Guild Wars 2

Ok so i said a lot of negative things these last 2 months, regarding the grinding, the liquid rewards being nerfed, the dungeons being killed blablabla. Forcing us to go to maguma and raids blablaba.

Well congratulation ! Now we have i finished game !
Sure you might’ve lost a couple of players here and there, but the important thing is now, i can do my fractals, earn money, earn rewards, convert that money to gems have fun with my new skins.
Now i am not forced to do AB over and over again to gain gold.

Thank you anet, for finally giving us a finished game.
Sure you killed dungeons. Guess we can’t enjoy these anymore (because you don’t want us to), guess these are for lvling up (if you find people on the lfg), and tokens (if you are lucky enough to find people on the lfg).
But Hell Fractals are back baby !

(Oh and that topic wasn’t sarcastic, i am trully happy. HELL i’meven gonna convert my 25 gold earned during a reasonable amount of time, to get some transmutation charges)

I’m actually not happy about some of the fractal changes. Sure, the increased gold yield is nice. But there’s also the following:

First they offer the opportunity to buy fractal weapon boxes for 20 pristines. So I buy fractal weapon boxes. Now I have the fractal skins, and they start dropping random fractal weapons almost daily for me. Instead of the Stabilizing Matrices that I need lots and lots of.

When you’re cursing your luck for getting a fractal skin instead of a measly single Stabilizing Matrix, it’s obvious that something is not right. These skins should drop in addition to the regular reward, not instead of it, because they’re drops of limited appeal. Even if you enjoy occasionally getting one of these skins as a drop, that elation will quickly pass when you keep getting skins you’ve already unlocked, again and again. Especially when you need hundreds of the drop they replace.

Manasa Devi.7958:

I’m actually not happy about some of the fractal changes. Sure, the increased gold yield is nice. But there’s also the following:

First they offer the opportunity to buy fractal weapon boxes for 20 pristines. So I buy fractal weapon boxes. Now I have the fractal skins, and they start dropping random fractal weapons almost daily for me. Instead of the Stabilizing Matrices that I need lots and lots of.

When you’re cursing your luck for getting a fractal skin instead of a measly single Stabilizing Matrix, it’s obvious that something is not right. These skins should drop in addition to the regular reward, not instead of it, because they’re drops of limited appeal. Even if you enjoy occasionally getting one of these skins as a drop, that elation will quickly pass when you keep getting skins you’ve already unlocked, again and again. Especially when you need hundreds of the drop they replace.

You mean the stabilizing matrices that sell for like 36 silver on the trading post? They’re not really that hard to get.

Doesn’t matter how much they cost. I never buy anything I can get by playing. It’s just

incredibly stupid

that a reward that’s supposed to be special, actually is the last thing you’d want to see and you’d be happier with a single copper.

Incredibly stupid

and not thought through at all, because if the persons who thought of that would have any empathy for the player experience, they’d realize that it’s really

incredibly stupid

You may think it’s stupid but that’s how GW2 is designed, so how stupid it may seem to you is irrelevant. Actually, it makes tons of sense for this game to implement a system where I can buy mats I need because of how you get rewarded in it. The cost of these items, or any other, is of primary importance to the way GW2 works. Anet has changed things like recipes because of it.

So while you sing your mantra of how stupid it is because it’s not what you think it should be, be aware that GW2 works this way for very fundamental reasons. It’s like this by design, intended to work this way and will continue to do so and influence the way the game is designed until the servers shut down.

I don’t see a problem with a system where you get something you don’t need but have a way to convert those items into things you do while benefiting other players willing to sell them at the same time. I don’t see any stupidity in that.

Yes, GW works this way. Obviously. I wouldn’t be complaining about it otherwise, duh.

And it’s not just my opinion that it’s

incredibly stupid

It’s an objective fact.

Getting something with no value or purpose as a “special” drop, something you really only desire to destroy to stop it from cluttering up your inventory, there’s no situation where that’s not incredibly stupid. Getting nothing at all would actually be better, it would save us the trouble of having to destroy this “reward”.

Obtena.7952:

I don’t see a problem with a system where you get something you don’t need but have a way to convert those items into things you do while benefiting other players willing to sell them at the same time. I don’t see any stupidity in that.

