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New Class does't mean extra Slot!
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
lol owned….
guess this is /thread
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
because it wasn’t needed, since you already had the chance of creating one character per class, and it had also had dual talents and build templates so you could play a single class two ways.
And it is kitten relevant is you only get 5 slots initally. 59 slots are 590 euros in GW2, on WoW you get 50 for free, which means you get the equivalent of what gw2 sells for 450 euros.
Oh, and the possibility of having characters on different servers.
Also when WotLK went out with the Death Knight, the char limit in a single server was at 10. And it just happens that the Death Knight was the 10th class in the game :p
So unless you made on a single server, twice the same class, while also filling up the 8 other char slots, ANd if you had no intention of playing on another server at all, you would be able to play a death knight without any issue. I doubt this situation would happen much, if at all.
When the Monk class was released, they upped the limit to 11 so that you could have one of every class on a single server.
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
It is not irrelevant.
Not including that information is a form of lying – https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Lie#Lying_by_omission
If you can easily create a character because you have so many slots, which you can in WoW, then the number of slots isn’t a big issue. Indeed, before DKs, WoW had more slots/server than classes, which is why they didn’t need to add one (people rarely playing more than one character of the same class on the same server).
Not including a slot if Anet’s choice, but it means the real cost of the expansion is $60 to most players if they want to play the new class.
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
because it wasn’t needed, since you already had the chance of creating one character per class, and it had also had dual talents and build templates so you could play a single class two ways.
And it is kitten relevant is you only get 5 slots initally. 59 slots are 590 euros in GW2, on WoW you get 50
for free, which means you get the equivalent of what gw2 sells for 450 euros.
Oh, and the possibility of having characters on different servers.
nope, not for free, for 15€ a monath. after 3 years = 540€. WoW is in its 10th year now so this means if you played from the very beginning you payed 1800 (36€ per Characerslot)for your 50 Slots + every expansion if you always buyed when they released.
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
because it wasn’t needed, since you already had the chance of creating one character per class, and it had also had dual talents and build templates so you could play a single class two ways.
And it is kitten relevant is you only get 5 slots initally. 59 slots are 590 euros in GW2, on WoW you get 50
for free, which means you get the equivalent of what gw2 sells for 450 euros.
Oh, and the possibility of having characters on different servers.nope, not for free, for 15€ a monath. after 3 years = 540€. WoW is in its 10th year now so this means if you played from the very beginning you payed 1800 (36€ per Characerslot)for your 50 Slots + every expansion if you always buyed when they released.
because that’s another business model. Still, they did give out free slots for the eleventh class, so your argument doesn’t hold any water.
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Also lastly, you cannot actually buy more char slots in WoW so it’s not even something they sell. The lack of char slot in an expansion that affects you cannot even be attributed to greed of them wanting for us to fork more money.
Not to put a further damper on your thread… but you say LOTRO added 3 classes, yet you somehow you think you can lie and tell us that not every expansion that added a class also added a character slot for that class… which seems odd since we are all capable of using google…
Not to put a further damper on your thread… but you say LOTRO added 3 classes, yet you somehow you think you can lie and tell us that not every expansion that added a class also added a character slot for that class… which seems odd since we are all capable of using google…
So, basically he didn’t get a single fact straight?
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
because it wasn’t needed, since you already had the chance of creating one character per class, and it had also had dual talents and build templates so you could play a single class two ways.
And it is kitten relevant is you only get 5 slots initally. 59 slots are 590 euros in GW2, on WoW you get 50
for free, which means you get the equivalent of what gw2 sells for 450 euros.
Oh, and the possibility of having characters on different servers.nope, not for free, for 15€ a monath. after 3 years = 540€. WoW is in its 10th year now so this means if you played from the very beginning you payed 1800 (36€ per Characerslot)for your 50 Slots + every expansion if you always buyed when they released.
But with that €15,— you don’t have a cashshop, where you can buy armor skins for € 10,— or buy bankslots for € 10,— or buy finishers and other stuff for a great sum of money. Yes as a GW2 you aren’t forced to use real money, you can use ingame gold.
But for the most casual players it will take long time to get something with ingame gold. When you calculate the stuff which people buy in item shop the costs of a sub for a WoW, is WoW cheaper and where you get more stuff to use.
