Self rooting MELEE skills need to go.

Self rooting MELEE skills need to go.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

So you can do it, but you have to make sacrifices?

Or you can use one of the many many other weapon combinations, some of which are exceptionally strong in PvP?

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The idea that a class with as many strong options as warrior is complaining about 1 skill that’s hard to use when compared to some of the other things out there is kind of nutty to me.

Thats because you should go back to reading comprehension 101. The title says Self Rooting Melee skills. NOT “One Hundred Blades”.

This applies to every other skills like this in the game, not just HB.

And yet, title aside the talk is mostly about 100B. As a few have mentioned, there’s a legitimate case to be made about the ranger 1h LS, but that’s not the focus of the complaints.

It’s also very different than 100B, in that it’s like a real root.

Still, I’m happy to go with what others said: There’s a valid complaint about ranger LS1. Warriors need to qwittheirkittenin’

No HB is the most obvious offender, but they all have the same problem.

And it’s an intended problem… so… yeah…

Yeah an Anet has never made mistakes in regards to GW2 and pvp, right?, the state of warrior in pvp at launch comes to mind…

Who said every weapon has to be perfectly suited for pvp though?

And you still have some very hard hitting abilities, great traveling speed, an evade, and 100blades still does an awesome job on a downed opponant if that’s something you need/want(rock someone while they’re attempting to pick them up, or finish them quickly when a stomp may not be as well suited for the job)

You certainly have better options in PVP but GS has it’s niche too. Just like some things are pretty /meh in PVE some things are the same in PVP.

Thx to Simon for the vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVD0VfwF74

^Pure zerk as you can see in subtitles, yet it failed at your “awesome job on a downed opponent” so what is really hb good at? Yeah, at nothing. It cant even cleave dead bodies and punish anyone who rez. And what about ppl that doesnt run full zerk build? Yeah..5k hb? 4k? Thats a joke. Where is that “reward”?

Hb is nothing else but a trash skill that should be deleted long time ago already. Wake up, its not 2012 nor 2013 anymore. I bet many of you still think that warrior has higher dps in pve as well?

Attacking 2 enemies with protection and curious if that engi had any healing power gear on. 10k damage is nothing to scoff at, but that doesn’t mean it’ll down everyone

Youre basically saying right now “its ok i have some cc skill which wont cc everytime but its nothing to worry about” either something work or doesnt. In current meta everyone can facetank hb. If hb is olny supposed to do like many of forum user says – cleaving bodies and yet it fails, then whats the point of this skill? Leave number 2 blank, noone will notice any difference anyway.

So if you use a CC and they have stability do you come complain that the CC doesn’t work too?

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Posted by: Apolo.5942

Apolo.5942

Are we still BS around the risk reward crap. You always cancel out of it, and it never hits anyone for any significant damage, there is literally NO risk and NO reward involved. That is not risk/reward, thats is a NONSKILL, might as well have a blank spot there.

If you think there is no risk, then there is no reason for you to care.

Yes there is because there is no reward either, might as well just give me 4 skills with GS for all this does.

Yeah, HB does very low dps, thats why warriors don’t use it in dungeon runs.

If you cared to read this is a pvp oriented thread, pve conrflake comps dont need balancing.

If you cared to read my post. You would know that warrior uses HB for a reason.

Yes, i do use it in dungeos, same as blurred frenzy or the axe from the ranger, the reason is quite simple. AI is stupid enough to stand its full length on the same place. Some people here seem to be as competent as AI.

Why else would you use HB, Blurred Frenzy, or whirling defense?

Because i like the weapon? and i dont know i have this thing where i get miffed if im playing with 4 skills and everyone else has 5?.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Nice use of 100blades in that first clip.

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Posted by: Windsagio.1340

Windsagio.1340

Are we still BS around the risk reward crap. You always cancel out of it, and it never hits anyone for any significant damage, there is literally NO risk and NO reward involved. That is not risk/reward, thats is a NONSKILL, might as well have a blank spot there.

If you think there is no risk, then there is no reason for you to care.

Yes there is because there is no reward either, might as well just give me 4 skills with GS for all this does.

Yeah, HB does very low dps, thats why warriors don’t use it in dungeon runs.

If you cared to read this is a pvp oriented thread, pve conrflake comps dont need balancing.

If you cared to read my post. You would know that warrior uses HB for a reason.

Yes, i do use it in dungeos, same as blurred frenzy or the axe from the ranger, the reason is quite simple. AI is stupid enough to stand its full length on the same place. Some people here seem to be as competent as AI.

Why else would you use HB, Blurred Frenzy, or whirling defense?

Because i like the weapon? and i dont know i have this thing where i get miffed if im playing with 4 skills and everyone else has 5?.

Your exaggeration aside, not every weapon is equally optimal in every mode, especially when we’re talking about a weapon that’s pretty kitten good. Also you have 6 base weapons skills as warrior, ><

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

Are we still BS around the risk reward crap. You always cancel out of it, and it never hits anyone for any significant damage, there is literally NO risk and NO reward involved. That is not risk/reward, thats is a NONSKILL, might as well have a blank spot there.

If you think there is no risk, then there is no reason for you to care.

Yes there is because there is no reward either, might as well just give me 4 skills with GS for all this does.

Yeah, HB does very low dps, thats why warriors don’t use it in dungeon runs.

If you cared to read this is a pvp oriented thread, pve conrflake comps dont need balancing.

If you cared to read my post. You would know that warrior uses HB for a reason.

Yes, i do use it in dungeos, same as blurred frenzy or the axe from the ranger, the reason is quite simple. AI is stupid enough to stand its full length on the same place. Some people here seem to be as competent as AI.

Why else would you use HB, Blurred Frenzy, or whirling defense?

Because i like the weapon? and i dont know i have this thing where i get miffed if im playing with 4 skills and everyone else has 5?.

Okay, I give up. Good luck on getting ANet to comply with your complaint.

5x Warrior, 5x Ranger, 4x Elementalist, 4x Engineer,
4x Necromancer, 3x Mesmer, 4x Guardian, 4x Thief, 4 Revenant

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Posted by: Coldtart.4785

Coldtart.4785

Hundred blades has less dps than warrior axe auto and the same dps as rapid fire. Neither of those skills requires any significant setup to function so you can’t say that hundred blades is a ‘risk/reward’ attack at all.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

I disagree.

Self rooting melee skills is for the high risk and high reward which is needed for skill based games.

This.
Also, I’d rather not soil my pants at the sight of three Wars charging at me with Hundred Blades channeled.

lol, the mental image of this is both terrifying and hilarious at the same time.

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

You know you’ve seen it all when people say the hardest hitting attack in the game besides frostbow 4 and maybe meteor shower — both which require large hitboxes and a way longer channel — does “horrible” damage.