Guild Wars 2

Is there a list of ones I can solo in new hot maps? I just bought HOT a few days ago, and I’ve wandered around aimlessly awaiting someone to do trains, which never seems to happen.

I’m at a loss and already have world completion from before hot.

Any advice?

I bought HoT around 3 weeks ago and achieved map completion after a week. Here’s what I did:

I’m a ranger so for obvious reasons I was probably able to solo a bit more than you, BUT as I got to AB/TD/DS I was not able to do this for the most part. Many of the HP’s are simply channeling effects so those you can pick off right away. Next, try to be on maps right after the main meta events are complete. Trains tend to start there. You can find a wonderful timer here:

http://dulfy.net/2015/11/09/gw2-hot-maps-timer-famme/

So as for the ones I could not solo… You have three options. Find a train like I described above, which I didn’t do myself. You can wait in a safe spot until others will naturally, eventually, arrive. I think the most I waited was on a HP in TD for about 15-20 minutes. The third option is to get your mentor tag. Now I know a lot of people are not happy with the idea of working with others in a MMO because it isn’t “casual”, but you throw up your mentor tag and post in map chat “So and so HP on my tag!” Naturally this + open world LFG will eventually find you a partner in a mere few minutes.

I know a lot of people complain about the difficulty of these HP’s but with increased reward comes increased difficulty. Working together and taking full advantage of the tools given to you is key to any MMO and this is what worked for me.

Edit: Oh, and it’s worth mentioning the worst HP is in TD. It is the “Mushroom Queen” HP and it is ridiculous because of the amount of space you get to fight her. This will typically take 4-5 people to zerg her down quickly so if you ever see any mention of this in TD map chat then do it! What I did was tag up, post in LFG, and I got a group of 6-7 people together and led them personally to the HP.

There are also two HP’s in DS which require meta completion. Once you kill off modre there will be two giant red arrows on your map. Simply follow them and ride the train!

As for HP’s in TD (or anywhere else for that matter) where you’re like “I have no clue where to even start to find these!” I would suggest youtube-ing the area the HP’s are located in (Ex. Google “Deeproot Sink HP”) and either using a guide or watch a video. Some of the exploration gets a bit crazy, especially in TD, but this provides entertaining content that you don’t simply walk to and complete.

If you need additional help, or do not wish to use guides, then hit me up in game! I am always happy to help!

Dulfy has great guides for all HPs. She lists all required masteries and the number of recommended players. Here are the links:

Verdant Brink: http://dulfy.net/2015/10/25/gw2-verdant-brinks-hero-points-guide/

Auric Basin: http://dulfy.net/2015/10/26/gw2-auric-basin-hero-points-guide/

Tangled Depths: http://dulfy.net/2015/10/27/gw2-tangled-depths-hero-points-guide/

Dragon’s Stand: http://dulfy.net/2015/11/02/gw2-dragons-stand-hero-points-and-strongboxes-guide/

I did one train with GW2 community in europe, you can google for their website to find out when they are doing events. I am sure there must be a similar organization in the US servers.

Doing a train of all zones takes time but worth it if you want to map. There are also a couple of them that depend on successful map events but those should be easy if you manage to do the event, Tarir has an underground champion that is only accessible after a successful meta event buy then you have a full zerg heading to do it

Dulfy’s guide is great, but keep in mind that a lot of it depends on your skill, as some of the champions are easy to solo. The one spawned by the flower HP in Auric Basin has never been a threat to me, for example. On the other hand, some of them can be quite challenging.
Additionally, HoT’s HPs give 10 points each, so you only have to do a few to unlock everything your elite spec needs, especially if you have some skill points left over from basic GW2.

Furajir.3815:

Is there a list of ones I can solo in new hot maps?

All.

I have done all 40 HoT HP on all classes and have done each one at least on one class solo. Some are easier or harder on the different classes but normally you can solo them.

If you search for the ones where you only need to channel use dulfy.

Furajir.3815:

Is there a list of ones I can solo in new hot maps? I just bought HOT a few days ago, and I’ve wandered around aimlessly awaiting someone to do trains, which never seems to happen.

I’m at a loss and already have world completion from before hot.

Any advice?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3td33y/a_soloable_hp_guide_for_getting_all_your_specs/

If you’re looking for a hp train, AB is your best bet. It’s flat enough that people regularly do running trains, so no wp needed. VB and TD are more difficult for new players to get around so trains are less efficient, easier to just ask map chat. And DS hp are mostly gated behind successful meta completion.

The dulfy.net guides are really useful, esp the hard to get to, but easy to solo hps.

Here’s my suggestion, although it’s based on having a lot of Maguuma masteries unlocked, so I suggest you do that first.

The easiest HPs are in Verdant Brink, but most require at least gliding, ideally updraft and Wallow too. Looking at the map on the Wiki, go for the one at the Pact Ship Wreckage, Ancient Tree, Ancient Fighting Pit, Abyssal Depths, Nuhock Alchemical Energy, Cliffside Ruins, and Wyvern Nesting Grounds. These are all channels, no combat needed, if you can reach them. Most can be reached through gliding alone, although some you might need to WP back from.