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Not to put a further damper on your thread… but you say LOTRO added 3 classes, yet you somehow you think you can lie and tell us that not every expansion that added a class also added a character slot for that class… which seems odd since we are all capable of using google…
oooooops…
think topic starter should have studied some more.
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WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
because it wasn’t needed, since you already had the chance of creating one character per class, and it had also had dual talents and build templates so you could play a single class two ways.
And it is kitten relevant is you only get 5 slots initally. 59 slots are 590 euros in GW2, on WoW you get 50
for free, which means you get the equivalent of what gw2 sells for 450 euros.
Oh, and the possibility of having characters on different servers.nope, not for free, for 15€ a monath. after 3 years = 540€. WoW is in its 10th year now so this means if you played from the very beginning you payed 1800 (36€ per Characerslot)for your 50 Slots + every expansion if you always buyed when they released.
But with that €15,— you don’t have a cashshop, where you can buy armor skins for € 10,— or buy bankslots for € 10,— or buy finishers and other stuff for a great sum of money. Yes as a GW2 you aren’t forced to use real money, you can use ingame gold.
But for the most casual players it will take long time to get something with ingame gold. When you calculate the stuff which people buy in item shop the costs of a sub for a WoW, is WoW cheaper and where you get more stuff to use.
you can buy mounts and pets, and even some cosmetic armor in WoW
true i made a mistake on the LotRO one. Its long ago since i played it, and i could only remember that you can buy the classes by itself without any Slots to it. Yet the Beorninger Class doesent seem to add a Slot, only if you buy it in a Bundle.
For the WoW example its true what i said, with the inclusion of the Death Knight they didn’t added slots. Also for the different added Race they didn’t. Only once the 11the class came.
And if you spent 10€ a month on the gamestore the last three years, you would have acces to more then enough characterslots(36). that you chosed to not do so, is not ANet’s fault. its their buisness model to live from the gemstore purchases.
Yet my statement stays, are there so many Expanson that added classes and slots at the same time? If so, you can name some for sure.
get the deluxe package and quit complaining about an extra slot?
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
because it wasn’t needed, since you already had the chance of creating one character per class, and it had also had dual talents and build templates so you could play a single class two ways.
And it is kitten relevant is you only get 5 slots initally. 59 slots are 590 euros in GW2, on WoW you get 50
for free, which means you get the equivalent of what gw2 sells for 450 euros.
Oh, and the possibility of having characters on different servers.nope, not for free, for 15€ a monath. after 3 years = 540€. WoW is in its 10th year now so this means if you played from the very beginning you payed 1800 (36€ per Characerslot)for your 50 Slots + every expansion if you always buyed when they released.
But with that €15,— you don’t have a cashshop, where you can buy armor skins for € 10,— or buy bankslots for € 10,— or buy finishers and other stuff for a great sum of money. Yes as a GW2 you aren’t forced to use real money, you can use ingame gold.
But for the most casual players it will take long time to get something with ingame gold. When you calculate the stuff which people buy in item shop the costs of a sub for a WoW, is WoW cheaper and where you get more stuff to use.
you can buy mounts and pets, and even some cosmetic armor in WoW
true i made a mistake on the LotRO one. Its long ago since i played it, and i could only remember that you can buy the classes by itself without any Slots to it. Yet the Beorninger Class doesent seem to add a Slot, only if you buy it in a Bundle.
For the WoW example its true what i said, with the inclusion of the Death Knight they didn’t added slots. Also for the different added Race they didn’t. Only once the 11the class came.
And if you spent 10€ a month on the gamestore the last three years, you would have acces to more then enough characterslots(36). that you chosed to not do so, is not ANet’s fault. its their buisness model to live from the gemstore purchases.
Yet my statement stays, are there so many Expanson that added classes and slots at the same time? If so, you can name some for sure.
Again?
They didn’t add slots because it would be overabundant. it’s like if GW2 came out with nine characters slots for 8 professions.
All the expansions you said didn’t have character slots, actually had character slots. If you say that Death Knight didn’t come out with a character slot you are lying by omission since the game already had one character slot extra that almost no one used since leveling a single class twice in WoW is really, really rare.
Only for races they didn’t add slots because, you know, race is only aesthetics.
And yes, wow is adding aesthetic content now, but guess, what, WoW is now free to play for veteran players since they can purchase their subscription with gold if they want to.
Honestly, I am a bit surprised how much this seems to bother people.