No, there wouldn’t be anything stupid about such a system at all. But that’s not what I’m talking about, is it?

Rubbish rewards and incredible stupidity.

And when asked point blank to provide CONTEXT the thread fails yet again.

Manasa Devi.7958:

I’m actually not happy about some of the fractal changes. Sure, the increased gold yield is nice. But there’s also the following:

First they offer the opportunity to buy fractal weapon boxes for 20 pristines. So I buy fractal weapon boxes. Now I have the fractal skins, and they start dropping random fractal weapons almost daily for me. Instead of the Stabilizing Matrices that I need lots and lots of.

When you’re cursing your luck for getting a fractal skin instead of a measly single Stabilizing Matrix, it’s obvious that something is not right. These skins should drop in addition to the regular reward, not instead of it, because they’re drops of limited appeal. Even if you enjoy occasionally getting one of these skins as a drop, that elation will quickly pass when you keep getting skins you’ve already unlocked, again and again. Especially when you need hundreds of the drop they replace.

I do not agree with you. First of all these boxes are available when you complete lvl 50 fractals. Which means that you already are a high lvl player. At this point Rewarding you with a fractal weapon seems fair.
Then stabilizating matrice can be bought everywhere, TP, daylis…

Finally are you seriously crying about having awesome rewards?
That is really weird my friend.

I am actually really thankfull towards arena for finally giving us back good rewards in 5 man group content. It took some time, but in the long term we will all forget the 2 first months

Nike.2631:

And when asked point blank to provide CONTEXT the thread fails yet again.

I think they’re talking about the revamp to fractals rewards that we got in the patch. I haven’t done any fractals since then so I don’t know first hand if fractal weapon skins really are dropping, or what level fractal you need to do to have a good shot at one.

YaYa.5879:

Manasa Devi.7958:

I’m actually not happy about some of the fractal changes. Sure, the increased gold yield is nice. But there’s also the following:

First they offer the opportunity to buy fractal weapon boxes for 20 pristines. So I buy fractal weapon boxes. Now I have the fractal skins, and they start dropping random fractal weapons almost daily for me. Instead of the Stabilizing Matrices that I need lots and lots of.

When you’re cursing your luck for getting a fractal skin instead of a measly single Stabilizing Matrix, it’s obvious that something is not right. These skins should drop in addition to the regular reward, not instead of it, because they’re drops of limited appeal. Even if you enjoy occasionally getting one of these skins as a drop, that elation will quickly pass when you keep getting skins you’ve already unlocked, again and again. Especially when you need hundreds of the drop they replace.

I do not agree with you. First of all these boxes are available when you complete lvl 50 fractals. Which means that you already are a high lvl player. At this point Rewarding you with a fractal weapon seems fair.
Then stabilizating matrice can be bought everywhere, TP, daylis…

Finally are you seriously crying about having awesome rewards?
That is really weird my friend.

I am actually really thankfull towards arena for finally giving us back good rewards in 5 man group content. It took some time, but in the long term we will all forget the 2 first months

If you actually read and comprehend Manasa’s post the thing is, they already have all the fractal skins unlocked (or at least all the ones they wanted anyway), so further fractal skin drops do literally nothing for them, it’s a waste of a reward slot. I’m sorry but Manasa’s 100% right random drops should never be account bound or gods forbid soul-bound, this just leads to players being stuck with items they can do nothing with.

We know Anet is responsive to these kinds of things; we’ve seen them change these types of things. I see no reason to expect this to persist. Seems like raising blood pressure is a new hobby with some gamers. Find a thing, sensationalize it, blow a temple.

Obtena.7952:

We know Anet is responsive to these kinds of things; we’ve seen them change these types of things. I see no reason to expect this to persist. Seems like raising blood pressure is a new hobby with some gamers. Find a thing, sensationalize it, blow a temple.

What you have to remember is that gamers are no different than any other hobbyists. Among them are some very very emotionally invested people.

Imagine if they re-released Breaking Bad with an alternate plot and story and called it Breaking Bad. We come to expect change playing MMOs, but it doesn’t necessarily make the change easier and sometimes we hate it.