Then in Auric Basin, some characters can sneak into the Balthazar one, but otherwise he needs to be killed. Burnisher Quarry can be reached with either Leyline gliding or Wallow, Exalted Overlook in Tarir is the easiest to get in the game, and the Toxin Hog is no combat, but requires a highly placed mastery. Also, if you complete the meta event in the center, it opens the Exalted Seer under the city, which is effortless because there are always plenty of people on that one during it’s limited opening.

Then in TD, the Ancient Power Core, Jellyfish Grotto, and Gilded River ones are all no-combat.

The other thing you might want to consider is running the Dragon’s Stand event. Do the one event chain, and then when it’s over, there are seven more HPs that you can hit, none of which require additional combat, and there are people around anyway. It’s possible to get full map completion in a single run of Dragon’s Stand if you plan out where to go during the limited “post event” open period.

Anyway, if those aren’t enough, getting an Auric Basin HP train is the easiest, and the best time to look for one is right after the meta event ends, because usually some commander from the meta will decide to start an achievement train after that.

Avarice.2791:

There are also two HP’s in DS which require meta completion. Once you kill off modre there will be two giant red arrows on your map. Simply follow them and ride the train!

There are a bit more than 2 ..

There are the 3 in the areas with the champs and pods although the spider one you can get to from the back but that basically abusing a bug.

Then there is the one at Serenty’s Cove.

The 3 at the blighting towers do not require completing the meta but the difference between completing that and completing the meta is relatively minor on a decent map.

Ohoni.6057:

Toxin Hog is no combat, but requires a highly placed mastery

The mastery makes it easy but it is not required. All it requires is spamming the heal skill(or setting it to autouse) and a bit of math. I forget the percent the skill heals you for but you just need to start spamming the heal a bit before you have lost that amount of health.

The mastery makes it easy but it is not required. All it requires is spamming the heal skill(or setting it to autouse) and a bit of math. I forget the percent the skill heals you for but you just need to start spamming the heal a bit before you have lost that amount of health.

I’ve tried it a lot, and I’m fairly sure it’s impossible without very specific circumstances. I mean, there are various class buffs that would make heal more effective, stat loadouts, alacrity, etc., but for most classes I don’t think you can just roll in there and “do it right” to pass it. I would recommend doing the combat ones before that one without Adrenal mushrooms, unless you carefully research the tools you need to do without.

You can use some healing skills to make the hog trial easier. Sylvari have their racial heal, engis have healing turrets and med kits, warriors have regen banners, etc.

dekou.6012:

You can use some healing skills to make the hog trial easier. Sylvari have their racial heal, engis have healing turrets and med kits, warriors have regen banners, etc.

Cept u arent affected by healing during the time.

What you do is auto-cast the heal after you take 5 ticks of damage and just wait till it succeeds. This is what ive done every time i had to do that HP and I havent failed a single time.

Furajir.3815:

Is there a list of ones I can solo in new hot maps? I just bought HOT a few days ago, and I’ve wandered around aimlessly awaiting someone to do trains, which never seems to happen.

I’m at a loss and already have world completion from before hot.

Any advice?

Typically if you ask for advice in map chat, folks will come help. Most of the hero challenges are communes, and if you have the appropriate mastery for them (if needed), then you can solo those (exception being Balthazar’s Rest due to being protected by a champion – you need to stealth past that guy). Just look up which are commune on the wiki – unfortunately their list of hero challenges in Magus Falls don’t (currently) list the challenge type. Something it should.

If you have world completion in Central Tyria, then you only need 4-5 hero challenges for the elite specialization, so you can easily get these from just Verdant Brink. If you’re after map completing, then you might be better off starting a train for Tangled Depths.

Ohoni.6057:

The mastery makes it easy but it is not required. All it requires is spamming the heal skill(or setting it to autouse) and a bit of math. I forget the percent the skill heals you for but you just need to start spamming the heal a bit before you have lost that amount of health.

I’ve tried it a lot, and I’m fairly sure it’s impossible without very specific circumstances. I mean, there are various class buffs that would make heal more effective, stat loadouts, alacrity, etc., but for most classes I don’t think you can just roll in there and “do it right” to pass it. I would recommend doing the combat ones before that one without Adrenal mushrooms, unless you carefully research the tools you need to do without.

Any class can do it without Adrenal Mushrooms mastery or extra heals. Here is how:

1) pick up bacon
2) hover mouse over heal skill hotkey
3) click mouse
4) watch health go down 3 ticks
5) before 4th health tick, CTRL-right click mouse on heal skill hotkey to set to auto use
6) sit back and watch. You can hover the mouse over the toxin condition to monitor the time left until it stops ticking down and you get the HP.

This removes the need to worry about reflex times, lag, ping, etc, other than in that one moment of hitting ctrl-right click.

This removes the need to worry about reflex times, lag, ping, etc, other than in that one moment of hitting ctrl-right click.

I have done this, several times, and it does not work. It at the least requires a certain balance of stats to function.

