted by: Firebird Gomer.9563

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Well I’m not sure about them using the same ability.

The only thing I saw the Ranger/Druid to was slap a staff to the ground and have some vines pop up. Maybe you saw more than I did. No wait I remember something like that now when the shining blade were running through the forest trying to get away you could make bridges with the druids. That should be great mechanics for Druids. We can help build bridges and help our party run over the top of enemies with mini bridges and never have to fight them.

the GW’s 1 wiki says this about Druids.

The Druids were a group of Krytan humans[citation needed] that long ago moved to the Maguuma Jungle in order to live with nature. It is said that they are devout followers of Melandru, though this is only rumors. According to the History of Tyria, they were forced out of jungles in the long distant past by other humans. They were last seen by others sometime before 982 AE and mysteriously vanished decades before 1072 AE. Although generally believed to have been killed off by the jungle’s predatory plants and animals, the Druids actually shed their physical bodies to become one with nature. The Druids now exist as spirits, appearing similar to Oakhearts.

Now its all cool that they were in the jungle and that’s where we are going. But that still doesn’t mean that ONLY rangers HAVE to be that.

Again EVERY Profession could be EVERY Spec its already there. Shared Weapons different skill sets.

And also I’m not fussed about what the Ranger becomes I’m fussed about what I cant become and whether or not some other profession gets it. =-P

You don’t have to agree but I’m still allowed to Dream, Hope, Wish and have my own opinion.

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Posted by: Pyriel.4370

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Druids also worshipped nature, something which the Rangers have a tight grasp over too, hence taming pets and having access to nature based attacks, thematically matching them with druids, especially with the nature spirits that rangers summon and the whole branch of skills under the name ‘Nature Magic’, also if I recall the Rangers placed strong emphasis on Melandru in GW1, your first potential pet was a Melandru’s Stalker from the quest that taught you how to get a pet.

Rangers and Dervish in GW are easily described as thus, Rangers keep their attention to the earth and nature, Dervish keep their attention to the heavens (similar to their real life Whirling Dervish counterparts).

In terms of flowy clothing, that can apply to all medium and light armoured classes, especially looking at the Human Tier 3 Cultural Light Armor (which has very Dervish-esque attachments to the lower garments).

It’s not so far fetched at all for the druid to match the ranger when you look around the bow. The druids themselves placed heavy emphasis on nature, wood spirits and magic, most of which the rangers utilise in skills within GW2.

Also if every class has access to all specialisations, it ruins a lot of uniqueness about running said class. Plus we do not know how far the specialisations go in terms of changing mechanics, it may be like a new class entirely, it may be a few extra skills/traits, it may be something in the middle. It wouldn’t make much sense for a Necromancer/Mesmer/Guardian/Warrior/Engineer/Thief to turn into a Druid if it was a lore based ‘specialisation’.

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Posted by: Drewan.5681

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(Not trying to be entitled or anything just saying is all).

Except that is exactly what you are being. You are being both entitled and selfish because another profession might get something you want and you are too lazy to role that profession.

Having all specializations available to everyone is just stupid and takes away any meaning behind the choice if say every warrior can become a druid. They have to fit. How would say a Charr engineer fit becoming a druid?

We get it, your salty you might not get the specialization you want on your ranger. I have a solution Points at create new character button You’re welcome. The thing about opinions though is they are like butts. Everyone has one, but some are crappier than others.

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

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If I were you, I would begin to stack these Tomes of Knowledge! If the dervish is a new specialization, and it rocks, well good! Just create a new character.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

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if you want a dervish, reroll a revenant. it seems to be mechanically just like dervs used to be.

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Posted by: Brother Grimm.5176

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Per the OPs question (if all their assumptions are correct), the answer is to START a new character that will lead to the desired specialization…..not sure how this is a difficult concept to accept.

I get that some players ONLY play one class or character, but that is a limitation that the player has placed upon themselves and the Devs (nor anyone else) has contorl over that decision.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

Point is: No, they won’t give you other professions specializations. Specials are supposed to be extension classes of the main class, therefor a Ranger can’t extend its abilities to a Chronomancer, lets say, because the Ranger had no time-space magic or related abilities to begin with. Dervish has little to do with Ranger’s abilities lore-wise, so it’s very unlikely it’ll be getting it[Like most people said, it’ll probably be a Reverent thing].