Guild Wars 2

KongZhong published an article dealing with the new process to obtain a precursor.

Source: http://gw2.kongzhong.com/news/20150326/2284.html
Discussion on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/30cyay/precursor_crafting_appear_in_chinese_client/

Short abstract:

• You need to unlock and train the mastery tracks
• Speak to the “mastery merchant” and chose your precursor
• Complete three different collections. Determined by the precursor (?)
• Example give “Dance of the Norn”
• First Collection preparation of the dance: Hunt trophies of bests from all over Tyria
• Second Collection study and research with crafting experts. Show your skill.
• Third collection “Dance of the Norn”: Dancing, fireworks, rare wine and food
• Only one crafting per account and precursors. (Translation was confusing on this)
• All new Legendaries and their precursors are not tradeable!

Wait… so we can get precursors by doing the Carlton? The dance of the Norn?

Belenwyn.8674:

• All new Legendaries and their precursors are not tradeable!

This will change the current market for sure, if didn’t change already.

Cool info, thanks.

does that mean that you can only choose one precursor and that’s it?.. meaning only one legendary from the new ones?

Lazaar.9123:

Wait… so we can get precursors by doing the Carlton? The dance of the Norn?

partly, yes (first pic shows you need to dance for Janna)

Tried reading the goolge transation of the text. Its so confusing Can’t wait for Anet to release the english article.

lol, “Mushishi”…

Demi.8204:

does that mean that you can only choose one precursor and that’s it?.. meaning only one legendary from the new ones?

Nope, Devs already said you can make 1 of each precursor.
For example you can make an axe a sword and a longbow but not 3 swords.

Granted it was talking about the moot. BUT it stated at step 3 once legendary is made it can be traded… I hope its referring only to the previous ones not new. Cause otherwise this scavenger hunt is kinda… Pointless??

Ah my bad missed last line they aren’t tradable… Phew. Writing on phone.

Belenwyn.8674:

• Only one crafting per account and precursors. (Translation was confusing on this)
• All new Legendaries and their precursors are not tradeable!

These two things are quite interesting. I’m a bit concerned by the “only one per account” bit here. Only having access to one legendary to craft…ever? That seems like a pretty raw deal. Many weapons can’t be used for multiple professions, so I don’t really know why they would limit this…unless they really mean one precursor per account? That would make more sense, honestly.

Non tradeable is completely awesome though. Let the legendaries be legendary; no credit card heroes, thank you!

Demi.8204:

does that mean that you can only choose one precursor and that’s it?.. meaning only one legendary from the new ones?

I guess the new precursors will drop too.

Regarding the number of precursors that can be crafted was quite confusing in English and German. It could be that you can all precursors craft once or one precursors once per account. Here we have to wait for the blogpost published by Arenanet.

MiniEquine.6014:

Belenwyn.8674:

• Only one crafting per account and precursors. (Translation was confusing on this)
• All new Legendaries and their precursors are not tradeable!

These two things are quite interesting. I’m a bit concerned by the “only one per account” bit here. Only having access to one legendary to craft…ever? That seems like a pretty raw deal. Many weapons can’t be used for multiple professions, so I don’t really know why they would limit this…unless they really mean one precursor per account? That would make more sense, honestly.

Non tradeable is completely awesome though. Let the legendaries be legendary; no credit card heroes, thank you!

Read the article and not the bullet points. It’s per weapon type. Only the new legendaries, the ones that currently are not available, will not be sellable.

Demi.8204:

does that mean that you can only choose one precursor and that’s it?.. meaning only one legendary from the new ones?

I don’t think so.
From the reddit translation linked by OP:

“This weapon [the precursor you receive at the end of the scavenger hunt] can be traded, and its appearance will be similar to the legendary weapon. Unlocking this weapon will unlock the skin for the precursor and the previous weapons in your wardrobe. If you’re lucky and acquired a precursor without crafting, then you won’t lose the skins you unlock from the first 2 steps in the precursor crafting process.

Of course this method of acquiring a precursor can only be used once per account per precursor. If you want more than one precursor of the legendary, you’ll have to use the original way of relying on luck.

To enrich the journey of getting a legendary, the new legendaries and their precursors ARE UNTRADEABLE."

So, as I understand it, you can get ALL new precursors this way, but only once. If you want, say dual new-legendary daggers for whatever reason, you’ll need a lucky drop, since you can’t buy the new precursor on the trading post.
The old precursors, however, seem to be tradeable even if you get them through the collection.

