Guild Wars 2

Seriously, I feel my toon is weakly skilled for HOT and the mobs are even not that hard.

For starters, I have played games with smarter mobs with better AI.

However, these mobs are not that smart, they are just strong, high density and they gang.

Why cant you give us skills to :

pull (single attack a mob without agroing others) from distance. No the current pull that the guardian has right now.

Stun all mobs in a particular radius for couple seconds that reset their attack cicle? Let’s say a particular makes a special attack every 5 secs. I want to be able to reset it.

Agro. I want an skill that pulls agro from a player to me.

I repeat , these skills could be attached to the useless miniatures we have right now. Again just for PVE.

I hate the lack of strategy when dealing with these mobs on HOT.

Just making mobs hit harder does not make a game more interesting.

Again if some of you want to say, its all fine. You don’t have to use new skills. I’m not asking for nerfing. I’m asking “add some strategy” on world PVE.

Basically all those skills exist in some form or another. You are asking to have all 9 professions skill sets at your disposal at any time. That doesn’t really make for a better game.

There’s plenty of strategy on the map, you’re just not employing that strategy. However, in battle you’re not necessarily supposed to be fighting 1v1 either. If you could pull every single enemy without agrroing any other enemy, then HoT would be pointless. I can’t imaging going through the zone one enemy at a time.

Plenty of guardians do perfectly well in HoT so the question becomes what are they doing that you’re not?

thing i like to do with guardian before i got elites was movement along with rotating the shouts i carried kept me alive but now with a few elites i jump in and trap and watch them drop quick. i love the bow using ranged attacks but when i want to ouput a bit more damage i move to another weapon set. most hot enemies give you a warning when they are going to hit you hard just moving right when you see that warning saves on all classes. hot changed my style of playing instead of standing there(regular gw2) i move often. movement and aoe timings on raptors or annoying monsters means survival. i think since i learned to play better and i still solo stuff including veterans minus a few of them which are hero points. did a duo with an ele the other day and we both knew our stuff we downed everything in our path within a second or two. the ele say how i was playing and used my stuff to their advantage and i used the eles stuff to my advantage

I’ve played HoT with ever class and didn’t run into any issues. Just examine where you’re having issues in HoT and how to better utilize your class to overcome them.

Vayne.8563:

There’s plenty of strategy on the map, you’re just not employing that strategy. However, in battle you’re not necessarily supposed to be fighting 1v1 either. If you could pull every single enemy without agrroing any other enemy, then HoT would be pointless. I can’t imaging going through the zone one enemy at a time.

Plenty of guardians do perfectly well in HoT so the question becomes what are they doing that you’re not?

Could you please elaborate on your strategies?

All I see is hanging on bosses and mobs close to rally points. In any other places people are either glidind and bouncing on mushrooms.

How do you take several mobs at once?

ricky markham.8173:

thing i like to do with guardian before i got elites was movement along with rotating the shouts i carried kept me alive but now with a few elites i jump in and trap and watch them drop quick. i love the bow using ranged attacks but when i want to ouput a bit more damage i move to another weapon set. most hot enemies give you a warning when they are going to hit you hard just moving right when you see that warning saves on all classes. hot changed my style of playing instead of standing there(regular gw2) i move often. movement and aoe timings on raptors or annoying monsters means survival. i think since i learned to play better and i still solo stuff including veterans minus a few of them which are hero points. did a duo with an ele the other day and we both knew our stuff we downed everything in our path within a second or two. the ele say how i was playing and used my stuff to their advantage and i used the eles stuff to my advantage

It seems you were the only one who understood the problem. I will try and report back. Thx

also want to comment when you first try it try to space out your healing skills. i did change up my build somewhat too tweaked to give an extra heal when i needed once i got elites they were better for hot and didnt need as much heal but movement even left to right and keep your eyes on other creatures when moving. it is a learning process for every class. ive taken all nine classes through to get my elites and what you learn on one goes for a lot of the other classes. i am going to say i learned a lot of class mechanics from hot and im a better player now because of it things vanilla gw2 i didnt need to learn from it. it has made me a better wvw and pvp player too

Granrey.8920:

Vayne.8563:

There’s plenty of strategy on the map, you’re just not employing that strategy. However, in battle you’re not necessarily supposed to be fighting 1v1 either. If you could pull every single enemy without agrroing any other enemy, then HoT would be pointless. I can’t imaging going through the zone one enemy at a time.

Plenty of guardians do perfectly well in HoT so the question becomes what are they doing that you’re not?

Could you please elaborate on your strategies?

All I see is hanging on bosses and mobs close to rally points. In any other places people are either glidind and bouncing on mushrooms.

How do you take several mobs at once?

Different strategies with different professions but the main thing is to learn to prioritize. For example you can kite many of the bigger slower mobs, while taking out the faster more dangerous ones. I take out snipers first. Because they can hurt. I leave stuff like tendrils till most other stuff is dead. I also learn to use the terrain.

If you want I can run the some VB with you and show you what I do. It’s a lot easier than typing it.

Looks like you want more control and CC, luckily as a guardian you have access to a lot.

Staff has a wall which knocks and interupts any mobs hitting it (you can summon the wall on top of mobs to rupt them).

GS has AoE pull.

Hammer puts down a circle which again knocks mobs on contact.

Shield gives an AoE knockback.

Guardian also has plentiful access to AoE blinds (from F1 to weapon skills).

Getting the Elite Spec Dragon Hunter will give you access to traps and a long ranged option too.

You have the tools to do what you’re asking for already.

Coulter.2315:

Looks like you want more control and CC, luckily as a guardian you have access to a lot.

Staff has a wall which knocks and interupts any mobs hitting it (you can summon the wall on top of mobs to rupt them).

GS has AoE pull.

Hammer puts down a circle which again knocks mobs on contact.

Shield gives an AoE knockback.

Guardian also has plentiful access to AoE blinds (from F1 to weapon skills).

Getting the Elite Spec Dragon Hunter will give you access to traps and a long ranged option too.

You have the tools to do what you’re asking for already.

The wall last very little and does not work with all mobs. Flying mobs still pass, big mobs like the look alike dragons that tacke you, those pass the wall too. I would be fine if the wall reset agro upon and/or stun mobs upon contact. That way, it would give you enough time to move far enough and fight one or two mobs at the time.

The hammer circle same as above but again, you just gain couple secs and you ended up surrounded. The hammer is actually a 1vs1 kind of weapon.

The traps seems handy thought. I will play with those but seems time consuming.

Again, I don’t want to modify the current skills. It would be better to have an extra bar just for PVE to pull, stun, pull agro, etc. If you don’t want to use that bar. It’s all good.

Granrey.8920:

Seriously, I feel my toon is weakly skilled for HOT and the mobs are even not that hard.

Switch to a pew-pew ranger. Use longbow. – sorted.

I created a new ranger, exotic armor and weapons. Played the whole story line, killed Mordremoth, and did the Dragon Stand meta on it without any problems.

Then noticed that I had forgot to put any runes on the armor…. :blush:

Sounds to me like you’re just not willing to use the tools you already have. There is actually quite a bit of strategy needed when dealing with OW HoT mobs because most of them have unique tricks they pull on you. Not sure what profession you are struggling with but very few I have run through VB lack the tools needed to progress.

I guess Guardian is your struggle? DH will solve that if you have it. If you don’t, you simply need to know what the mobs tricks are and what you have to deal with it. Frankly, the skills you are requesting would make HoT easy mode; an AOE stun? pulls and agro pulls? No thanks.