Guild Wars 2

“3 legendary weapons will ship with expansion, rest will come later?”
Stop delaying the content, release it or don’t promise things that you can’t make, we’ve waited 14 days already, Tyrian Gods know how much longer we will have to wait for other legendarys to be released, 3 months, 6? 1 year?.

By now you should have holidays, getting some rest to be fresh and ready for new planing of next GW2 expansion, and not working on things that should be shipped with HoT. Will that bring another 3 year delay before we get new content?

First I’d like to see the 3 promised. Howerver I cannot find Vol.1. at the vendor for neither of the new ones.

Some players told me in game, that I’d need Legendary mastery lvl 4 to be able to start making the first form of the new precursors. Say what? Is this true?

Scholar of Secrets: “Get a head start on the upcoming Heart of Thorns legendary weapons.”

Considering this 3 shouldn’t be “upcoming” but in game already, I cannot seem to understand the need of this as lvl 4th mastery… uh, but okay, let’s say this is the case. So after countless hours of grinding xp for maxing out the legendary mastery tracks, I will only be able to see the first requirements for the first series of prec. crafting. Are you kidding me?! Why can’t they be crafted/aquired on similar terms as the 1st series of legendaries???

They just said its coming mid november with raids and legendary armor.

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one

“Quests”? Which “quests”? “Get 1.000 pieces of lumber” is a quest now?

And really, if ArenaNet knew how much it would take, why did they promise that three new legendary weapons would come with HoT? They were very clear: 3 new skins would be added with HoT, and the rest would be released later. Now they have changed their speech to “0 new skins with HoT” and “everything will be released later”, which basically scraps their previous goals.

And the last time they told us we would get new legendary skins “soon” was 2 years ago. Are you ready for something similar again?

Have you played MMO’s before? Anything nearly as grand as a legendary weapon is in this game has a ridiculous quest tied to it or a raid encounter. Stop wanting to be spoon fed. They also made it clear BEFORE the expansion released that the 3 legendaries were delayed until shortly after launch.

Ranlares.2513:

Have you played MMO’s before? Anything nearly as grand as a legendary weapon is in this game has a ridiculous quest tied to it or a raid encounter.

Exactly, meanwhile all GW2 has is a mindless, snoring grind.

I wish we had a “ridiculous quest” or a “raid encounter” instead of the massive grind cesspool it is today.

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

Now they just have to stop making shards of glory tradeable and make certain skins gated behind rank (like bringing back Stalwart’s and making it tradeable with shards of glory) in addition to a shard cost. Maybe the Stalwart helm and shoulders could be an ingredient in a legendary weapon or armor?

Yeah I expected to be able to work on astralaria right away and was disappointed when I realized the first book wasn’t in game yet. And id also like some clarification from a dev as to what mastery level I need u locked to start working on astralaria.

Hawken son of Z.1367:

Yeah I expected to be able to work on astralaria right away and was disappointed when I realized the first book wasn’t in game yet. And id also like some clarification from a dev as to what mastery level I need u locked to start working on astralaria.

If you read the mastery tiers its pretty obivous

Some players told me in game, that I’d need Legendary mastery lvl 4 to be able to start making the first form of the new precursors. Say what? Is this true?

Yes. It is true.

Does this even make sense? A legendary is a legendary is a legendary, is it not? Why will some legendaries take insane amounts of man hours just to unlock the collections to start the legendary? Maybe I’m totally missing the point here. But if there’s going to be like 2 more mastery lines to unlock to complete one of the new legendarys , holy crap! Lol

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

Don’t make excuses for them. Accepting mediocrity and undelivered promises is absurd.

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

I love how “when it’s ready” didn’t apply to Heart of Thorns. The expansion is undeniably unfinished, but ArenaNet released – and charged an industry-high $50 for – it anyway.

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

Sorry bro, i expect the list that was promised, must be released on the day of release date and not 1 month later:

That’s like me releasing app, lets say calculator. I promise our app will include functions on release:

• Sub
• divide
• add
• multiply

Bur what you actually release with your app is:

• sub
• add

This, is, not, acceptable!

And if our company would do that, and dare to not deliver, we would pay drastic penalty…

14 daysss post release you still work on dividing, while you should be fixing bugs and planing for next expansion. Just so sloppy and unacceptable to support such behaviour.

Firelysm.4967:

“3 legendary weapons will ship with expansion, rest will come later?”
Stop delaying the content, release it or don’t promise things that you can’t make, we’ve waited 14 days already, Tyrian Gods know how much longer we will have to wait for other legendarys to be released, 3 months, 6? 1 year?.