Don’t ascended weapons vendor for 1g? (Honest question, as I don’t know if fractal weapons can be vendored).

They don’t vendor, they can’t be salvaged or TPed. I could in fact use those things to apply that specific skin to a weapon without paying a transformation charge, but I already started using the ones I like at the time I got them for the first time. I’m not going to start reserving space for them on the off chance I might save a transformation charge in the far future.

I’m not too bothered about it, I just think it’s incredibly stupid. I had 3 of these “rewards” in the not-even-a-week since the patch, at the time I started on a path requiring a lot of Stabilizing Matrices, and the skins drop instead of those. It feels very unrewarding.

My first post in this thread was reasonably stating my issue. Then someone comes in and picks at one little detail (the price of a Stabilizing Matrix), totally ignoring the grander issue. At that point I felt I should perhaps emphasize that issue so there could be no misunderstandings.

Astraea.6075:

Don’t ascended weapons vendor for 1g? (Honest question, as I don’t know if fractal weapons can be vendored).

They do.

I have no idea what manasa is doing wrong but they are doing a lot of it wrong.

Stabilizing matrices are a dime a dozen. They need to start salvaging the horrible rings/doing the daily sets.

If you can’t bother to read what I write, don’t comment.

Fractal weapon skins can’t be salvaged, sold, or TPed.

I get them from doing the fractal dailies.

They drop instead of the things you tell me to salvage.

They are supposed to be some kind of special prize. They aren’t. They’re worthless. They’re a random chance for me to get no reward to speak of at all from a fractal box.

They say people have a better chance to be struck by lightning than to win the lottery.

If fractal daily chests are a lottery, getting a fractal weapon skin isn’t the equivalent of winning the lottery. They’re the lightning.

Thatkitten Rat.1236:

YaYa.5879:

Manasa Devi.7958:

I’m actually not happy about some of the fractal changes. Sure, the increased gold yield is nice. But there’s also the following:

First they offer the opportunity to buy fractal weapon boxes for 20 pristines. So I buy fractal weapon boxes. Now I have the fractal skins, and they start dropping random fractal weapons almost daily for me. Instead of the Stabilizing Matrices that I need lots and lots of.

When you’re cursing your luck for getting a fractal skin instead of a measly single Stabilizing Matrix, it’s obvious that something is not right. These skins should drop in addition to the regular reward, not instead of it, because they’re drops of limited appeal. Even if you enjoy occasionally getting one of these skins as a drop, that elation will quickly pass when you keep getting skins you’ve already unlocked, again and again. Especially when you need hundreds of the drop they replace.

I do not agree with you. First of all these boxes are available when you complete lvl 50 fractals. Which means that you already are a high lvl player. At this point Rewarding you with a fractal weapon seems fair.
Then stabilizating matrice can be bought everywhere, TP, daylis…

Finally are you seriously crying about having awesome rewards?
That is really weird my friend.

I am actually really thankfull towards arena for finally giving us back good rewards in 5 man group content. It took some time, but in the long term we will all forget the 2 first months

If you actually read and comprehend Manasa’s post the thing is, they already have all the fractal skins unlocked (or at least all the ones they wanted anyway), so further fractal skin drops do literally nothing for them, it’s a waste of a reward slot. I’m sorry but Manasa’s 100% right random drops should never be account bound or gods forbid soul-bound, this just leads to players being stuck with items they can do nothing with.

but that’s not true, since you need said item for the recipe to make a golden fractal skin…

Manasa Devi.7958:

And it’s not just my opinion that it’s

incredibly stupid

It’s an objective fact.

AHAHAHAHAHA. XD

You’re a funny one and you probably don’t even know it. I mean, sure the previous person saying that your opinion on something about the game is completely irrelevant was pretty funny too (and also untrue), but then you topped that off by claiming your opinion is an objective fact.

Not that I don’t agree with you there, it’s not very balanced to sell something for 20 pristine FRs that drops so often in the first place. Though drops are random, and the merchant obviously isn’t, I doubt that warrants the amount of pristine relics needed.

It is an objective fact that it’s incredibly stupid to give someone something totally useless and hold back the regular useful drop and call it a special reward.

