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Posted by: Flex Might.6514

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Hey guys I was just thinking of the concept of the Revenant’s specialization! Do you think it will be a new weapon, a new legend, or even both?! If it’s a legend I hope it’s Dhuum, that would be sweet! Feel free to put in your thoughts!

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

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We know it will be a new weapon, as it was stated that each profession’s specialization would have a new weapon. No reason to think Revenant will be an exception.

As for new legend, that depends on how much they change the class mechanic, if at all. My personal speculation is that they will only get one legend (I think it will be Glint) and won’t be able to switch. As a compensation, they will use less energy per skill (due to not being able to switch) and will have the option to mix and match skills rather than have a set bar (from skills specifically designed for the specialization).

It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Posted by: Flex Might.6514

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Oh nice, yeah I should have figured they wouldn’t be an exception for a new weapon. Glint would be cool as well.

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Posted by: Orpheal.8263

Orpheal.8263

The Legends are mostly already clear

Jalis
Mallyx
Shiro
Ventari
Glint

If the Specalization would be realyl about another legend, I think this would be a waste, due to Specializations should be significant different, than the Main Profession.

So rather expect the Revenant Specialization to be something completely different, that makes not at much usage of legendary stances, but will have instead a different gameplay mechanic.

Personally I like the idea behind sub classes ~ quoted from Chris Whiteside

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Posted by: Seyta Hamon.8071

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We know it will be a new weapon, as it was stated that each profession’s specialization would have a new weapon. No reason to think Revenant will be an exception.

As for new legend, that depends on how much they change the class mechanic, if at all. My personal speculation is that they will only get one legend (I think it will be Glint) and won’t be able to switch. As a compensation, they will use less energy per skill (due to not being able to switch) and will have the option to mix and match skills rather than have a set bar (from skills specifically designed for the specialization).

We have seen Rytlock using the Glint Elite skill already, I doubt that was a Revenant specialization reveal. Also screen shots of Revenant skill bars show the quick-slot arrows above the utility skills showing that the skills are not completely locked to the channeled spirit.

A possibility that has crossed my mind and seems more likely (although unbalanced as a concept) is the channeled spirit effecting the weapon skills not just the utility skills. Revenants are already unique against the other proffs so speculation on how they become more unique is rather difficult. Especially with the lack of information on them.

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

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Scepter for a 1hander ranged weapon makes sense.
Also Off Hand Focus for support skills.

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Posted by: Linken.6345

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We know it will be a new weapon, as it was stated that each profession’s specialization would have a new weapon. No reason to think Revenant will be an exception.

As for new legend, that depends on how much they change the class mechanic, if at all. My personal speculation is that they will only get one legend (I think it will be Glint) and won’t be able to switch. As a compensation, they will use less energy per skill (due to not being able to switch) and will have the option to mix and match skills rather than have a set bar (from skills specifically designed for the specialization).

If they lock down the specilisation with 1 legend weapon swap would be the trade off instead of cheaper energy on skills imo

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Posted by: Hutchy.5430

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1 Stance seems completely pointless, My ranger has one stance too!

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Posted by: Kaiden Valor.7163

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Also screen shots of Revenant skill bars show the quick-slot arrows above the utility skills showing that the skills are not completely locked to the channeled spirit.

During the stress test & demos all this did was let you re-arrange the skills.

If every legend gets 5 skills unique to them, that’s 25 utility/healing/elite skills for the profession which is roughly what the other professions get (although not as even spread). I suspect that the quick slot icons will stay as being just for moving the skills around & each legend will get a set skillbar.

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Posted by: Invictus.1503

Invictus.1503

We know it will be a new weapon, as it was stated that each profession’s specialization would have a new weapon. No reason to think Revenant will be an exception.

As for new legend, that depends on how much they change the class mechanic, if at all. My personal speculation is that they will only get one legend (I think it will be Glint) and won’t be able to switch. As a compensation, they will use less energy per skill (due to not being able to switch) and will have the option to mix and match skills rather than have a set bar (from skills specifically designed for the specialization).