By now you should have holidays, getting some rest to be fresh and ready for new planing of next GW2 expansion, and not working on things that should be shipped with HoT. Will that bring another 3 year delay before we get new content?

“Collections for the existing legendary weapons will be available on launch day, while the first three new legendaries will become available shortly after launch, alongside raids.”

I suppose its not easy to actaully read the post announcing the new weapons.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/hot-new-legendary-weapons/

Also the post said it takes about a month for each new weapon to get added and get collections for it. So expect new to arrive every month or two.

Firelysm.4967:

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

Sorry bro, i expect the list that was promised, must be released on the day of release date and not 1 month later:

That’s like me releasing app, lets say calculator. I promise our app will include functions on release:

• Sub
• divide
• add
• multiply

Bur what you actually release with your app is:

• sub
• add

This, is, not, acceptable!

And if our company would do that, and dare to not deliver, we would pay drastic penalty…

14 daysss post release you still work on dividing, while you should be fixing bugs and planing for next expansion. Just so sloppy and unacceptable to support such behaviour.

They never said on release

Don’t you guys have other things to do? It said shortly after release. I mean surely you have other things to do besides playing GW2.

Test.8734:

Ranlares.2513:

Have you played MMO’s before? Anything nearly as grand as a legendary weapon is in this game has a ridiculous quest tied to it or a raid encounter.

Exactly, meanwhile all GW2 has is a mindless, snoring grind.

I wish we had a “ridiculous quest” or a “raid encounter” instead of the massive grind cesspool it is today.

Man you would have hated FFXIV’s Relic weapon quest.

TGI FRIDAY.6275:

Man you would have hated FFXIV’s Relic weapon quest.

Light farming /puke
That was a hell of a grind.

Firelysm.4967:

“3 legendary weapons will ship with expansion, rest will come later?”
Stop delaying the content, release it or don’t promise things that you can’t make, we’ve waited 14 days already, Tyrian Gods know how much longer we will have to wait for other legendarys to be released, 3 months, 6? 1 year?.

By now you should have holidays, getting some rest to be fresh and ready for new planing of next GW2 expansion, and not working on things that should be shipped with HoT. Will that bring another 3 year delay before we get new content?

Because it took 14 days you’re thinking it will take up to a year for new stuff? That escalated quickly!

The new legendaries and the first raid wing (per the blog) go live Tuesday (11/17).

In case you missed the memo:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/enter-spirit-vale-on-november-17/

Best news – we get more expansion content weeks after it actually launched! Hurray!

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

The Legendary system was so poor and badly implemented at launch that it’s almost insulting to see it addressed so late in the game’s life.
I mean – we’ve had promises about it being changed and improved ever since year 1 – and up until now it’s been only promises.

Harper.4173:

Best news – we get more expansion content weeks after it actually launched! Hurray!

Because this totally hasn’t happened before, right?

I mean, WoW launched Burning Crusade on January 16, 2007. And guess what? The Black Temple was added May 22nd, 2007.

Or releasing WotLK on November 13, 2008, then releasing the Ulduar raid on April 14, 2009, followed by adding Koralon on August 4, 2009, then adding Onyxia on September 22, 2009. Or adding raid wings for Icecrown Citadel (The Lich King encounter itself, the titular expansion antagonist) over the course of January, 2010.

Blizzard, a company with ~4,700 employees as of 2012 versus ArenaNet with >300 in 2013. Who’da thunk it?

kirima san.3760:

“Collections for the existing legendary weapons will be available on launch day, while the first three new legendaries will become available shortly after launch, alongside raids.”

I suppose its not easy to actaully read the post announcing the new weapons.

True enough. But there is also this.

‘’ On top of this, you’ll also see new legendary weapons and new types of legendary gear in 2013’’

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/looking-ahead-guild-wars-2-in-2013/

Can’t really blame people for getting tired of that kitten. We were suppose to get that 2 years ago and we get only 3/16. I know that in the recent month they were correct. But over the last three years, a lot of broken promises.

In that post, there is several other beautiful gems like

- We’ll begin regularly adding new skills and traits to the game for each profession to expand your characters and builds! (not the same definition as me of regularly)

- In order to make playing all of our unique dungeons more rewarding, we’ll give you a bonus gold reward for each dungeon path you complete each day. (Oh wait, that’s right)

- We’ll expand all crafting professions to allow them to reach a new milestone: 500 points! (Really All??)