There’s this knee-jerk response to call everything an “opinion”, as if some things people say on forums can absolutely never be objective facts. You fell into that. This instance of someone posting something on a forum is actually an objective fact.

If you want a real-world analogy, this is like someone born into a American nationality being awarded a green card instead of wages at work some weeks.

And for the record, they didn’t drop often before the patch. Never at all for me in fact, which is why I bought them with pristine relics. They only started dropping for me, at an alarming rate, after the december 15 patch that was supposed to improve rewards. I don’t consider this an improvement.

Like I said before, these things should drop in addition to the regular time-gated drop, not instead of it. At the very least they should drop a weapon box instead of a random weapon skin, so people that don’t have all of them unlocked will enjoy the drop instead of having an ever-increasing chance that the next drop will be a useless disappointment, as their collections grows.

The bottom line remains that the missing ingredient can be bought relatively inexpensively. If someone refuses to buy it, that’s their own lookout. There’s an old expression about cutting off your nose to spite your fact that seems to apply here.

Thatkitten Rat.1236:

YaYa.5879:

Manasa Devi.7958:

I’m actually not happy about some of the fractal changes. Sure, the increased gold yield is nice. But there’s also the following:

First they offer the opportunity to buy fractal weapon boxes for 20 pristines. So I buy fractal weapon boxes. Now I have the fractal skins, and they start dropping random fractal weapons almost daily for me. Instead of the Stabilizing Matrices that I need lots and lots of.

When you’re cursing your luck for getting a fractal skin instead of a measly single Stabilizing Matrix, it’s obvious that something is not right. These skins should drop in addition to the regular reward, not instead of it, because they’re drops of limited appeal. Even if you enjoy occasionally getting one of these skins as a drop, that elation will quickly pass when you keep getting skins you’ve already unlocked, again and again. Especially when you need hundreds of the drop they replace.

I do not agree with you. First of all these boxes are available when you complete lvl 50 fractals. Which means that you already are a high lvl player. At this point Rewarding you with a fractal weapon seems fair.
Then stabilizating matrice can be bought everywhere, TP, daylis…

Finally are you seriously crying about having awesome rewards?
That is really weird my friend.

I am actually really thankfull towards arena for finally giving us back good rewards in 5 man group content. It took some time, but in the long term we will all forget the 2 first months

If you actually read and comprehend Manasa’s post the thing is, they already have all the fractal skins unlocked (or at least all the ones they wanted anyway), so further fractal skin drops do literally nothing for them, it’s a waste of a reward slot. I’m sorry but Manasa’s 100% right random drops should never be account bound or gods forbid soul-bound, this just leads to players being stuck with items they can do nothing with.

uhh, hes complaining that he got something he was willing to pay 20 pristine relics for. His complaint has slight merit, but its no where near the big deal he is making it out to be.
stabilizing matrices are most easily obtained by salvaging ascended items. A random drop is a random drop. Being mad because you got a random drop you did not want is pointless. He literally believes getting nothing is better for EVERYONE just because he doesnt need/want the items.

as for making item tradeable, im sorry, but thats not worthwhile. The only thing that would do is reduce the value of the items in question, or make them balance its aquisition around the very high grind economic designs, instead of personal game design based designed.

If he doesnt like the item, throw it away. Other people do like getting fractal weapons and unlocking collections. Just because he has them all, doesnt mean everyone else should get the equivalent of half of an ascended ring.

Vayne.8563:

The bottom line remains that the missing ingredient can be bought relatively inexpensively. If someone refuses to buy it, that’s their own lookout. There’s an old expression about cutting off your nose to spite your fact that seems to apply here.

its not just that it can be bought, its that it can be obtained via fractals. He doesnt have to buy anything, he can just salvage his extra rings/ascended boxes he got from fractals. Hes comparing one rare weapon skin to 1 piece of currency that is incredibly easy to obtain just buy playing the game.

Thatkitten Rat.1236:

YaYa.5879:

Manasa Devi.7958:

I’m actually not happy about some of the fractal changes. Sure, the increased gold yield is nice. But there’s also the following:

First they offer the opportunity to buy fractal weapon boxes for 20 pristines. So I buy fractal weapon boxes. Now I have the fractal skins, and they start dropping random fractal weapons almost daily for me. Instead of the Stabilizing Matrices that I need lots and lots of.