Some games gave you free slots, some didn’t. Don’t forget, the payment system is rather unique in the MMO world. You get off cheap in some regards but have to pay more in others. The game delivers great value for your money still.
It would been a gesture of goodwill towards their customers to be sure. There is no rule that says new characters come with an extra slot however.
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
because it wasn’t needed, since you already had the chance of creating one character per class, and it had also had dual talents and build templates so you could play a single class two ways.
And it is kitten relevant is you only get 5 slots initally. 59 slots are 590 euros in GW2, on WoW you get 50
for free, which means you get the equivalent of what gw2 sells for 450 euros.
Oh, and the possibility of having characters on different servers.nope, not for free, for 15€ a monath. after 3 years = 540€. WoW is in its 10th year now so this means if you played from the very beginning you payed 1800 (36€ per Characerslot)for your 50 Slots + every expansion if you always buyed when they released.
But with that €15,— you don’t have a cashshop, where you can buy armor skins for € 10,— or buy bankslots for € 10,— or buy finishers and other stuff for a great sum of money. Yes as a GW2 you aren’t forced to use real money, you can use ingame gold.
But for the most casual players it will take long time to get something with ingame gold. When you calculate the stuff which people buy in item shop the costs of a sub for a WoW, is WoW cheaper and where you get more stuff to use.
you can buy mounts and pets, and even some cosmetic armor in WoW
true i made a mistake on the LotRO one. Its long ago since i played it, and i could only remember that you can buy the classes by itself without any Slots to it. Yet the Beorninger Class doesent seem to add a Slot, only if you buy it in a Bundle.
For the WoW example its true what i said, with the inclusion of the Death Knight they didn’t added slots. Also for the different added Race they didn’t. Only once the 11the class came.
And if you spent 10€ a month on the gamestore the last three years, you would have acces to more then enough characterslots(36). that you chosed to not do so, is not ANet’s fault. its their buisness model to live from the gemstore purchases.
Yet my statement stays, are there so many Expanson that added classes and slots at the same time? If so, you can name some for sure.
Again?
They didn’t add slots because it would be overabundant. it’s like if GW2 came out with nine characters slots for 8 professions.All the expansions you said didn’t have character slots, actually had character slots. If you say that Death Knight didn’t come out with a character slot you are lying by omission since the game already had one character slot extra that almost no one used since leveling a single class twice in WoW is really, really rare.
Only for races they didn’t add slots because, you know, race is only aesthetics.
And yes, wow is adding aesthetic content now, but guess, what, WoW is now free to play for veteran players since they can purchase their subscription with gold if they want to.
still i didnt lied, i said they didnt added a slot, and thats what they done. that there were already slots for 10 classes doesn’t makes me a liar.
Honestly, I am a bit surprised how much this seems to bother people.
Some games gave you free slots, some didn’t. Don’t forget, the payment system is rather unique in the MMO world. You get off cheap in some regards but have to pay more in others. The game delivers great value for your money still.
It would been a gesture of goodwill towards their customers to be sure. There is no rule that says new characters come with an extra slot however.
Goodwill is what keep games running tbh :S Especially when they don’t actually need to invest money to play. Games like LoL or Dota2 or GW2 monetize on how much their players enjoy their content, since they don’t actually need to pay to play the game past the initial purchase.
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
still, my statement is true, they didn’t added a new slot for the first new class. How many Slots are avaible is irrelevant for this statement. As i could say GW2 allow for 64 Slots.
because it wasn’t needed, since you already had the chance of creating one character per class, and it had also had dual talents and build templates so you could play a single class two ways.
And it is kitten relevant is you only get 5 slots initally. 59 slots are 590 euros in GW2, on WoW you get 50
for free, which means you get the equivalent of what gw2 sells for 450 euros.
Oh, and the possibility of having characters on different servers.nope, not for free, for 15€ a monath. after 3 years = 540€. WoW is in its 10th year now so this means if you played from the very beginning you payed 1800 (36€ per Characerslot)for your 50 Slots + every expansion if you always buyed when they released.
But with that €15,— you don’t have a cashshop, where you can buy armor skins for € 10,— or buy bankslots for € 10,— or buy finishers and other stuff for a great sum of money. Yes as a GW2 you aren’t forced to use real money, you can use ingame gold.