Keep in mind that the person who translated the original article claims to know “limited Chinese”, so there may be some details unclear and/or wrong. Though it would seem that the general method was made pretty clear.

We want confirmation by the devs that it will be the same in EU and NA !

Lazaar.9123:

Wait… so we can get precursors by doing the Carlton? The dance of the Norn?

Maybe you have to copy the moves of Jennah & Co. You have a skill bar with moves and you have to activate the right one within a certain time.

Ayrilana.1396:

MiniEquine.6014:

Belenwyn.8674:

• Only one crafting per account and precursors. (Translation was confusing on this)
• All new Legendaries and their precursors are not tradeable!

These two things are quite interesting. I’m a bit concerned by the “only one per account” bit here. Only having access to one legendary to craft…ever? That seems like a pretty raw deal. Many weapons can’t be used for multiple professions, so I don’t really know why they would limit this…unless they really mean one precursor per account? That would make more sense, honestly.

Non tradeable is completely awesome though. Let the legendaries be legendary; no credit card heroes, thank you!

Read the article and not the bullet points. It’s per weapon type. Only the new legendaries, the ones that currently are not available, will not be sellable.

Oh good. I would have not enjoyed only being able to make one legendary. Also, I knew they weren’t gonna do anything to the old legendaries, but those are just RNG drops so I really couldn’t care less about them anyway. It is exciting new either way.

I’m slightly concern about the collection of skins part for precursors.
Are they including some of the insanely high price skin like Volcanus, Jaggument, Foefire series and so on?

I wonder if we will get a blog post about this today. Now that China have spilled the beans.

Well, I can see some items are going to increase in price very soon. They really should not have shown pictures of the energizer collection, I can already make out many of the items shown in it.

Edit: Was later confirmed by Linsey over in the GD thread that they are just placeholders.

the details in the reddit are pretty interesting, It is a bit odd, the chinese service appears to give info more freely.

anyhow, looks like each precursor has some unique quest elements. Might be cool.
Non tradeable for new legendaries, welcome to flossy items

Toxsa.2701:

I’m slightly concern about the collection of skins part for precursors.
Are they including some of the insanely high price skin like Volcanus, Jaggument, Foefire series and so on?

Why would they, they aren’t precursors.
Also, I assume Jaggument is supposed to mean Juggernaut? That is a legendary, so it will be obtainable this way?
Or did I misunderstand your question?

So crafted precursors and legendaries won’t be tradeable. But what about looted precursors? I wonder if the new precursors will also loot and if those are tradeable (should be).

“To enrich the journey of getting a legendary, the new legendaries and their precursors ARE UNTRADEABLE.”

I would think they are not tradeable, not even the drops.
Knowing my luck, I’ll start collecting a precursor, and the minute I finish it, I’ll get my only precursor drop ever – the one I just finished XD

Lazaar.9123:

Well, I can see some items are going to increase in price very soon. They really should not have shown pictures of the energizer collection, I can already make out many of the items shown in it.

It could be items with similar icon. Anet loves reusing icons.

Red Queen.7915:

Toxsa.2701:

I’m slightly concern about the collection of skins part for precursors.
Are they including some of the insanely high price skin like Volcanus, Jaggument, Foefire series and so on?

Why would they, they aren’t precursors.
Also, I assume Jaggument is supposed to mean Juggernaut? That is a legendary, so it will be obtainable this way?
Or did I misunderstand your question?

Sorry, I meant the Ele thunder hammer skin.
But from what I see, it says you have to do some unlocking of other skins for precursor no? I hope it doesn’t mean ALL skins other than precursors/ legendaries/ and bl weapons.

Would totally suck to get a precursor for a weapon you don’t want then.

Toxsa.2701:

Red Queen.7915:

Toxsa.2701:

I’m slightly concern about the collection of skins part for precursors.
Are they including some of the insanely high price skin like Volcanus, Jaggument, Foefire series and so on?

Why would they, they aren’t precursors.
Also, I assume Jaggument is supposed to mean Juggernaut? That is a legendary, so it will be obtainable this way?
Or did I misunderstand your question?

Sorry, I meant the Ele thunder hammer skin.
But from what I see, it says you have to do some unlocking of other skins for precursor no? I hope it doesn’t mean ALL skins other than precursors/ legendaries/ and bl weapons.

The way I read the article was that you unlock new skins with the collection. The further you progress, the more the skins will look like the legendary, sort of like a visual progression from the first unlock to the final product.
So you don’t need to buy skins to finish the collection, but rather get new skins for each completed step of it.