When you’re cursing your luck for getting a fractal skin instead of a measly single Stabilizing Matrix, it’s obvious that something is not right. These skins should drop in addition to the regular reward, not instead of it, because they’re drops of limited appeal. Even if you enjoy occasionally getting one of these skins as a drop, that elation will quickly pass when you keep getting skins you’ve already unlocked, again and again. Especially when you need hundreds of the drop they replace.

I do not agree with you. First of all these boxes are available when you complete lvl 50 fractals. Which means that you already are a high lvl player. At this point Rewarding you with a fractal weapon seems fair.
Then stabilizating matrice can be bought everywhere, TP, daylis…

Finally are you seriously crying about having awesome rewards?
That is really weird my friend.

I am actually really thankfull towards arena for finally giving us back good rewards in 5 man group content. It took some time, but in the long term we will all forget the 2 first months

If you actually read and comprehend Manasa’s post the thing is, they already have all the fractal skins unlocked (or at least all the ones they wanted anyway), so further fractal skin drops do literally nothing for them, it’s a waste of a reward slot. I’m sorry but Manasa’s 100% right random drops should never be account bound or gods forbid soul-bound, this just leads to players being stuck with items they can do nothing with.

Oh my bad

phys.7689:

its not just that it can be bought, its that it can be obtained via fractals. He doesnt have to buy anything, he can just salvage his extra rings/ascended boxes he got from fractals.

Those are the things I’m not getting when I get another one of those useless skins. 3 in 5 days so far.

May i say that gaining a stabilizing matrice from anything else than a dayli chest is not profitable.
You need a gold to buy 1 salvage kit, and you get 2-3 matrice (6 if the ring is infused), or you can get them by paying 25 silver. Using them hardly brings you tht much.
Wich means that if you are paying for stabilizing matrice or key instead of wining them in fractals, you don’t make much

You may say that. Infused rings can be quite profitable though if you’re lucky. I’ve had as many as 22 matrices from them, and 20 several times.

Attuned and infused rings are a different matter altogether. They can’t be salvaged at all. I tried with a useless ring, just to see what would drop from it. I reported it as a bug weeks ago, because it’s not at all apparent that they shouldn’t be salvageable.

So basically because i have all the fractal skins and i don’t need them anymore the drop tables should be changed despite many other people not having close to all of them. Oh that’s nice of you. Apparently because something is worthless to you it’s worthless to everyone.

I have got a fractal drop ever… In several years of playing. So clearly the drop rate is too low and that’s “incredibly stupid”. The amount is kitten on display here is too kitten high.

Manasa Devi.7958:

It is an objective fact that it’s incredibly stupid to give someone something totally useless and hold back the regular useful drop and call it a special reward.

There’s this knee-jerk response to call everything an “opinion”, as if some things people say on forums can absolutely never be objective facts. You fell into that. This instance of someone posting something on a forum is actually an objective fact.

Hardly a knee jerk response. It’s a fact you can’t recognize that everything you observe is merely from your point of view. You don’t even know what is objective and what is subjective in your statement.

The fact that not everyone agrees with your statement in itself is proof enough. It means the statement is dependent per subject. Also known to be subjective. Proclaiming something like that as fact as if it counters all arguments is hilarious.

vespers.1759:

So basically because i have all the fractal skins and i don’t need them anymore the drop tables should be changed despite many other people not having close to all of them. Oh that’s nice of you. Apparently because something is worthless to you it’s worthless to everyone.

I have got a fractal drop ever… In several years of playing. So clearly the drop rate is too low and that’s “incredibly stupid”. The amount is kitten on display here is too kitten high.

Eventually they will be worthless to everyone who continues to play fractals long enough.

And well done ignoring the solution I’ve posted not once but twice, and making me out to be someone who begrudges other people happy drops : make those useless kitten things drop in addition to the regular time-gated drop, not instead of it. Everyone can be happy. I should report you for defaming my character.

FrizzFreston.5290:

Manasa Devi.7958:

It is an objective fact that it’s incredibly stupid to give someone something totally useless and hold back the regular useful drop and call it a special reward.