But for the most casual players it will take long time to get something with ingame gold. When you calculate the stuff which people buy in item shop the costs of a sub for a WoW, is WoW cheaper and where you get more stuff to use.
you can buy mounts and pets, and even some cosmetic armor in WoW
true i made a mistake on the LotRO one. Its long ago since i played it, and i could only remember that you can buy the classes by itself without any Slots to it. Yet the Beorninger Class doesent seem to add a Slot, only if you buy it in a Bundle.
For the WoW example its true what i said, with the inclusion of the Death Knight they didn’t added slots. Also for the different added Race they didn’t. Only once the 11the class came.
And if you spent 10€ a month on the gamestore the last three years, you would have acces to more then enough characterslots(36). that you chosed to not do so, is not ANet’s fault. its their buisness model to live from the gemstore purchases.
Yet my statement stays, are there so many Expanson that added classes and slots at the same time? If so, you can name some for sure.
Again?
They didn’t add slots because it would be overabundant. it’s like if GW2 came out with nine characters slots for 8 professions.All the expansions you said didn’t have character slots, actually had character slots. If you say that Death Knight didn’t come out with a character slot you are lying by omission since the game already had one character slot extra that almost no one used since leveling a single class twice in WoW is really, really rare.
Only for races they didn’t add slots because, you know, race is only aesthetics.
And yes, wow is adding aesthetic content now, but guess, what, WoW is now free to play for veteran players since they can purchase their subscription with gold if they want to.still i didnt lied, i said they didnt added a slot, and thats what they done. that there were already slots for 10 classes doesn’t makes me a liar.
It does: WoW had 1 character slot for each class available. When they added another class, they also added a slot.
GW2 starts with 5 slots for 8 classes and doesn’t add another slot for the ninth class.
WoW has 50 character slots, ten per server, raised to eleven with the addition of the monk class. Also, you can create one character per class.
Where do you get your sources?
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It does: WoW had 1 character slot for each class available. When they added another class, they also added a slot.
GW2 starts with 5 slots for 8 classes and doesn’t add another slot for the ninth class.
It doesn’t. WoW was a sub, different models different standards. WoW also didn’t allow you to buy slots with ingame money. GW2 is designed to where if you want all classes active you have to purchase extra slots. This was implied on design as well as expansions. They could have, and should have, gave only 3 slots per copy, but it seems they did a middle ground by doing 1 for each race.
Love it or hate how Anet does business, but it should be expected from a B2P w/no P2W or massive paywalls.
It does: WoW had 1 character slot for each class available. When they added another class, they also added a slot.
GW2 starts with 5 slots for 8 classes and doesn’t add another slot for the ninth class.It doesn’t. WoW was a sub, different models different standards. WoW also didn’t allow you to buy slots with ingame money. GW2 is designed to where if you want all classes active you have to purchase extra slots. This was implied on design as well as expansions. They could have, and should have, gave only 3 slots per copy, but it seems they did a middle ground by doing 1 for each race.
Love it or hate how Anet does business, but it should be expected from a B2P w/no P2W or massive paywalls.
It does. he said that other games, even with subscription, didn’t give away character slots for new classes and that was a lie.
Also, the character slot is just the equivalent of how much was worth gw2 core game at its lowest buying price.
It does. he said that other games, even with subscription, didn’t give away character slots for new classes and that was a lie.
Also, the character slot is just the equivalent of how much was worth gw2 core game at its lowest buying price.
From what I read he said they didn’t ALWAYS give out slots, which is true even for subs. Again a moot point in comparing.
GW2 holds no value now, comparing its lowest pre-expansion price to post is false. Especially since vanilla GW2 isn’t going to be vanilla, it will be HoT:GW2 since they are incorporating aspects of HoT into it. Not to mention all the events, skins, LS1 that people who bought vanilla got that new players don’t.
It does. he said that other games, even with subscription, didn’t give away character slots for new classes and that was a lie.
Also, the character slot is just the equivalent of how much was worth gw2 core game at its lowest buying price.
From what I read he said they didn’t ALWAYS give out slots, which is true even for subs. Again a moot point in comparing.
GW2 holds no value now, comparing its lowest pre-expansion price to post is false. Especially since vanilla GW2 isn’t going to be vanilla, it will be HoT:GW2 since they are incorporating aspects of HoT into it. Not to mention all the events, skins, LS1 that people who bought vanilla got that new players don’t.