Malediktus.3740:

Lazaar.9123:

Well, I can see some items are going to increase in price very soon. They really should not have shown pictures of the energizer collection, I can already make out many of the items shown in it.

It could be items with similar icon. Anet loves reusing icons.

I really hope so. I use some of those foods and I would hate for them to increase in price even further, with the limited supply they have.

Edit: Was later confirmed by Linsey over in the GD thread that they are just placeholders.

Subutex.2416:

So crafted precursors and legendaries won’t be tradeable. But what about looted precursors? I wonder if the new precursors will also loot and if those are tradeable (should be).

nah crafted precursors will be tradeable, but you can only do each quest once (account? or charachter)
the NEW precursors wont be tradeable though

Demi.8204:

does that mean that you can only choose one precursor and that’s it?.. meaning only one legendary from the new ones?

Considering ANet has said multiple times that this is not the case, I think it means you can only do each precursor once, which makes sense if they’re based partially on collections.

New legendaries/precursors won’t be tradable? YEAAAAH! GW2 is now officially out of beta!

does it mean it’ll be “really” expensive for gambling seller.

Since if people want to gamble precursor to sell, they’ll have 50% chance to get a precursor they can’t sell.

So basically only people who actually want the precursor can gamble.

I just hope the new legendaries don’t have the whimsical/toy like quality of some of the gen 1 legendaries such Quip and Dreamer.

so this means if you want to craft one of the new legendaries twice you cant?

because you cant only make the precursor once and precursors that others found are not tradeable?

and mystic toilet is no option ofc

or will only the crafted new precursors be not tradeable
but normally dropped new precursors will be tradeable?

Orangensaft.7139:

so this means if you want to craft one of the new legendaries twice you cant?

because you cant only make the precursor once and precursors that others found are not tradeable?

and mystic toilet is no option ofc

I got the impression that the precursors can still drop, and the dropped ones will be tradeable, just like the current ones. I read it as only the precursors made by the Mastery System will be once per account and untradeble.

If that is not the case, the Twice-told legend achievement will basically become impossible for newer players once the supply of old precursors runs out.

Orangensaft.7139:

so this means if you want to craft one of the new legendaries twice you cant?

because you cant only make the precursor once and precursors that others found are not tradeable?

and mystic toilet is no option ofc

or will only the crafted new precursors be not tradeable
but normally dropped new precursors will be tradeable?

you can still get it as a drop or you can mystic forge to gamble it. So you can get 2 of the same new legendary if that’s what you wish.

It’s just the chance of you getting the precursor you want is quite low, so mystic forge is probably the only option.

a better question is why do you want to get 2 of the same legendary. Besides you can just get another legendary of the same weapon type and apply the skin if you really want that legendary.

Toxsa.2701:

Red Queen.7915:

Toxsa.2701:

I’m slightly concern about the collection of skins part for precursors.
Are they including some of the insanely high price skin like Volcanus, Jaggument, Foefire series and so on?

Why would they, they aren’t precursors.
Also, I assume Jaggument is supposed to mean Juggernaut? That is a legendary, so it will be obtainable this way?
Or did I misunderstand your question?

Sorry, I meant the Ele thunder hammer skin.
But from what I see, it says you have to do some unlocking of other skins for precursor no? I hope it doesn’t mean ALL skins other than precursors/ legendaries/ and bl weapons.

The ele hammer is Mjolnir*
I REALLY hope this isn’t the case, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you have to collect 2,000g worth of skins for a new precursor. Ha ha would make me laugh.

DanteZero.9736:

I just hope the new legendaries don’t have the whimsical/toy like quality of some of the gen 1 legendaries such Quip and Dreamer.

That is the main thing I am waiting to get a glimpse of is how they look including what particle effects they will each have.

So reading the reddit translation….

The crafted precursor will share the same skin as the legendary, and it will be tradable, but each precursor can only be done once per account.

And new HoT precursors and legendaries are not tradable.

Interesting

if you mystic forge the new precursor can you sell it? would totally suck if you can’t.

Precursors that drop should be tradeable. Precursors that are crafted should not be tradeable. But, if you get a lucky drop, one of those one time in a gaming career things, and it isn’t a part of a legendary that you want to build then you should be able to sell it. I can’t imagine having something along the lines of The Lover drop for me and being forced to either keep it or build The Dreamer — which is a weapon I personally find offensive.

If the precursors are obtained without using the crafting system we should be able to sell them. And the people who really want them should be allowed to buy them.