Hmm, you may be right about that. I certainly don’t have any alts built in Berserker; if the armor is berserker, the trinkets tend to Soldiers and the like. Plus I do have adrenal mushrooms so I haven’t had to do it without those for a while.

But I have coached several guildies and friends through it who did not have mushrooms and did not have healing food or aoe heals on them and it worked for them.

It’s worth a shot, I just don’t want people failing at it and getting frustrated thinking they’re doing it wrong. There are ways to do it and it’s worth looking up, but I don’t think just anyone can just walk in and pull it off with good timing alone.

You can do it without any assistance or special builds. I’ve completed it with multiple toons, in zerk or sinister builds. It has very tight timings, so you do need to get it just right. Usually I’d have to try at least a dozen times before I get it. And I typically have less than a second, maybe even less than 0.5s to spare. My ping is 200-300.

Once you get adrenal mushrooms it becomes laughably easy… there’s a mushroom right next to you than recharges the heal to full.

Once you get adrenal mushrooms it becomes laughably easy… there’s a mushroom right next to you than recharges the heal to full.

Right, and that’s how it’s intended to work, it’s meant to be a specific reward for unlocking adrenal mushrooms. There used to be more of those at launch, but people complained (with some justification) that it was too hard to complete a lot of these at launch, so they toned down a lot of requirements. Like the Nuhoc in VB is now a basic channel that works so long as you can reach him, but he used to require a high level Nuhoc mastery even if you could get to him. There also used to be a poison field around the bacon which made it very difficult to reach without the Itzel poison mastery.

Ohoni.6057:

Toxin Hog is no combat, but requires a highly placed mastery.

OH! You’re suppose to use the mushrooms? I did it without them because I don’t have that mastery. Oddly other heals don’t seem to work but Healing Seed dose.

OH! You’re suppose to use the mushrooms? I did it without them because I don’t have that mastery. Oddly other heals don’t seem to work but Healing Seed dose.

Yeah. Basically the intended way to do it is to stand near the mushroom, eat the bacon, heal a couple times, then immediately refresh and heal again, which gives you a huge lead on the damage, and repeat.

Ohoni.6057:

The mastery makes it easy but it is not required. All it requires is spamming the heal skill(or setting it to autouse) and a bit of math. I forget the percent the skill heals you for but you just need to start spamming the heal a bit before you have lost that amount of health.

I’ve tried it a lot, and I’m fairly sure it’s impossible without very specific circumstances. I mean, there are various class buffs that would make heal more effective, stat loadouts, alacrity, etc., but for most classes I don’t think you can just roll in there and “do it right” to pass it. I would recommend doing the combat ones before that one without Adrenal mushrooms, unless you carefully research the tools you need to do without.

I’ve done that one four times. Once was on a glass thief, once on a Rabid Rev, once on a glass Ranger and once on a glass Mesmer. The only one who had anything special going on was the ranger (I used Troll Unguent, then picked the bacon — mostly to see if it would work). The other three were all very close, but I only had to retry on the first run though on the first character. Not sure what issues you’re running into that lead to that perception, but none of my characters had anything special going on. I didn’t even use the heal on auto. I generally have good ping.

Ohoni.6057:

Once you get adrenal mushrooms it becomes laughably easy… there’s a mushroom right next to you than recharges the heal to full.

Right, and that’s how it’s intended to work, it’s meant to be a specific reward for unlocking adrenal mushrooms.

No… my point was mushrooms make is a lot easier (2-3s buffer, instead of <1s). I still completed the HP with 6 other toons before I got my adrenal mushrooms. It wasn’t easy… like I said, at least a dozen tries each, but possible even with mediocre ping.

Once was on a glass thief, once on a Rabid Rev, once on a glass Ranger and once on a glass Mesmer.

Maybe it was the glassiness that helped. I forget whether people were saying that having very high health was better or very low, I think it was low, since the damage was relative to health or something.

Ohoni.6057:

Once was on a glass thief, once on a Rabid Rev, once on a glass Ranger and once on a glass Mesmer.

Maybe it was the glassiness that helped. I forget whether people were saying that having very high health was better or very low, I think it was low, since the damage was relative to health or something.

Just did it on a Soldier Necro, ~30K health. Afaics, the damage is a percentage of health, as is the heal. Thus, not a factor.

I did the bacon on 5 characters using only autocast after the first 20% hp is lost, plus some mango pies to help a bit. Not sure if they patched it, but mango pies (HP regen food) basically ensures you always succeed that one if you time your heals well (or autocast it).

Toxic Hog is easy. I don’t have adrenal mushrooms.

The heal gives you back 25% of your health. If you use it above 75% health, you overheal and waste part of it; that’s why you fail.

Turn on the autoattack when you reach 75% health, and always win.

Failing that have a chrono give you alacrity.

zakuruchi.4086:

I did the bacon on 5 characters using only autocast after the first 20% hp is lost, plus some mango pies to help a bit. Not sure if they patched it, but mango pies (HP regen food) basically ensures you always succeed that one if you time your heals well (or autocast it).

I did it very early with nearly no masteries, just health regen food. That food made it quite easy.

Try it out and if you fail to do, then ask in map chat. Some you can’t reach first, you need masteries.