Except they won’t change dungeons, and most of the new content is HoT only.
Anyway, he did that WoW and LOTRO didn’t add character slots, when they did, so what he said is false. I could also mention f2p games like Vindictus that also added slots for new characters added.
Well I decided to look at your last example of EQ2
This one was more foreign to me, and also more complicated.
F2P players get 2 character slots, though you can upgrade to silver for a one time fee of $5 to get an additional 2 character slots as well as various other perks.
They have added 16 expansions over the games very long lifetime…
Unfortunately for GW2 12 of those expansions are free, one was broken up into gem store items and was hard to put a value on and the last 3 are only $15-30 each. They sell character slots for $10 just like GW2, meaning you can get the expansion + character slot for a total of $25-$40. which is $20-35 cheaper than a GW2 expansion + character slot.
So in total we have:
1. WoW… completely wrong, 50 character slots for free, added a character slot of every expansion that put the classes over the per server character limit
2. LOTRO… completely wrong, all class adding expansions included a character slot and were cheaper than GW2 expansions.
3. EQ2… Complicated. Same model as GW2, most expansion were free, paid expansions with purchase of a character slot were on average $30 cheaper than GW2.
Would you like to try some different games? I think you might be better off stopping while you are behind…
If you put aside all these false statements in the first post, I agree that Anet is not obligated to give us a char slot, but including one would be a sign of a good will, especially when new players are getting so much more for the same price.
Once again, Anet owe us nothing, but still many players feel like they are being treated unfairly. Some argue that old players got more already because they were playing the game for some time now and they experienced stuff that new players did not…but those old players did pay for all of that, it’s not like they tricked Anet or something.
I think that if Anet did include char slot for existing player, 90% of this “rage” would not happen. Personally, i have all 8 classes at lvl 80 and have enough gems to buy few more slots, but for now I will wait and see what’s gonna happen…
It does. he said that other games, even with subscription, didn’t give away character slots for new classes and that was a lie.
Also, the character slot is just the equivalent of how much was worth gw2 core game at its lowest buying price.
From what I read he said they didn’t ALWAYS give out slots, which is true even for subs. Again a moot point in comparing.
GW2 holds no value now, comparing its lowest pre-expansion price to post is false. Especially since vanilla GW2 isn’t going to be vanilla, it will be HoT:GW2 since they are incorporating aspects of HoT into it. Not to mention all the events, skins, LS1 that people who bought vanilla got that new players don’t.
Except they won’t change dungeons, and most of the new content is HoT only.
Anyway, he did that WoW and LOTRO didn’t add character slots, when they did, so what he said is false. I could also mention f2p games like Vindictus that also added slots for new characters added.
seems you didn’T read carefully
i stated that WoW- with WotLK didn’t added Slots but it did with MoP. the 2 Expansions that added classes. The one with LotRO was me being wrong about the Warden, Rune-kepper, i admit that. still the Beorninger does need an slot to be extra paid.
Well I decided to look at your last example of EQ2
This one was more foreign to me, and also more complicated.
F2P players get 2 character slots, though you can upgrade to silver for a one time fee of $5 to get an additional 2 character slots as well as various other perks.
They have added 16 expansions over the games very long lifetime…
Unfortunately for GW2 12 of those expansions are free, one was broken up into gem store items and was hard to put a value on and the last 3 are only $15-30 each. They sell character slots for $10 just like GW2, meaning you can get the expansion + character slot for a total of $25-$40. which is $20-35 cheaper than a GW2 expansion + character slot.
So in total we have:
1. WoW… completely wrong, 50 character slots for free, added a character slot of every expansion that put the classes over the per server character limit
2. LOTRO… completely wrong, all class adding expansions included a character slot and were cheaper than GW2 expansions.
3. EQ2… Complicated. Same model as GW2, most expansion were free, paid expansions with purchase of a character slot were on average $30 cheaper than GW2.Would you like to try some different games? I think you might be better off stopping while you are behind…
You are wrong on WoW. They didn’t added a slot for the Death Knight. The Slot was there from the beging of WoW Vanilla.
LotRO- half/half, 2 classes got added with an expansion with characterslot, the other one was sold by its own without slot, or bundles with a slot(for more money)
Everquest i agree, yet it is far older, and went from sub to f2p, so its not in the same ball park, yet its the closest
It also should be noted that the costs for an additional character slot are miniscule from the provider point of view. They are expensive for us if we decide to buy them, but not for ArenaNet or NCSoft if they would decide to give them out for free.