No complaints from me about Legendaries being account bound though — there is a lot of work that goes into them and that is not going to happen randomly.

This is how I have wanted the system to work since day 1. People that want a specific legendary don’t have to rely on RNG and those that don’t care aren’t flooding the market with ones they have grinded out. You get a precursor as a drop and it still has value on the market.

Good stuff ANet!

Aye.8392:

Precursors that drop should be tradeable. Precursors that are crafted should not be tradeable. But, if you get a lucky drop, one of those one time in a gaming career things, and it isn’t a part of a legendary that you want to build then you should be able to sell it. I can’t imagine having something along the lines of The Lover drop for me and being forced to either keep it or build The Dreamer — which is a weapon I personally find offensive.

If the precursors are obtained without using the crafting system we should be able to sell them. And the people who really want them should be allowed to buy them.

No complaints from me about Legendaries being account bound though — there is a lot of work that goes into them and that is not going to happen randomly.

ok looks like a lot of confusion here.

For current precursors:
you get a pre-precursor as you start the quest thats non tradeable
you upgrade it to a pre cursor, which is tradeable.
you can only do this quest once per legendary

for new precursors
both the legendary, and the precursor will be untradeable.

i dont think you will be able to mystic forge the new precursors, they will probably be drop, or collection only.

Kronos.2560:

Toxsa.2701:

Red Queen.7915:

Toxsa.2701:

I’m slightly concern about the collection of skins part for precursors.
Are they including some of the insanely high price skin like Volcanus, Jaggument, Foefire series and so on?

Why would they, they aren’t precursors.
Also, I assume Jaggument is supposed to mean Juggernaut? That is a legendary, so it will be obtainable this way?
Or did I misunderstand your question?

Sorry, I meant the Ele thunder hammer skin.
But from what I see, it says you have to do some unlocking of other skins for precursor no? I hope it doesn’t mean ALL skins other than precursors/ legendaries/ and bl weapons.

The ele hammer is Mjolnir*
I REALLY hope this isn’t the case, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you have to collect 2,000g worth of skins for a new precursor. Ha ha would make me laugh.

I really hope not. That would almost completely negate the pros of them being non-tradeable. However with who we seem to have in charge of rewards, it really wouldn’t surprise me much as they have proven to have no conceptual grasp of how it effects players’ perceptions of reward.

I have to say, getting precursors in a manner that is related to said precursor is very neat. To get the Moot, you must be immersed in norn culture which involves hunting beasts, drinking, singing and boasting.

Makes me wonder how the Hunter will work out. From it’s design alone, you can say that you’d have to be immersed in charr culture to an extent.

Malkavian.4516:

I have to say, getting precursors in a manner that is related to said precursor is very neat. To get the Moot, you must be immersed in norn culture which involves hunting beasts, drinking, singing and boasting.

Makes me wonder how the Hunter will work out. From it’s design alone, you can say that you’d have to be immersed in charr culture to an extent.

they said hunter would be based on hunting down beasts

for Dreamer you just have to /sleep in a town and BAM! Here’s your precursor! :P

phys.7689:

Malkavian.4516:

I have to say, getting precursors in a manner that is related to said precursor is very neat. To get the Moot, you must be immersed in norn culture which involves hunting beasts, drinking, singing and boasting.

Makes me wonder how the Hunter will work out. From it’s design alone, you can say that you’d have to be immersed in charr culture to an extent.

they said hunter would be based on hunting down beasts

I thought that was for the Moot.

Malkavian.4516:

phys.7689:

Malkavian.4516:

I have to say, getting precursors in a manner that is related to said precursor is very neat. To get the Moot, you must be immersed in norn culture which involves hunting beasts, drinking, singing and boasting.

Makes me wonder how the Hunter will work out. From it’s design alone, you can say that you’d have to be immersed in charr culture to an extent.

they said hunter would be based on hunting down beasts

I thought that was for the Moot.

oops you might be right, they were probably talking about the great hunt, not the precursor the hunter

The questing and collecting aspects look good to me. They seem similar to what is needed for the Mawdrey ascended back piece, which I seem to recall was a test of that process.

I really enjoyed making that one except for the time gates on plant food and charged crystals. Having these items depend on doing certain quests, mini-dungeons, etc, also ensures that there are always people doing that stuff, which I think makes most areas more fun, and less likely to be deserted and lonely.

And english page is up: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-legendary-journey/

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-legendary-journey/

ooops, beaten by second.