Guild Wars 2

So yesterday anet announced the start of the beta-test.

Since there is “no nondisclosure agreement for this beta-tests”, does this mean all infos are coming out?

Actually just could be a wish but it would be nice to have official infos rather then a huge amount of gameplay videos. So can we look forward to the infos left?

That would depend on how they do the betas. It is quite likely that they do them in staged and doesn’t just add the whole expansion into the very first build.

I am also assuming that we will have deep dives on all things before beta starts.

It really depends on what is included in the beta and since noone knows what is included we can’t tell.

Things I expect to be in the beta: stronghold, the new wvw borderlands map, the revenant (to the extent that it is finished), (some) specializations, (some) masteries, the first map of the expansion (or at least a decent part of it), guild halls.

Things I don’t expect to be in the beta: All maps, all story content.

I’d be suprised if the Beta testing is anything more then demo.

If they just port the Demo to say… 10,000 people.. and of those, 4000 play for no less then 8 hours a day, and then give decent feedback, that’s 32,000 hours of play testing and reviewing served on a golden platter to Anet for next to no man hours themselves, which is not a bad thing mind you. Hell, even if you take into account the 6000 that could get at most 3 hours a day, that’s still another 18,000 hours of data collection… You can do a lot with 18,000 hours of data.

and that’s just the first Beta…

Sarif.1827:

I’d be suprised if the Beta testing is anything more then demo.

If they just port the Demo to say… 10,000 people.. and of those, 4000 play for no less then 8 hours a day, and then give decent feedback, that’s 32,000 hours of play testing and reviewing served on a golden platter to Anet for next to no man hours themselves, which is not a bad thing mind you. Hell, even if you take into account the 6000 that could get at most 3 hours a day, that’s still another 18,000 hours of data collection… You can do a lot with 18,000 hours of data.

and that’s just the first Beta…

Do you honestly think that they will release the expansion with only having large-scale tested a very small part of it?

I do not think you know what a beta actually is (which is quite common nowadays, most companies sees betas as marketing events rather than actual testing). ArenaNet do on the other hand, based on past experience of GW2 do real betas and actually changes stuff based on feedback during those betas.

lordkrall.7241:

Sarif.1827:

I’d be suprised if the Beta testing is anything more then demo.

If they just port the Demo to say… 10,000 people.. and of those, 4000 play for no less then 8 hours a day, and then give decent feedback, that’s 32,000 hours of play testing and reviewing served on a golden platter to Anet for next to no man hours themselves, which is not a bad thing mind you. Hell, even if you take into account the 6000 that could get at most 3 hours a day, that’s still another 18,000 hours of data collection… You can do a lot with 18,000 hours of data.

and that’s just the first Beta…

Do you honestly think that they will release the expansion with only having large-scale tested a very small part of it?

I do not think you know what a beta actually is (which is quite common nowadays, most companies sees betas as marketing events rather than actual testing). ArenaNet do on the other hand, based on past experience of GW2 do real betas and actually changes stuff based on feedback during those betas.

Oh really? …. I don’t know what I’m talking about? Well… if your so sure.. then I suppose I can’t argue with you, because clearly, you know me better then I do.

Please don’t insult people you don’t know.. it makes you look socially underdeveloped.

With that out of the way, Yes, I do believe they wont give First Phase Closed Beta Testers access to everything, and that is based of the limited Press Demo, and the lack of a NDA.

If I am wrong, then HEY! Sweet! Kick kitten , but my personal opinion on this is just that, I NEVER said anything about the ability of Anet to change things or response to feedback, in fact, I even recall saying that the CBT will be a amazing way for them to get ahold of some amazing data to, I thought this spoke for itself.., CHANGE THINGS BASED ON FEEDBACK AND NUMERICAL DATA.

Your free to go back and re-read my post, I believe I even stated that my opinion was based on the first beta available. You yourself even stated that you feel Anet will do Betas in stages.

lordkrall.7241:

That would depend on how they do the betas. It is quite likely that they do them in staged and doesn’t just add the whole expansion into the very first build.

It has already started there will be two major beta phases already (Closed and Open). For all I know, Open Beta could be a “Here’s the Expac, Go nuts, find us Bugs to fix so we can get this monster ready.”

lordkrall.7241:

Do you honestly think that they will release the expansion with only having large-scale tested a very small part of it?

Are you saying the original GW2 beta test included most, or at least half of the content in the game?

If they excessively limit the amount of content the beta-testers can explore, they would have to make a LOT of different beta tests, each having a different area and different stuff to test. Because the purpose of a beta is to get player feedback and discover bugs. Now, if nothing is “finished”, player feedback is going to be falsified, and major bugs that could go as far as crash the game/PC/server might lurk in the areas nobody has access to.