Having slots as a cash cow because of the revenant is the only reason why they didn’t give you one as part of the standard edition and that’s the kind of behavior that really upsets me.
I would accept this if all the additional money would be used to further polish the game and to develop new content, but that’s not how the economy works, especially as soon as you deal with market-listed companies like NCSoft.
A sizeable chunk of the money won’t be reinvested in GW2 but used to please shareholders and other corporate bs, and that’s the point where a business practice is the result of nothing but greed. They already make a lot of money with the game and they certainly would have with a better HoT deal, but it’s never enough for them, they want more and forcing players to buy a character slot for the revenant is a method to accomplish this.
While that’s not illegal by any means, it’s also the point where there really is no overlap between corporate and consumer interests. If you support such behaviour as a customer, you encourage such business practices and that’s not a good thing for all GW2 players in the long run.
Points proven wrong on every game and still not giving up.
Its just not true what you all started.
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Points proven wrong on every game and still not giving up.
Its just not true what you all started.
wrong i’m still right on WoW.
2 of 3 classes i was wrong for LotRO, i admit that.
Everqeust, right.
GuildWars: Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall are not Expansions! They are stand alone games. If you add any of them, even the first one without any new classes it adds 2 slots to your game, yet the only true expanions EotN does not add any Slots.
Campaings are expansions since they share the same world, same lore, same servers and you can play all of them with the same character. EotN didnt add any slots because there was no any new classes, DUH.
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Ah, the old gw2 offered char slots on stand alone games only.
A glaring omission is made in that statement that make that argument null and void:
While it is true that eotn didn’t include a char slot, it is also true that eotn did NOT introduce a new profession either. The correct statement should be:
Up until HoT, anet ALWAYS included char slots when they introduced a new class.
That is a fact you cannot escape from and that is why people would likes char slot.
There has never been a good war, or a bad peace.
Points proven wrong on every game and still not giving up.
Its just not true what you all started.wrong i’m still right on WoW.
2 of 3 classes i was wrong for LotRO, i admit that.
Everqeust, right.
You would be right if GW2 offered nine character slot for every new account.
A sizeable chunk of the money won’t be reinvested in GW2 but used to please shareholders and other corporate bs, and that’s the point where a business practice is the result of nothing but greed. They already make a lot of money with the game and they certainly would have with a better HoT deal, but it’s never enough for them, they want more and forcing players to buy a character slot for the revenant is a method to accomplish this.
It’s interesting you bring up the “corporate greed” card as a argument. A bit hypocritical don’t you think? You are arguing that as a vet you deserve something from Anet for your patronage, in the same shareholders believe they deserve a rate of return from their investment. From what I’ve seen Anet/NCsoft is hardly what I would call “greedy” in their practice, only trying to balance. What did you expect from this style of model?
If you want EA could always swoop in and save the day right?
I never wrote that I deserve anything for anything from ArenaNet, that’s something you made up. I am a customer and if they want to charge me for something, I’ll check first whether the offer is any good or not. In the case of HoT, it’s not.
What I actually wanted to show with my post is that giving out character slots would not be an act of generosity and it also was not an act of generosity from the companies who did this in the past or will in the future. Satisfied customers are the best marketing you can possibly have as a company, causing an uproar like this because you didn’t want to give the player base something that costs you basically nothing is usually not a very clever business decision: it makes a quick buck because of fanboys, but it hurts in the long run.
$60 to make a Revenant without deleting a character? No thanks. Not with the very small amount of new content we’ve seen. Sorry, $60 is overpriced.
‘Elite’ in all 9 professions. I take mediocrity seriously!
$60 to make a Revenant without deleting a character? No thanks. Not with the very small amount of new content we’ve seen. Sorry, $60 is overpriced.
Would you have paid $90 for the original GW2 at release?
Your examples are rendered moot by the fact that you can create an awful lot of characters in one server in WoW, and switch to another server to create others whenever you want. It isn’t the case in GW2, and the previous expansion/campaigns released by Arena Net provided two new classes and two new slots (when you installed one of them, I don’t think you got 4 slots in total).
$60 to make a Revenant without deleting a character? No thanks. Not with the very small amount of new content we’ve seen. Sorry, $60 is overpriced.