There’s this knee-jerk response to call everything an “opinion”, as if some things people say on forums can absolutely never be objective facts. You fell into that. This instance of someone posting something on a forum is actually an objective fact.

Hardly a knee jerk response. It’s a fact you can’t recognize that everything you observe is merely from your point of view. You don’t even know what is objective and what is subjective in your statement.

The fact that not everyone agrees with your statement in itself is proof enough. It means the statement is dependent per subject. Also known to be subjective. Proclaiming something like that as fact as if it counters all arguments is hilarious.

Find me someone who’d be happy to take something useless over something worth (apparently, I haven’t checked) 36 silver. And I mean useless. That person doesn’t get to turn around and invent a use for it. Really, irrevocably useless. Like the green card for the American citizen.

The fact that not everybody agrees with my statement proves nothing about my statement.

Manasa Devi.7958:

FrizzFreston.5290:

Manasa Devi.7958:

It is an objective fact that it’s incredibly stupid to give someone something totally useless and hold back the regular useful drop and call it a special reward.

There’s this knee-jerk response to call everything an “opinion”, as if some things people say on forums can absolutely never be objective facts. You fell into that. This instance of someone posting something on a forum is actually an objective fact.

Hardly a knee jerk response. It’s a fact you can’t recognize that everything you observe is merely from your point of view. You don’t even know what is objective and what is subjective in your statement.

The fact that not everyone agrees with your statement in itself is proof enough. It means the statement is dependent per subject. Also known to be subjective. Proclaiming something like that as fact as if it counters all arguments is hilarious.

Find me someone who’d be happy to take something useless over something worth (apparently, I haven’t checked) 36 silver. And I mean useless. That person doesn’t get to turn around and invent a use for it. Really, irrevocably useless. Like the green card for the American citizen.

The fact that not everybody agrees with my statement proves nothing about my statement.

The happiness is subjective. The occurrence to be designed specifically like that has in fact a use, and some people recognize that dropping something “useless” in a game generally has a use in and of itself. But this is too complicated for you to understand. It seems you already have all the fractal skins, but not everyone is in your situation. Hence again subjective. Your whole “fact” is based on you as subject. It is not useless in all cases.

In fact, your entire argument is based on RNG being stupid once it gives you things you can’t use. Getting nothing as a random reward is not per definition stupid.

Why wouldn’t you simply use the increased gold you get from fractals to buy the matrices. It’s the same result. There’s just an extra step in between.

Whether you get a fractal skin or a stabilizing matrix, you’re still better off than you were before the changes.

FrizzFreston.5290:

The happiness is subjective. The occurrence to be designed specifically like that has in fact a use, and some people recognize that dropping something “useless” in a game generally has a use in and of itself.

The stupidity isn’t in dropping useless items per se, but in presenting the useless item as a special drop to be celebrated.

FrizzFreston.5290:

But this is too complicated for you to understand. It seems you already have all the fractal skins, but not everyone is in your situation.

Hence my suggestion to drop the random “special” reward in addition to the regular reward, and not instead of it. But I guess that’s too complicated for you to accept as a solution that will eventually be better for everyone who regularly plays fractals. Because eventually, everyone will be looking at what popped out of the box and wonder what to do with this skin that’s already unlocked, and conclude that right-click->destroy->yes is the only good option.

FrizzFreston.5290:

Hence again subjective. Your whole “fact” is based on you as subject. It is not useless in all cases.

My “fact” is that it’s incredibly stupid to give any individual a reward that’s useless to him and pretend it’s something special. I’m not singling myself out, you’re doing that.

FrizzFreston.5290:

In fact, your entire argument is based on RNG being stupid once it gives you things you can’t use. Getting nothing as a random reward is not per definition stupid.

Sure, but getting something you need to destroy to get rid of it, that’s stupid.

And as with all stupidity, it would be so easy to fix. That’s a property of stupidity: it’s never hard to do better. Give them a merchant value, like the useless broken spoons and ascended rings pre-HoT. Or, like I suggested many time before by now, make them a drop in addition to the regular time-gated drops instead of having them replace those. Or make them salvageable. Make them dance like a monkey. I don’t care, really.