If they lock down the specilisation with 1 legend weapon swap would be the trade off instead of cheaper energy on skills imo

I thought of that too, but the compensation was fully cheaper energy, but the ability to swap out skills. Although I know some still hold on to the idea that this will be possible with all legends (because of arrows) I hold that those arrows are only able to change the position of the skills and because it still indicates when you are out of combat. I believe the specialization will have a pool of skills to choose from as compensation for locking down the legend.

It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

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Posted by: Scoobaniec.9561

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Personally i dont want to have selectable utilities.

First – noone will be capable of forcing me to pick up certain skills as they are all locked to legends. I want to play the way i want instead of playing yet another meta noob build. Warrior is destroyed for me at this point as everyone except them to carry a banner yet i reject being a banner bot and for that reason i stopped playing him even in pve. Let him run these chestfarm. Ofc its obvious there will be a zerk legend but its a bit different situation here.

Second – i want legends to have their own theme and iconic skills. Whats the point of channeling Jalis to use shiro+glint skills? thats breaking immersion for me. And cause they are not swapable they need to make sure that all of these abilities are viable and has their uses in certain situations. Otherwise x legend will become underpowered and considered non viable. We have enough of that stuff.

Third – i would prefer swapable weapon skills instead. Thats something no other class has yet. Imagine if you could run with a weapon you prefer and adjust it to your playstyle – want hammer ranger? np. You changed mind and want use it as melee weapon? Np man. You tried playing it and decided full melee is not your style? Here man, take this skill set which is a mix of melee and ranged attacks. Enjoy.

In short revenant abilities so far seems really strong but they have their downsides due to legend limitations. If they allowed us to swap abilities then we will see alot of these abilities nerfed into ground as i can imagine already putting there perma stab, boon removal, condi removal (if they get one), aoe endure pain called rite and who knows what else. Runned out of energy? Swap, you have energy up to use these skills again. Thats how it would work. If you wanted to run themed skills tied to legends? Tough luck. You might as well delete your toon as you wont be viable with that mix-n-match.

As it stands now mallyx is a offensive condi tank that can punish anyone for applying condition to him. He can protect himself pretty well from conditions at the cost of basically 0 mobility and lack of tools to deal with cc/direct damage. Jalis is the opposite – high stab uptime, no cd stunbreak, direct damage immunity at the cost of no condi removal outside of his healing skill on 30cd. But he also lack mobility. Thats how they getting balanced – you get some strong abilities at the cost of lacking somewhere else. Cant have it all otherwise its will be broken as kitten.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

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I may be wrong, but I think Revenant’s specializations may be pretty simple. 1 thing ain’t really sure : Will revenants “legendary stances” just divided in “legendary hero” and “legendary demon”?

From what I see, we may have :
- Legendary hero : Jalis
- Legendary demon : Mallyx
- Legendary sage : Ventari
- Legendary dragon : Glint
- Legendary whatever-you-want : Shiro

This way, you can introduce with each specialization a second one of these archetype leading to this kind of model :

Specialization :
Sages : Gain a new legend that replace shiro’s legend by Togo’s Legend.
Dragons : Gain a new legend that replace Mallyx’s legend by Kunaavang’s legend.
Demons : Gain a new legend that replace Ventari’s legend by Kanaxai’s legend.
Heros : Gain a new legend that replace Glint’s legend by King Doric’s legend.
… etc.

That could be a pretty easy way to do things, don’t you think?

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: FoRcExVoRtEx.9548

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I think having Glint as a specialization legend would be not only cool, but would make sense too. Think about the story and ’Glint’s Secret’ in the Maguuma Jungle!

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Posted by: Farming Flats.5370

Farming Flats.5370

Revenant Specialization ?

humm i want Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan as Legend to go with the melee Staff + funny battle cries