When talking about PvP, they said this ‘’We’ll also expand the competitive options for game play: providing a queue and leaderboards for solo rated play separate from team rated play, adding new map types,…’’

Thaddeus.4891:

kirima san.3760:

“Collections for the existing legendary weapons will be available on launch day, while the first three new legendaries will become available shortly after launch, alongside raids.”

I suppose its not easy to actaully read the post announcing the new weapons.

True enough. But there is also this.

‘’ On top of this, you’ll also see new legendary weapons and new types of legendary gear in 2013’’

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/looking-ahead-guild-wars-2-in-2013/

And in the very same goddess forsaken article:

As always, the content above is subject to change as we test and iterate on these systems.

Give it up already. kitten happens.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Give it up already. kitten happens.

True. Completly true. But 2 years and we get only 3 new legendary? My point is that this, and fractal reset/leaderboard were a mess from Anet. I do mistake at my job, but mistake that take 2 years to solve? Not that often.

The expansion was 50 dollar. For that amount of money and the 2 years of wait, there should be a complete new set of legendary weapons at HoT Launch or near launch. Now we gonna have them 3 each 1 or 2 months? At best we get all new 16 weapons in 6 months. We are getting closer and closer to a 3 years delay.

I’d rather have delayed content than no content at all, and I’d rather have delayed content than more bugged and unplayable content. I’m glad Anet delayed them (they stated as much) to help ensure that their release is smoother. A company as small as Anet does not have the resources to focus on too many things at once and I’ve seen it posted on the forums a thousand times “Anet overextended itself, they should have released _ things one at a time and gotten rid of the bugs instead of all at once.”

Honestly, you people can’t be pleased no matter what and Anet has learned the lesson that so many other developers do: you can’t please everyone so you should do what makes sense to you and ignore most of the complaints

Thaddeus.4891:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Give it up already. kitten happens.

True. Completly true. But 2 years and we get only 3 new legendary? My point is that this, and fractal reset/leaderboard were a mess from Anet. I do mistake at my job, but mistake that take 2 years to solve? Not that often.

The expansion was 50 dollar. For that amount of money and the 2 years of wait, there should be a complete new set of legendary weapons at HoT Launch or near launch. Now we gonna have them 3 each 1 or 2 months? At best we get all new 16 weapons in 6 months. We are getting closer and closer to a 3 years delay.

I’ll agree the whole fractal fiasco was a mess (still is). Won’t argue that.

I’ll also agree that I would have thought we’d have a whole new set too, but I guess that would depend on if they had the man power for it. Which, we don’t know. We don’t know how much effort the rest of the stuff that made it into HoT took, and how much is simmering on the back burner, waiting to be added. There are far too many unknowns to make any type of educated conclusions, either positive or negative. Although, most people automatically jump to the negative it seems.

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

And how long has Anet spent working on the expansion? The three new legendaries were a selling point for the expansion. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_2:_Heart_of_Thorns#Features

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

A system that they said would be done by EOY 2013?

So, worked on for going on three years, two years over deadline?

Sounds like a public works program in California to me.

Ranlares.2513:

I love how people don’t realize how much work it was redoing the entire legendary system and not only writing the quests for each new one, going back and writing ones for all of the existing ones. Get your head out of your doggy and think bud.

Why are we supposed to care how much work it was? We’re consumers who purchased a product. A product that promised certain things and shipped without them.

How much work that went into build those specific things is irrelevant. I don’t care how much work it takes them and you shouldn’t either.

As a WvW player with crappy rewards for 3 years and not being able to earn gold (lower tiers)… The whole reason I was excited was because I could / cannot afford a precursor. However, after seeing the first exotic just for bifrost collection 1 will cost me around 550g, I have already given up. Thanks ANet for making RNG and Loot system and new Legendary system all fight against the players….

Also while I am on the subject, why is it some accounts get 3 ascended chests in 1 night while others (like myself) never have gotten 1. I have played since headstart and the lack of luck is annoying and really frustrating. I’d quit, but there is literally no other game out there that compares at the moment. Please do something about your RNG favoring a few accounts and not being Random… GW2 uses a Pseudorandom number generator, therefore the numbers will ALWAYS repeat, because no program can truly be random.

Edit: This means accounts with bad luck will always have bad luck, while those who land on the high end of the RNG spectrum will always have good luck.

i agree with this poster, god d,a%mnt give us the legendaries!~

The whole points is not giving some big content with a long/short delay.

The point is promising it.

If you dont promise something, everybody is cool. But if you promise and fail then this topic starts.

Yes legendary design is big thing, yes raids are big thing etc..It is not the point.

Stuff legendaries, would rather the bugs were fixed first.