Just don’t make me destroy my loot. That’s stupid.

I’m not counting on a fix though. This kind of stupidity is ingrained in this game. (He said, looking sadly at the multiple account-bound bird minipets he got from Black Lion chests that he hasn’t destroyed yet out out of a misplaced hope that they’ll ever be useful.)

Vayne.8563:

The bottom line remains that the missing ingredient can be bought relatively inexpensively. If someone refuses to buy it, that’s their own lookout. There’s an old expression about cutting off your nose to spite your fact that seems to apply here.

OK, as typos go, that one is actually pretty funny.

As far as the “discussion” goes, one will always see both positive and negative reactions to anything ANet does. I find the OP’s mood swing with regard to the game to be interesting. Take about hate to love.

Manasa Devi.7958:

If you can’t bother to read what I write, don’t comment.

Fractal weapon skins can’t be salvaged, sold, or TPed.

I get them from doing the fractal dailies.

They drop instead of the things you tell me to salvage.

They are supposed to be some kind of special prize. They aren’t. They’re worthless. They’re a random chance for me to get no reward to speak of at all from a fractal box.

They say people have a better chance to be struck by lightning than to win the lottery.

If fractal daily chests are a lottery, getting a fractal weapon skin isn’t the equivalent of winning the lottery. They’re the lightning.

Yep i see your problem.

You’re trying to salvage fractal weapons.

Do you daily sets, you’re guaranteed them from it. Salvage any ascended ring as previously stated. Continue on with life.

It’s not rocket science

Another very helpful post. Thank you very much.

I’ve been earning 5 fractal daily chest per day since HoT launched. Those chests aren’t the solution, they’re the problem. They keep giving me excessive amounts of useless crap fractal weapon skins that I’ve already unlocked, instead of useful drops. Those useful drops aren’t “guaranteed” as you claim. That’s the crux of the problem. Quite often, I get useless rubbish instead. When those chests you highlighted in the screenshot drop you a fractal weapon skin, they don’t drop you a Stabilizing Matrix, despite the bold claim that the chest will. It’s a lie.

This isn’t even about the specific stuff I’m not getting. It’s about getting loot that I can do nothing with except “right-click -> destroy -> yes”.

Having to destroy the drops I’m supposed to consider the “special”, “better” reward options, that’s stupid. There’s really no other word for it, except ones that would get me infracted.

YaYa.5879:

Ok so i said a lot of negative things these last 2 months, regarding the grinding, the liquid rewards being nerfed, the dungeons being killed blablabla. Forcing us to go to maguma and raids blablaba.

Grinding: It part of all MMO’s, if you want something then grind it

Rewards nerfed : To combat bots and to direct the ppl in doing events

Dungeons: Fractal focused, dungeons was fun during launch when everyone was in green/yellow gear and not stacking, now one guy can solo it for you XD

Maguma: No one is forcing you to go there , you are the one pressing “M” then clicking the wp to go there

Raids: Not mandatory at all, its cheaper to create a new set of ascendant gear than to make a legendaries, and have you seen how the legendary armor looks? i have no idea and don’t want to be a lot of effort for kitten armor … just saying
Plus most ppl already have many sets of gear to begin with so………

Manasa Devi.7958:

Another very helpful post. Thank you very much.

I’ve been earning 5 fractal daily chest per day since HoT launched. Those chests aren’t the solution, they’re the problem. They keep giving me excessive amounts of useless crap fractal weapon skins that I’ve already unlocked, instead of useful drops. Those useful drops aren’t “guaranteed” as you claim. That’s the crux of the problem. Quite often, I get useless rubbish instead. When those chests you highlighted in the screenshot drop you a fractal weapon skin, they don’t drop you a Stabilizing Matrix, despite the bold claim that the chest will. It’s a lie.

This isn’t even about the specific stuff I’m not getting. It’s about getting loot that I can do nothing with except “right-click -> destroy -> yes”.

Having to destroy the drops I’m supposed to consider the “special”, “better” reward options, that’s stupid. There’s really no other word for it, except ones that would get me infracted.

It’s not a lie, you are guaranteed a matrix from said chest.

Have a nice day.