Would you have paid $90 for the original GW2 at release?
Actually, no… but I would gladly pay $90 right now for HoT with 5 fresh slots to mess around with, even though HoT is much smaller than the base game.
‘Elite’ in all 9 professions. I take mediocrity seriously!
Hi there,
i read some many threads about that pre-purchase and many get upset. Most of them for the so called “missing” Slot for the Revenant Class.
Most of them argue that in other games, if they add a Class with an Expansion they also offer an Character slot….. is that so?
lets see.
WoW – WotLK : added the Death Knight Class, but no Character Slot!
WoW – MoP: added Monk, in its 4th! expansion they created one extra slot. and its a P2P MMO!
LotRO: added 3 Classes (Rune-Keeper, Warden, Beorning), No character slots get added to you, but you can buy more (like in GW2)
EverQuest: Added 2 Classes, no SlotsGuildWars: Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall are not Expansions! They are stand alone games. If you add any of them, even the first one without any new classes it adds 2 slots to your game, yet the only true expanions EotN does not add any Slots.
So where are all those Expansions that add slots for new classes? Surly not in F2P games which are so nice and allow you only 2 slots at base if you don’t subscribe or buying more on the store.
And new players don’t get 5 new slots, they get the same 5 slots every veteran has. they may be able to play the revenant instantly, yet they have to leave 4of the core classes untouched if they don’t buy more slots, like the veteran has to to access all classes at once.
Just two points:
1. It’s false LOTRO didn’t give extra slots when they released Runekeeper and Warden. Moria’s pack gave two spots already for a while. And don’t dare to refuse it, ’cos I already bought this pack when it released.
2. Good, you tell “New class doesn’t mean extra slot”. Perfect. Now I ask: “So, why Anet is giving a character slot in Ultimate and Deluxe?!”. Think on it yourself.
Its really just that simple.
Since OP mentioned F2P games i’d just like to bring up a couple of the ones i know of that added a slot to the account of active players when a new class was made available, like Tera and Maplestory, the business model is wildly different but since you brought it up that F2P games don’t add new slots.
Also you seem to miss the point on why a new character slot is important in this situation, even tho we were given only 5 slots for 8 classes with the initial game purchase, we could still try out every single class, before deciding which class to invest your time into, via heart of the mists, the same however is not true for the revenant If you have already used all 5 slots given to you from the base game, and well why wouldn’t you have used them? we had 8 different classes to pick and before this expac was announced we had no concrete info or even a hint that a new class would be made available and that we would need one of the slots given to us when we first bought the game to be able to even try it out and see if we actually want to play it or not.
Samhaiim ~ Thief
$60 to make a Revenant without deleting a character? No thanks. Not with the very small amount of new content we’ve seen. Sorry, $60 is overpriced.
Would you have paid $90 for the original GW2 at release?
Under the assumption that you’re using the “but only 5 char slots at launch!” argument:
Five character slots is more than enough to try out your favourite professions, which, in the majority of the cases, is merely 1-3 per player.
Zero character slots makes it impossible to try out the revenant, especially if it has potential to end up being one of your favourites.
$60 to make a Revenant without deleting a character? No thanks. Not with the very small amount of new content we’ve seen. Sorry, $60 is overpriced.
Would you have paid $90 for the original GW2 at release?
Under the assumption that you’re using the “but only 5 char slots at launch!” argument:
Five character slots is more than enough to try out your favourite professions, which, in the majority of the cases, is merely 1-3 per player.
Zero character slots makes it impossible to try out the revenant, especially if it has potential to end up being one of your favourites.
I have 15 characters, 2 of each profession + an extra warrior. I’m just not willing to pay $60 for character #16. I am, however, just stupid enough to pay $50 for it.
‘Elite’ in all 9 professions. I take mediocrity seriously!
$60 to make a Revenant without deleting a character? No thanks. Not with the very small amount of new content we’ve seen. Sorry, $60 is overpriced.
Would you have paid $90 for the original GW2 at release?
Under the assumption that you’re using the “but only 5 char slots at launch!” argument:
Five character slots is more than enough to try out your favourite professions, which, in the majority of the cases, is merely 1-3 per player.
Zero character slots makes it impossible to try out the revenant, especially if it has potential to end up being one of your favourites.
Your assumption was correct, however I decided not to follow up on it.