Guild Wars 2

I believe that the current hero points are well done given that you have at least 2+ people completing it together. This work out great for some (those players who play in a party and do challenges together) however it does not work for players who like running around solo and joining in on group content as they come across it. I think a way to alleviate this would be to provide a reward to anyone who helps participate in a hero point regardless of whether they have completed it. Give an incentive for players to jump in and help others with hero points they have already completed. Perhaps giving a champion loot bag as a reward would be a possibility for players returning to an already completed hero point to help others? I don’t believe a huge reward is necessary just give me and everyone else a reason to go out of our way to help other players complete their hero points. Anybody else have feedback or suggestions on such a system?

TL;DR Give players loot for helping out with champs on hero points to give incentive to players to help others who could not have succeeded without help.

I think this definitely merits discussion.

Thanks, if anyone has some alternative ideas to what would be an appropriate reward for helping others complete hero points please post it!

Loot or an event complete XP reward would be great!

I always found it strange in the base game how when you help someone complete a hero point you got nothing, but since those could be all done solo it was never an issue. Just want to brainstorm some good ideas so this can be fixed for current and future content if this kind of difficulty is to be the new standard for hero points.

Way to exploitable, people would just pick an easy hero challenge and do it over and over. Only way to prevent that would to add some kind of daily limit but then the reward would have to be good enough to warrant even wasting time to go do it consistantly enough that it would even solve the base issue

I have a bad memory, so I may be wrong here, but last time I helped someone with his hero challenge, I believe I did get a reward. Not sure about exp though.

Kayberz.5346:

Way to exploitable, people would just pick an easy hero challenge and do it over and over. Only way to prevent that would to add some kind of daily limit but then the reward would have to be good enough to warrant even wasting time to go do it consistantly enough that it would even solve the base issue

Perhaps they could simply make it so that the reward only goes through when someone actually earns a Hero Point from it.

Kayberz.5346:

Way to exploitable, people would just pick an easy hero challenge and do it over and over. Only way to prevent that would to add some kind of daily limit but then the reward would have to be good enough to warrant even wasting time to go do it consistantly enough that it would even solve the base issue

I know the overall issue will be hard to address. I’m looking for a way to give incentive to players who are in the general area to go out of their way to help you. But at the same time I can see it being exploitable if there is no limit. I think giving a daily reward for every hero point may be a step in the right direction.

Uh that’s exactly how it works currently. You get a big chunk of free XP plus some random loot.

Wasderty.7803:

I have a bad memory, so I may be wrong here, but last time I helped someone with his hero challenge, I believe I did get a reward. Not sure about exp though.

Yes, you do get event rewards from all of the Champion mobs, even if you have the related Hero Points already.

Wasderty.7803:

I have a bad memory, so I may be wrong here, but last time I helped someone with his hero challenge, I believe I did get a reward. Not sure about exp though.

I do vaguely remember getting reward experience once from helping someone complete a hero point I already completed. However I only experienced this once and I have helped many players complete hero points since (friends and those I randomly ran in to) and have not been given any reward since so I’m not sure if it was a bug or some sort of fluke.

tobascodagama.2961:

Wasderty.7803:

I have a bad memory, so I may be wrong here, but last time I helped someone with his hero challenge, I believe I did get a reward. Not sure about exp though.

Yes, you do get event rewards from all of the Champion mobs, even if you have the related Hero Points already.

Are you sure about this? And if so do you think it is adequate or needs some tweaking to really give a valid incentive to players?

This is definitely a good suggestion.
However, they need to make sure the HPs are not farmable.

Some replies are saying that the rewards proposed is how it is in game however I have not experienced this consistently, is there anyone who can confirm or deny whether this is true? And if it is true are the rewards adequate?

I definitely got XP and loot for helping someone with a HC I had already unlocked. I was actually confused at first, because I’m used to Hero Points being their own reward.

magicmooman.6409:

I think a way to alleviate this would be to provide a reward to anyone who helps participate in a hero point regardless of whether they have completed it.

This is an excellent idea. Will be needed in a few weeks for new players and people leveling alts.

The rewards should be good enough to encourage this. Maybe some mats and a rare (or dare I say exotic).

This is a must, it’s going to get harder and harder to find groups to do these Hero Points as it is.

Not sure what the problem is here.

There is DAILLY reward for every hero point in the form of loot and experience points. As far as I see they already did this? Or do you think the rewards wont be enough to keep people helping others with it?

I like to run around randomly helping people without expectation of reward. It’s called doing a good deed. The reward is it makes you feel great.

Jayne.9251:

I like to run around randomly helping people without expectation of reward. It’s called doing a good deed. The reward is it makes you feel great.

You’re missing the point.

Apparently they already have daily rewards and I did not realize this as it was not apparent to me in game, thanks for the clarification. Link below to wiki with details
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hero_challenge
It is limited to only the event based hero challenges which is what I believe I described as the difficult 2+ person challenges. Thanks for the thoughtful posts and if anyone has better suggestions than those already posted to give further incentive players feel free to reply.

Ticky.5831:

Jayne.9251:

I like to run around randomly helping people without expectation of reward. It’s called doing a good deed. The reward is it makes you feel great.

You’re missing the point.

I think my point was: Why do you have to be incentivized to help someone?

Today, for example, I stuck around the Treacherous Path Hero event for an hour, jumping in to help others because that particular one is tough.

Walked away feeling good